Poisonself (Seviper - Venomoth) HGSS on

[shizuoiwaki]

Name: Poisonself

POKEMON: 20
Stage 1: 4
4 : Venomoth, TM-11
Basic: 12
4 : Cleffa hgss
4 : Celebi (Prime), TM-92
4 : Seviper, CL-51
4 : Venonat, TM-81

TRAINERS: 31
Trainers: 14
3 : Super Scoop Up, BW-103
3 : PlusPower, BW-96
2 : Switch, BW-104
2 : Dual Ball, CL-78
4 : Pokemon Comunication
Supporters: 13
4 : Professor Oak's New Theory, CL-83
1 : Flower Shop Lady, UD-74
2 : Twins, TM-89
4 : Pokemon Collector, GS-97
2 : Black Belt, TM-85

ENERGY: 13
Basic Energy: 13
8 : Psychic Energy, BW-109
5 : Grass Energy, BW-105

I think it can be a fast deck
U can detect any error or anything?

 

[silver116]

RE: Poisonself

What's the strategy?

 

[shizuoiwaki]

RE: Poisonself

Seviper Do 80 damage with PC energies if he is poisoned.
Venomoth poisons ur pokemon with Pokémon power if the coin is tails...

Now i think... celebi prime is useless xD but the strategy is withouth them

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Sorry if my english is so bad D: but i learning the language

 

[Jahikoi]

4 switch?



-2 switch
-3 elms (only 1 evolution!)
-1 flower shop lady
-1 Pluspower
-1 Super Scoop Up

+4 Cleffa (or stantler or pichu; pichu could be good because you run mainly basics)
+4 Pokemon Communication (Communication is better than elms, and even moreso when you only have a few evolutions

 

[shizuoiwaki]

Bump
Uptade decklist

Poisonself deck is a fast and fun, I know, is not competitive against other fast decks as zekrom with shaymin and Pachirisu.

would be good to remove the celebi?

 

[Jahikoi]

Yes. remove celebi.


some main attackers that threaten in next format:

Donphan - You lose. You deal 10 damage per hit to him, and he will be able to stall for up to 12 turns to use switch.
Samurott - You lose. You deal 10 damage per hit to him, and he can retreat for less than donphan.
Kingdra - You lose. He can kill you with spray splash, while stalling with any random pokemon.
Blastoise - You lose. He snipes your bench for 100 per turn while you deal 30.
Serperior - You lose. He heals all the damage but 10; similar to how donphan and samurott work. Serperior also is invincible to celebi if you have two out, and it has 1 retreat.
Emboar - You can stall him out, but reshiram will revenge kill easily.
Machamp - Maybe. Machop can do quite a bit to celebi.
Zekrom - No chance.
Reshiram - No chance.
Tyranitar - He can use Darkness Howl which, although not damaging celebi, will hit the bench. If he so pleases, he can power claw straight through celebi's effect.
Mandibuzz

Out of all of those, you don't win against any of them except for emboar... except that emboar runs reshiram almost every time, and commonly switch.

The only thing that Celebi has going for it that there aren't many basics (excluding reshiram and zekrom) that can score an OHKO. You could potentially poison over and over and over, and then retreat when they send out a basic for a kill. Celebi also allows you to attach an extra energy... but without free retreat, it's not abuseable.

Perhaps you could use http://pokebeach.com/scans/unleashed/1-jirachi.jpg instead.

 

[Shadow Charizard]

I think you mabye shoud set in 3 Victini from red collection so you don't need to flip when you use Venomoth

 

[silver116]

Name: Poisonself

POKEMON: 20
Stage 1: 4
4 : Venomoth, TM-11
Basic: 12
4 : Cleffa hgss
4 : Celebi (Prime), TM-92
4 : Seviper, CL-51
4 : Venonat, TM-81

TRAINERS: 31
Trainers: 14
3 : Super Scoop Up, BW-103
3 : PlusPower, BW-96
2 : Switch, BW-104
2 : Dual Ball, CL-78
4 : Pokemon Comunication
Supporters: 13
4 : Professor Oak's New Theory, CL-83
1 : Flower Shop Lady, UD-74
2 : Twins, TM-89
4 : Pokemon Collector, GS-97
2 : Black Belt, TM-85

ENERGY: 13
Basic Energy: 13
8 : Psychic Energy, BW-109
5 : Grass Energy, BW-105

I think it can be a fast deck
U can detect any error or anything?

I would think of only one defense to serperior and emboar. If you added one ofe each solrock and lunatone you could use solrocks heal block to stop serperiors healing. Also if you run any type of grass pokemon (hence the grass energy) run metapod to stop fire weakness.

I tried this deck once but it sank for me. It might be good for you though it might not be my playing style. My style is a quick lock and KO. Now with my style I have found multiple ways to lock my opponenets bench and disrupt his/her hand. Either it be ditto TM or spiritomb TM. What I am trying to say is that look ar all your different cards and find what WILL help your deck. Celebi is not needed. In my opinon I would add stantler over pichu because pichu helps set up your opponet to. That's bad. Hope I help and good luck with a great deck!

 

[Jahikoi]

I would think of only one defense to emboar. If you run any type of grass pokemon (hence the grass energy) run metapod to stop fire weakness.

@ Silver116

Reshiram and emboar kill every pokemon in this deck in 1 shot regardless of weakness.

 

[Verche]

When I toyed around with this type of deck I also had Hypno and Muk in it. Hypno help's stall out your opponent and Muk allows you to have a second damage dealer, and he benefits if the opponent gets a status effect. I still have Sevi and Veno and it seemed to run ok, but like you said it's just a fun deck to play.

 

[shizuoiwaki]

I usually make fun decks, decks that nobody uses.
It's boring to play reshiboar against reshiboar. Once I went to a Battle Road Spring and I had a deck of Houndoom http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Houndoom_ (Legends_Awakened_57)