PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats to the winners)

RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Second place with my first entry? Not bad, not bad at all. Congratulations PMJ and Athena and Squirtle Squad and Alexander!
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn: RESULTS ARE UP!!

Luispipe8 said:
Damn you, first grade math!!! D: In my notepad I deducted 2 points, I guess I must have transcribed it wrong. :p And oh, derp, I overlooked your score when writing the standings in a paper. u.u Sorry, rev, adding you right away! :D

No problem, thanks! Interesting to see so many 48s as well as a tie for 1st :D
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn: RESULTS ARE UP!!

rev3rsor said:
Luispipe8 said:
Damn you, first grade math!!! D: In my notepad I deducted 2 points, I guess I must have transcribed it wrong. :p And oh, derp, I overlooked your score when writing the standings in a paper. u.u Sorry, rev, adding you right away! :D

No problem, thanks! Interesting to see so many 48s as well as a tie for 1st :D

I actually was pretty surprised as well! When I first noticed that it would be a tie for 48 I thought nothing weird, but now that there are 6 tied there it's hilarious. XD Although that proves that most of you have potential and that this was a very competitive round. ;) Can't wait for next month!! :D
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Bet my lucky nickel next set is Mega Pokémon.
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Scorched Feathers said:
GadgetJax said:
Bet my lucky nickel next set is Mega Pokémon.

oh god please no
Least creative contest ever.

Honestly, I don't see why everyone thinks that Megas are un-creative. I made 2 really unique ones for my Volt Overdrive thread, and they're them cream-of-the-crop.
Mega - M. Scizor-EX - HP220 - Metal
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When 1 of your Pokemon becomes a Mega Evolution Pokemon, your turn ends.

[M] [M] [C] Chrome Battalion 50+
Your Opponent reveals his or her hand. For each Trainer you find there, this attack does 20 more damage and discard the top card of your Opponent's deck.

Weakness: Fire
Resistance: Psychic
Retreat: 2
Rarity: Ultra Rare
When a Pokemon-EX has been knocked out, your opponent takes 2 prize cards.
Mega - M. Ampharos-EX - HP240 - Dragon
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When 1 of your Pokemon becomes a Mega Evolution Pokemon, your turn ends.

[L] [P] [C] Volt Overdrive 120
This attack does 30 damage to each of your Opponent's Pokemon that is the same type as your Opponent's Active Pokemon(Don't Apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.).

Weakness: Fairy
Resistance: None
Retreat: 1
Rarity: Ultra Rare
When a Pokemon-EX has been knocked out, your Opponent takes 2 prize cards.

 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

They only have one attack and have typically got overly-inflated HP. They're also difficult to make Image-based entries for, and you can't just consider one category when deciding the theme.
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Scorched Feathers said:
They only have one attack and have typically got overly-inflated HP. They're also difficult to make Image-based entries for, and you can't just consider one category when deciding the theme.

While I do agree with your opinion, I don't think it's fair for you to say that they aren't Creative, per-se.
Yes, It would make image based near-impossible.
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

GadgetJax said:
Scorched Feathers said:
They only have one attack and have typically got overly-inflated HP. They're also difficult to make Image-based entries for, and you can't just consider one category when deciding the theme.

While I do agree with your opinion, I don't think it's fair for you to say that they aren't Creative, per-se.
Yes, It would make image based near-impossible.

They're not very creative because there's so little you can do with them, especially in image-based because you only have ~4 lines of text to work with, if that. For example, I don't think your Megas would fit on an image card because of the length of their effects. Overall, I don't think Mega Pokémon will ever be a CaC theme :/
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Wow I crashed and burned this round.

Congrats to winners!
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Woot! Second place with a last minute entry! I definitely wasn't expecting to get perfect scores on Believability and Wording. I somewhat disagree with my card being overly good (how could you get a DCE and a Milotic consistently to use the attack with 4 Swalot in play? And the attack is unreliable, because your opponent can easily play around it with low Energy attackers or Pokemon that discard their own Energy. And getting 4 Swalot is nearly impossible, what with their somewhat low HP and having so much Energy on them), considering some of the entries that got a perfect Believability score, but I'll try not to be anymore salty than I already am. :p

Congrats to PMJ, Athena, Squirtle Squad, Alex, and everyone else for their awesome entries! :D Hopefully I'll have more time to make a better entry next month, and make my entry look a little more presentable as well.
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Machamp The Champion said:
Woot! Second place with a last minute entry! I definitely wasn't expecting to get perfect scores on Believability and Wording. I somewhat disagree with my card being overly good (how could you get a DCE and a Milotic consistently to use the attack with 4 Swalot in play? And the attack is unreliable, because your opponent can easily play around it with low Energy attackers or Pokemon that discard their own Energy. And getting 4 Swalot is nearly impossible, what with their somewhat low HP and having so much Energy on them), considering some of the entries that got a perfect Believability score, but I'll try not to be anymore salty than I already am. :p

Congrats to PMJ, Athena, Squirtle Squad, Alex, and everyone else for their awesome entries! :D Hopefully I'll have more time to make a better entry next month, and make my entry look a little more presentable as well.

A Milotic is only necessary for the first Swalot, because with one's attack you can power up the next one. And Level Ball, Ultra Ball, Evosoda and Fan Club can all make the 4 Swalot happen. It's not obnoxiously OP, though, which is why I only took 2 points. ;)
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Okay, so Mega Evolution is ruled out for next month. Maybe we could do something along the lines of these:
-Sinnoh
-One Specific Type (Lightning, Dragon, Water, etc.)
-Basic's
-Trainer Cards (Clemont as a Supporter, anyone?)
-An old concept that is no longer used(Level X's, Primes, Delta Species, Gym Leader's Pokemon, etc.)

Oh, one side note... my Avatar? Yeah, I made that. That's how I envision myself as a Pokemon Trainer..
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn: RESULTS ARE UP!!

Excellent, was waiting the results to come out! :D
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You said text is your weak point? Oh no, my friend, those are some pretty original effects! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a card (be it official or fake) which utilizes rarity.

I try to cover up my grammatical blunders with weird effects and mechanics, though that usually means that I have an even harder time of getting the wording right. :p
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The “Evolves from…” text should be Frutiger LT Std Bold Italic. Additionally, the HP width looks too thin – is it Futura Std at 88%? I’m not taking points off for it, as it’s hard to tell, so I’m just letting you know for future reference! The stats bar text looks a little off, too – slightly too wide, perhaps? What font did you use? There should be a larger space between each part (the number, species, height, and weight)

I used this for the font and placement reference, so I used Futura LT Medium for the 'Evolves from...' text (many thanks to aschefield for providing this and the Dark blank, btw). I actually do not have any font from the Frutiger family!

Yes the HP is too thin, I noticed only after I submitted my entry though (as well as other errors :p). I think it was at 86% perhaps? Guess 88% is the correct width - duly noted!

For the stats bar text I did not have Gill Sans, so I tried to match the font with Gill Sans Std by varying the width and spacing. I couldn't quite nail that spacing unfortunately. Well, more tinkering with that for next month (unless of course, I find Gill Sans instead).
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As expected, so many silly mistakes (170.06 lbs whoops!). That said, the retreat cost capitalisation and contracted english are things I really ought to remember, I've gotten rusty.

You worded that Ability better than I ever could!

The attack power was originally 10+70, but I up-scaled it a bit upon seeing the power level of the current Megas and EXs. I really considered bumping up its RC by 1 so that the energy discard has more of an impact (though that would deviate from the old cacturne cards, from what I recall they all have 1 RC cost).

Perhaps I should have opted for 20+70? Or 30+60? Oh well

I estimated I would get 40/41 points, so I pretty much agree with the score haha
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'twas a blast getting back into faking again, and actually using official set blanks instead of my weird customs. First time adding fonts to the card in Illustrator though, a little finicky for someone used to Photoshop like me :p

Congrats on those that placed, and everyone else too - strong entries all around. Clearly I have to bring it up a notch for next month. I promise the next illustration will be better, too!
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn: RESULTS ARE UP!!

Thanks to everyone who participated this month -- all of you did fantastic work! Congrats to PMJ and Athena, SquirtleSquad, and AlexanderTheAwesome on jobs well done.

I look forward to seeing what each one of you comes up with next month!


Huderon of Canossa said:
Excellent, was waiting the results to come out! :D
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You said text is your weak point? Oh no, my friend, those are some pretty original effects! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a card (be it official or fake) which utilizes rarity.

I try to cover up my grammatical blunders with weird effects and mechanics, though that usually means that I have an even harder time of getting the wording right. :p
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The “Evolves from…” text should be Frutiger LT Std Bold Italic. Additionally, the HP width looks too thin – is it Futura Std at 88%? I’m not taking points off for it, as it’s hard to tell, so I’m just letting you know for future reference! The stats bar text looks a little off, too – slightly too wide, perhaps? What font did you use? There should be a larger space between each part (the number, species, height, and weight)

I used this for the font and placement reference, so I used Futura LT Medium for the 'Evolves from...' text (many thanks to aschefield for providing this and the Dark blank, btw). I actually do not have any font from the Frutiger family!

Yes the HP is too thin, I noticed only after I submitted my entry though (as well as other errors :p). I think it was at 86% perhaps? Guess 88% is the correct width - duly noted!

For the stats bar text I did not have Gill Sans, so I tried to match the font with Gill Sans Std by varying the width and spacing. I couldn't quite nail that spacing unfortunately. Well, more tinkering with that for next month (unless of course, I find Gill Sans instead).
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As expected, so many silly mistakes (170.06 lbs whoops!). That said, the retreat cost capitalisation and contracted english are things I really ought to remember, I've gotten rusty.

You worded that Ability better than I ever could!

The attack power was originally 10+70, but I up-scaled it a bit upon seeing the power level of the current Megas and EXs. I really considered bumping up its RC by 1 so that the energy discard has more of an impact (though that would deviate from the old cacturne cards, from what I recall they all have 1 RC cost).

Perhaps I should have opted for 20+70? Or 30+60? Oh well

I estimated I would get 40/41 points, so I pretty much agree with the score haha
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'twas a blast getting back into faking again, and actually using official set blanks instead of my weird customs. First time adding fonts to the card in Illustrator though, a little finicky for someone used to Photoshop like me :p

Congrats on those that placed, and everyone else too - strong entries all around. Clearly I have to bring it up a notch for next month. I promise the next illustration will be better, too!
For the "Evolves from..." text, I think it's one of those things that matters less and less the smaller the blank, but I made my own font guide based on larger blanks...
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After checking numerous preprint scans, the font is indeed Frutiger. I'll see if I can find a way to send it over to you.

I'm glad you agree with the score -- it assures me I'm judging fairly! I can't wait to see what you come up with next month!
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Luispipe8 said:
Machamp The Champion said:
Woot! Second place with a last minute entry! I definitely wasn't expecting to get perfect scores on Believability and Wording. I somewhat disagree with my card being overly good (how could you get a DCE and a Milotic consistently to use the attack with 4 Swalot in play? And the attack is unreliable, because your opponent can easily play around it with low Energy attackers or Pokemon that discard their own Energy. And getting 4 Swalot is nearly impossible, what with their somewhat low HP and having so much Energy on them), considering some of the entries that got a perfect Believability score, but I'll try not to be anymore salty than I already am. :p

Congrats to PMJ, Athena, Squirtle Squad, Alex, and everyone else for their awesome entries! :D Hopefully I'll have more time to make a better entry next month, and make my entry look a little more presentable as well.

A Milotic is only necessary for the first Swalot, because with one's attack you can power up the next one. And Level Ball, Ultra Ball, Evosoda and Fan Club can all make the 4 Swalot happen. It's not obnoxiously OP, though, which is why I only took 2 points. ;)

As I said, the attack can easily be played around by using 1-2 Energy attackers against it, or using Pokemon that discard Energy/move Energy away (Black Kyurem/Yveltal EX). You also need to get 3 Energy in the discard with Milotic. Getting 4 of any Stage 1 in play is nearly impossible early game, and even harder late game because they will be continuously knocked out. After one gets knocked out, it's physically impossible to get 4 in play the next turn since there would be no Gulpin in play to get your fourth Swalot (unless you use Ditto, which probably won't fit in the deck, and you would need to hit ridiculous draws, like Super Rod and 2 searching cards, and all your searching cards would've been burned early on to achieve the 4 Swalot in play, and definitely can't be done consistently). With 120HP, and having a butt-load of Energy on it, it's incredibly easy to Lysandre/Red Signal it out and KO it, then you're stuck without your attacker in play. I'm sure there are tons of Psychic types in the format that work better with Swalot then itself (Darmanitan and Mew would both be hilarious to use with this card).

I'm not trying to be disrespectful here, or say that I deserve a better score or anything like that, I'm just trying to let you know the flaws with this card--like I would if we were talking about a card that actually existed--which may help your judging and/or real life playing skill in the future.
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Scorched Feathers said:
GadgetJax said:
While I do agree with your opinion, I don't think it's fair for you to say that they aren't Creative, per-se.
Yes, It would make image based near-impossible.

They're not very creative because there's so little you can do with them, especially in image-based because you only have ~4 lines of text to work with, if that. For example, I don't think your Megas would fit on an image card because of the length of their effects. Overall, I don't think Mega Pokémon will ever be a CaC theme :/

Wouldn't that make them bad for official text-based instead?

People don't like the official Mega Pokemon cards because it doesn't give much room for text - that just makes the text much more valuable to me. Rehashed official attacks become easy to see, and unique attacks can shine. Also, "Huderon of Canossa"'s entry this month had (by official TCG standards) an overload of text but it did not hurt the score. The same can happen to Mega Pokemon cards.

And again to support the idea of Mega Pokemon in image-based: Card artwork can look amazing - that's kinda the whole reason I do image-based instead of text-based. A creative artwork of Mega Pokemon that ties well with its card can make the card itself look a little more creative. And most Mega Pokemon look awesome - the essence of a Mega Pokemon comes across far better through image than text.

Anyway, who says we have to stick to official card blanks? If you don't like the layout of the official Mega Pokemon cards, make your own blank! Whenever someone does a new blank for CaC, they get a boost in their Creativity/Originality points!
(And if the next theme was to make new blanks for Mega Pokemon [even if just for the image-based entrants] that would be totally amazing!)
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Machamp The Champion said:
As I said, the attack can easily be played around by using 1-2 Energy attackers against it, or using Pokemon that discard Energy/move Energy away (Black Kyurem/Yveltal EX). You also need to get 3 Energy in the discard with Milotic. Getting 4 of any Stage 1 in play is nearly impossible early game, and even harder late game because they will be continuously knocked out. After one gets knocked out, it's physically impossible to get 4 in play the next turn since there would be no Gulpin in play to get your fourth Swalot (unless you use Ditto, which probably won't fit in the deck, and you would need to hit ridiculous draws, like Super Rod and 2 searching cards, and all your searching cards would've been burned early on to achieve the 4 Swalot in play, and definitely can't be done consistently). With 120HP, and having a butt-load of Energy on it, it's incredibly easy to Lysandre/Red Signal it out and KO it, then you're stuck without your attacker in play. I'm sure there are tons of Psychic types in the format that work better with Swalot then itself (Darmanitan and Mew would both be hilarious to use with this card).

I'm not trying to be disrespectful here, or say that I deserve a better score or anything like that, I'm just trying to let you know the flaws with this card--like I would if we were talking about a card that actually existed--which may help your judging and/or real life playing skill in the future.

I know you don't, don't worry, pal. ;) And I actually agree with all of that, which is why I took only 2 points. It can be abused up to some point, but it's not broken. If you noticed, I've docked more points in Balance this month, so it's not like your card is as broken as a M-Yveltal with "Maleficent Ball" would be (lol), I like the card, actually.
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

Fingers Crossed for Legendaries next month!
 
RE: PokéBeach Create-A-Card: June 2014 - Hoenn (Congrats PMJ+Athena, SquirtleSquad & ATA)

GadgetJax said:
Fingers Crossed for Legendaries next month!

IA hasn't even told me the Theme for next month this time, so I'm as expectant as you. :p I do agree that Legendaries might actually be cool. n.n
 
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