PokeBeach Podcast: New Set “Inferno X” Coming, Restocks of “Prismatic Evolutions” Arriving!
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Restocks usually mean price drops so I hope prices are about to plummet and the set be more accessible. Scalping/investing a children's card game is actually very sad.
torchic! enjoy this weeks episode! honestly I can see the wigglytuff resemblance! so far nothing in team rocket has excited me, I think most the art looks mid and the pokemon as well, hoping for something more that either looks better or is better competitively. Keep up the great work and have a good week!
Restocks, while they make prices drop, don't do it in the way you think it would. It will create a short decrease that'll maybe make things a bit more stable, but it won't create the Part C graph we all dream of. Not to be that person, but there is a line between scalping and investing. When we buy stuff for our collection, we are theoretically "investing" to sell (if applicable) at a later date. It's a very small line, but a line nontheless.
Oh I agree, I'm specifically talking about people buying cases at a time to resell or hold on to. Buying for the thrill of opening packs is why i do it, personally. And I actually play.
Welcome new guy to the hobby.
I was not talking about Prismatic. We are talking about Mega Pokemon here.
Evolutions a older set with Mega Charizard in it.
Restocks means you don't really now what your talking about but you have to respond like you know everything isnt it?
Chill out bro, he didn't even do anything matter of factly, just a simple mistake. Calm down.
Your comment barely made sense so I'm going to try and respond as though it does and to what I think you were trying to say. From what I've gathered, you think I'm talking about prismatic and I never said a set name, so I was speaking in general. But you putting words into my mouth to make an irrelevant point and argument is actually hilarious.
To reiterate, people who buy cases of product for the sake of scalping/investing can eat a bag of Slowpoke tail because not only are the greedy, they are preventing people who don't/can't do that from enjoying the hobby as well. Though I don't there isn't anything wrong with investing in it and scalping can only happen if there is no product available at MSRP, it can all be excused if people didn't go overboard with it, imo. We shouldn't have to know what day a retailer restocks their product, let alone camp out the before they open just for a chance to get anything. It's ridiculous.
I think at some point we need to sit back and realize that the "childrens card game" thing just isn't the whole story anymore. Pokemon is a franchise at a generational level, theres a reason why we have a Juniors/Seniors/Masters split for competitive play. Pokemon isn't just for kids, its for everybody. The collectors market exists and we need to acknowledge the fact that there are people who do unironically invest in pokemon, and make full livings buying and selling these cards. There is a problem with scalping for sure, but I feel like a lot of people keep ignoring every other problem that we're currently facing. Scalping has been in the pokemon scene from day one, but its being exasperated by the fact that pokemon inc isnt printing nearly enough product to meet demand as is. Even if every scalper disappeared, this problem would still exist, and I feel like not enough people are taking that fact seriously.
Finally someone who understands! People don't understand that everything, from scalpers to the average collector, all contribute equally to a Pokemon ecosystem. If that balance is disrupted, it causes massive changes everywhere (Just like a ecosystem!) Now this isn't defending scalpers doing what they're doing, it's just saying that in the ideal ecosystem, everything would be in moderation. Also Pokemon printing enough product isn't the only source of the problem, and that's what most people don't understand. Multiple factors are involved in this, and printing a lot isn't the perfect solution some may hope.
All I know is children aren't buying up all the stock retailer puts on the shelf, following/placing trackers on the trucks of employees with product, fighting in Costco and reselling at ridiculous prices. The problem is greedy adults that have lost sight of the fact that it's SUPPOSE a children's card game. I don't mind people buying for collecting and investing. My issue lies with the lack of empathy for the hobby towards others when they're buying up and fighting over all the product. If adults are the main culprits in then they should have the awareness to go "I'll just buy a few" or "Let's me NOT get physically violent over cardboard". You will never convince me that this stuff is okay. And just because adults have come in a nd ruined it, doesn't mean it's not meant to be a card came for kids and such. Or at the very least readily available for everyone to enjoy.
I agree that The Pokemon company have numerous ways to fix this but we as the consumer should have enough common sense to adjust when corporate greed is in effect.
Alright theres a few things I would like to break down here
I'll also say I strongly disagree with the violence as well. There is no reason why you should be willing to fistfight over any sort of product, but the fact that they are should speak volumes on the product itself.
Well obviously kids aren't the main buyers yeah, nobody here is claiming that they're the primary issue, but i would like to point out that kids absolutely do contribute to the demand problem (even if its via their parents wallets instead of their own). I would also like to point out the fact that people absolutely have free will and can choose to not pay the current prices, but they do, and the fact that some people are willing to buy at these high price points contributes just as much as the people selling at those price points. This problem of demand is exasperated by scalping, but I'd argue that Pokemons popularity contributes significantly to the desire to scalp in the first place, let alone the rampant supply issues. Speaking of supply...
You might have recently seen, but we had a situation with destined rivals on the pokemon center website where over two million people were in a virtual queue to try and pre-order the set months ahead of schedule. And this was just people who were /aware/ of the preorders. Theres a level of demand in the pokemon TCG thats completely unprecedented, and the printers are simply not printing enough. As a vendor myself, allocations have been abysmal. I put in an order to one of my distributors for several cases of PrisEvo ETBs, and what I recieved in allocation was, I kid you not, /three individual ETBs/. Like i said before, we could erase every single scalper from existence and you could not convince me that any pokemon product would be readily available to anyone in this climate.
I'll also say I strongly disagree with the violence as well. There is no reason why you should be willing to fistfight over any sort of product, but the fact that they are should speak volumes on the product itself.
There is no common sense to be had about this situation. Frankly, Pokemon cards are money, and TPCi is the federal reserve. I cannot blame TPCi for not printing enough, but it honestly feels like they're not even trying to print enough. We had what, three seperate notices from TPCi that they were going to print more, and we have yet to feel the effects of any of them. Consumers rarely adjust, adjustments require restraint where most people have none. Most of the resolution of this problem needs to come from the retailer, distributor and production level, which is the most difficult part to change.
Restocks are a crock as well, simply because scalpers snag them up before us normal folks can get some. Prismatic prices won't drop because scalpers gonna catch them all
Has no one seen my message lol