Pokemon of the Week #11 - Tornadus-T

Tornadus-T has quickly developed into being my favourite pokemon in the current OU metagame.
Personally, I am running the LO set consisting of Hurricane/Superpower/HP Ice/U-Turn

I was just wandering.. would it be a good idea to try a regenerator core?
So this would include Amoonguss/Tornadus-T/Slowbro
I think it could work quite nicely
 
Chillarmy said:
I run Expert belt over Life Orb to bluff the Specs and nail Blissey/Tyranitar with Superpower.
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How much damage does that roughly do to a Chansey or Blissey?
My team has been struggling with them quite a bit :l
 
Expert Belt isn't a good item for Tornadus. You just lose more to Chancey, Jirachi, Rotom-W, Metagross, Skarmory, and pick up a new list of counters like Gastrodon (miss out on the 2HKO now). You also give stuff like Thundurus and Jolteon easier switchins. Tornadus just lacks the coverage (in terms of SE moves) to make use of Expert Belt and it needs all the power it can get. You're not even catching anything off-guard like EBelt Landorus or Thundurus.
 
What about running Hidden Power Ground on Tornadus-T? Jirachi and Heatran are two really common switchins to Tornadus, and while Specs HP Ground is a 3HKO on Specially Defensive Jirachi, it still does enough to many it weary of absorbing Hurricanes later.
 
ComfortEagle said:
Expert Belt isn't a good item for Tornadus. You just lose more to Chancey, Jirachi, Rotom-W, Metagross, Skarmory, and pick up a new list of counters like Gastrodon (miss out on the 2HKO now). You also give stuff like Thundurus and Jolteon easier switchins. Tornadus just lacks the coverage (in terms of SE moves) to make use of Expert Belt and it needs all the power it can get. You're not even catching anything off-guard like EBelt Landorus or Thundurus.
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Umm, I beg to differ. Tyranitar and Blissey are 2 very common switch-ins to Tornadus, and they both get nailed by a Superpower when they're expecting a Choice set.
 
Chillarmy said:
Umm, I beg to differ. Tyranitar and Blissey are 2 very common switch-ins to Tornadus, and they both get nailed by a Superpower when they're expecting a Choice set.
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NO. NO. NO. If people are switching a Tyranitar in on Tornadus then slap them. The risk of Focus Blast and U-Turn is too great. Even if Hurricane only does 20% to MixTar, it can't do much to Tornadus. Tornadus doesn't even mind Pursuit because of Regenerator (only the CB ones will hurt). The only reason I would ever switchin Tyranitar in on Tornadus is if that's all I have left to take the Hurricanes, an unlikely situation since Heatran, Rotom-W, and Jirachi are all great in sand.

What does Expert Belt have over Life Orb? With Life Orb you scare away all of these things you're trying to lure in, actually beat Chansey, fare a better chance against Jirachi and Rotom, and get the boost on ALL YOUR MOVES. Okay, so you lured in and beat Tyranitar and Blissey. Now what? You're not going to be spamming those late-game Hurricanes as well as LO or Specs. You still lose to Jirachi and Rotom-W, only harder now. You pick up a ton of new counters who can take your Hurricanes. It's just not worth it.

Just to give you an idea of the power drop, CB Scizor takes 63.3% - 74.6% from Expert Belt Hurricane and 82.2% - 97.1% from LO. LO has a high chance to OHKO after SR whereas EBelt will never OHKO after SR. Won't even OHKO after two rounds of SR which is a shame.
 
Tornadus - T is one of those Pokemon that will always be an annoyance to a team, no matter what type. Tornadus originally had a few problems, SR would constantly hammer it, Starmie could preform a solid check to it, and other fast stuff could also smash it. Tornadus - T is now one of the fastest sweepers in OU. Regeneration helps it with Stealth Rock, although not eliminated it, it does stop it from taking that damage over and over again with no direct healing. It is an absolute terror to offensive teams, as nothing can out speed it bar a scarfer. There really is no safe switch in besides Jirachi on an offensive team ( Rotom-W too but it takes quite a bit from Focus Blast and getting slammed by Hurricane ). Stall can handle it more safely, but it's immunity to most hazards and Regeneration helping it in healing means it is hard to gain residual damage.

tornadus t will probably stay a top tier pokemon for a long time, but it will not be banned. it is still frail enough that it cannot safely switch into almost any offensive threat on a neutral move.
 
PDC said:
as nothing can out speed it bar a scarfer.
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I do really like this Pokemon both aesthetically and competitively, and it was a great candidate for Pokemon of the Week. I think the biggest improvements from the regular forme was gaining Regenerator and getting a Base Speed stat boost. With 121 Speed, Jolteon is really one of the only Pokemon that can out speed other than Choiced users, and Regenerator is great to relieve damage from LO and Stealth Rock. I do think the Choice Specs set is very good, although the LO set is just as reliable. I just enjoy the extra SpA boost from the Specs, really.

However, I eventually think the hype for this thing will die down, considering it functions well on Rain teams and well....it doesn't really fit very well anywhere else. SR weakness is still a problem, even with Regenerator, and it is rather frail and priority-weak. Despite this, Tornadus-T will still be on the top of the usage board for a little while. I'm glad this Pokemon was made, because it has a nice balance between decent offensive stats and sub-par defensive stats.
 
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