Pokemon of the Week: #12 - Amoonguss

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Another Cinderella story of Gen.5 is Amoonguss. Previously a nobody earlier in the generation, the release of Regeneration propelled it from zero to hero. With an awesome defensive typing (resists the bulk of rain and sand offense), Amoonguss one of the most annoying pivots to exist. Access to the rare Spore further enhances this. It may have lackluster offenses, but Clear Smog makes it impossible to set up on Amoonguss without a Substitute. Many people say that Amoonguss couldn't have been revived at a better time, as it is the perfect counter to the new and popular Keldeo and Breloom.

How have you guys been using Amoonguss? What are good teammates for it? What are some Amoonguss counters?

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Keldeo
Thundurus-T
Hydreigon
Kyurem
Meloetta
Wobbuffet
 
OH MY GOD

Amoonguss is fantastic, that is a fact. If you need something to counter bulky waters, Thunderus-T, Keldeo, or grass types in general. I've been using Amoonguss on my rain stall team as of recent, and it just fits so well. Normally Rain Stall would have huge trouble with these newly introduced threats, but Amoonguss can just support the team so well.
 
Amooguss in Rain Stall is absolutely amazing ! It's a playstyle I have grown attached too and will never leave. It's so much fun to troll thundurus-t and friends. It's just a great cinderella story and I am happy he is usable.

- R-C
 
What spread are you using on Amoonguss? I've always found mine getting 2HKOed by Thundurus-T's HP Ice.

Also, I always run 28 Special Attack EVs to beat SubCMKeldeo. Giga Drain will break +2 Keldeo's Subs with just 28 EVs.
 
I've never used Amoongus or ever thought of it. I like its cry though it's funny...and I'll start spamming it...

Bippa said:
What spread are you using on Amoonguss? I've always found mine getting 2HKOed by Thundurus-T's HP Ice.

Also, I always run 28 Special Attack EVs to beat SubCMKeldeo. Giga Drain will break +2 Keldeo's Subs with just 28 EVs.
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I would say 252 hp, then split EVs between defences, or make it more physically/specially defensive by putting more EVs in one of those stats. Then calm/bold nature.
 
Amoonguss w/ Calm ( - Atk , + Sp.D )
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Sp.D


iirc it doesn't get 2 Shotted by Thunder-T.

- R-C
 
Vs Scarf it gets 3HKO'd at worst provided max damage rolls and SR. Min damage rolls are around a 4HKO.

31.9% - 38%

LO is a bit more nasty and has a chance to 2HKO after SR.

41.7% - 49.1%
 
I don't understand Amoonguss. It looks absolutely terrible on paper. I mean face it, 114/70/80 Defenses aren't all that great. Its special attack is decent, but after you're done putting EVs into HP and Special Defense, there's none left to make it hit hard. Regenerator and Spore are cool niches in OU play, though, and it has great defensive typing. I'm going to equate Amoonguss to Gastrodon in the transition over from DPP to BW. It looks terribad on paper, but once you actually use it, I guess it does pretty good.
 
114/70/80 is amazing. You're really downplaying how much bulk that is.
 
I honestly don't see how he is so amazing. I've tried using him on a lot of teams, and he just doesn't seem to fit in. People have explained that he's used for a Keldeo counter, but I never see them on PO, or as a Drizzle counter, but I just don't understand it. Like at all.
 
First off, I love the banner. Thanks safariblade!

Amoonguss is a great anti-meta Pokemon, and I think Bippa's description of it going from zero to hero is spot-on, although Amoonguss was great in NU before it got Regenerator. It is very bulky and has just enough SpA to put dents in Keldeo and the like. Stun Spore is actually a good move for Amoonguss, I've been finding, as it opens up room for slower sweepers to take the win. Amoonguss is so good, it seems, that PDC has gone crazy and has asked everyone to use it.

I think one of the most reliable counters to the mushroom is Tornadus-T, because unfortunately, Hurricane in rain hits so hard, while Amoonguss has a tough time hitting back, unless it packs HP Ice. I'm not sure how much Hurricane does to it, but I'm guessing it's a guaranteed 2HKO w/ SR or something. This is just a guess, though. However, Amoonguss usually has team support to get rid of any threat that could take it out, so then Amoonguss gets its chance to shine.

Also, can anyone explain the role Amoonguss plays in Rain stall?
 
this pokemon is horrible.

Contribute to the discussion and back up your opinion with reasoning

~ [mod]R-C[/mod]
 
I can't exactly say how good Amoonguss is because I've never used it/played against it, but I can say that it looks like Substitute or Guts Pokemon will be on the rise (my Falcon Pawnch team shouldn't have too much of a problem d: ) to counter this threat.
 
If you want to break Keldeo's Subs while also maxing out your defensive investments, Amoonguss can learn Seed Bomb, which, even with no investment, will break all of Keldeo's Subs.

Amoonguss is a defensive core and glue sort, almost like a Tangrowth meets Toxic Orb Breloom. Use with Slowbro and possibly Heatran, and you have a very solid core there. Two or three statuses, SR, spinblock (If Jellicent over Slowbro), FWG, instant recovery on 2 of 3, etc. You will see Amoonguss move up to OU guaranteed.

~AiH
 
I'm really liking this guy when it comes to taking down rain teams. Unless Starmie packs Psyshock, it has no way of getting around SpD Amoonguss. It also walls Keldeo to heck and back, while also doing fairly well against Thundurus-T. The only new threats it can't handle are Tornadus and some Meloetta.
 
I think we can all agree that this Pokemon went generally unnoticed for a very long time, and it's surprising to see just how popular it's become, being a huge defensive threat in BW2, especially with all of the Thundurus-T rain teams rampaging around.
 
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