Political Views and Opinions Thread
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A major third party could serve as a buffer between the Republicans and Democrats which, IMO, only are causing further rift within American politics and, ultimately, within America itself. Libertarians are similar to this but, correct me if I am wrong, they are for 0% of government interfering with their rights. That was my general take on them.
I think a lot of Americans are angry, frustrated, and fed up with the in-fitting and bickering that goes on between the Right and the Left. This is what made me completely abandon any faith for a compromise. To me, politics seems like a never-ending spiral of hatred, corruption, and finger-pointing.
Yeah, I am not planning any current Egypt trips. Maybe in a year or so when everything quiets down. I am going to go to Korea and Taiwan instead.
I think a lot of Americans are angry, frustrated, and fed up with the in-fitting and bickering that goes on between the Right and the Left. This is what made me completely abandon any faith for a compromise. To me, politics seems like a never-ending spiral of hatred, corruption, and finger-pointing.
Yeah, I am not planning any current Egypt trips. Maybe in a year or so when everything quiets down. I am going to go to Korea and Taiwan instead.
We also need Energy Reform as well If America is going to stop relying on foreign oil from OPEC. Face it folks the age of the Electric Car is upon us however there's only one slight problem, Oil Companies especially BP are trying to undermine this new advancement in innovation in order to stay in business. Other countries such as China and Iran are beating us to the punch with their use of Natural Gas to curb the high price of fuel, yet we fuel our tanks in which unfortunately some of that money is going to the Taliban.
Education Reform is important as well too, as for the Crisis regarding Egypt yes Mubarak needs to step down however there's a few problems I see with this. One is that If he is out of commission then there would be no one to run the Egyptian Government thus anarchy and social disorder would ensue the country, two the Muslim Brotherhood might seize this oppurtunity to grab hold of the country but that from what I hear is unlikely to happen, three the guy that Mubarak appointed as Vice President would take over the country If Mubarak leaves and he's no better than the previous president either.
The problem with Mubarak is that he's repeating what Julius Caesar did back in Ancient Rome that led to his assassination, he didn't share power with his country. How do you expect to be a peaceful country with democracy and liberty when you keep power to yourself? That's not how a country should be run.
Welcome to America, home of the bickering and the land of the accused. Then again the U.S. really needs to get their heads out of their butts, work together to solve the issues at hand, and like Obama mentioned in his last State of the Union, "Win the Future"! Sure it's a bit blatant but we aren't going to win the future If we only talk the talk we gotta actually do something about it instead of just sitting around doing nothing.
Democrats and Republicans seem to be like 2 sides of one coin, they never seem to grasp the same interests of what the majority of people want to better the future. Why do you think we have Independents and Libertarians? I guess in some cases the events of 9/11 divided our country but we shouldn't let that divide us, that event helped remind America the core values of the nation itself and that we need to stand up for our nation which we did when we provided democracy in Iraq.
Education Reform is important as well too, as for the Crisis regarding Egypt yes Mubarak needs to step down however there's a few problems I see with this. One is that If he is out of commission then there would be no one to run the Egyptian Government thus anarchy and social disorder would ensue the country, two the Muslim Brotherhood might seize this oppurtunity to grab hold of the country but that from what I hear is unlikely to happen, three the guy that Mubarak appointed as Vice President would take over the country If Mubarak leaves and he's no better than the previous president either.
The problem with Mubarak is that he's repeating what Julius Caesar did back in Ancient Rome that led to his assassination, he didn't share power with his country. How do you expect to be a peaceful country with democracy and liberty when you keep power to yourself? That's not how a country should be run.
LostVoice said:
Welcome to America, home of the bickering and the land of the accused. Then again the U.S. really needs to get their heads out of their butts, work together to solve the issues at hand, and like Obama mentioned in his last State of the Union, "Win the Future"! Sure it's a bit blatant but we aren't going to win the future If we only talk the talk we gotta actually do something about it instead of just sitting around doing nothing.
Democrats and Republicans seem to be like 2 sides of one coin, they never seem to grasp the same interests of what the majority of people want to better the future. Why do you think we have Independents and Libertarians? I guess in some cases the events of 9/11 divided our country but we shouldn't let that divide us, that event helped remind America the core values of the nation itself and that we need to stand up for our nation which we did when we provided democracy in Iraq.
1) Less caps please.
2) By flaming in the rules, PB means flaming another member, like:
^That is flaming. Shadow Arceus was talking about flaming a political figure. He even said 'note, not forums members'. From what I can tell, we're all flaming Hosni Mubarak.
Thank you.
To anyone who wonders why media is so on the Egypt crisis, let me tell you:
BIG US Ally, possible Muslim Brotherhood influence, other countries might do the same thing, and big control on the region. Loosing relations with Egypt will greatly effect America.
Yeah, yesterday CNN was interviewing some radical Islamist who wanted Egypt to become a Muslim state like Iran. That's what we don't want. I don't know why they give a stage (TV) to these guys.
Alas, partisanship is even more crippling than the worst autocrat. People throw around terms like "Democrat," "Republican," and "<insert your favorite political party here>" like its nothing – until everyone can come to grips that we're all just people, the world will remain more or less the same place. But try telling that to the rich imbeciles who run it… (except Anthony Weiner, politics needs people like this guyCard Slinger J said:
). That's what disappoints me about the American government, and that's what disappoints me about the Egyptian government. Mubarak was a common man, he was once in the place that his "fellow countrymen" are now rioting in the streets – even by the time he landed himself a job as an Air Force commander he was a rags-to-riches dream, and yet once Sadat gave him even the slightest taste of power, he left all those people behind and came back to spit on everyone. It's such a classic story, yet so enraging. Whatever kind of government they end up establishing in Egypt, I can only hope it's one that replaces human nature with common sense, whatever those two things are at this point.And America's no better, the only difference is that instead of teargas and bullets, we're firing complaints and petty accusations at each other. Isn't it incredibly ironic that America makes the very teargas the Egyptians harass each other with! Boy oh boy, it's a turbulent world out there…
I don't mean to rep my stateDarkvoid57 said:
, but at least in terms of academic rigor New York's got one of the best systems in the country, along with quite a bit of the Northeast (everything else is pretty questionable though…). If you want to see abominable education go, down to Louisiana and Mississippi, where there's areas comparable to the third world in more than just education. There's also D.C., which is notorious for its educational controversies. School for some gives people a successful future, school for others just maybe keeps them off the streets – the latter category is an unfortunately large percentage, though it involves a lot more than just the state system set in place (individual schools, neighborhoods, unfortunately race/affluence factors, etc.). The problem's not about New York education or Arizona education, it's about American education, which to be blunt, sucks miserably. Europe in particular is miles ahead in that sector, as their approach to school is more practical, whereas the American system is more quixotism than anything. Of course it's up to individual debate whether or not you want an educated society of well-rounded people (i.e. United States), or one where each individual excels in a specific area to form aggregate well-roundedness (i.e. most of Europe, I'm not too sure about Britain and a few others), but neither educational philosophy could ever be better than the other if the quality of the education itself is simply nonexistent, which is largely the case in a majority of American systems (or at least a popular belief).
Hoorah, a Politics thread. Not that I'm some political activist, but I have some beliefs on how and how not a country should be run. That's all. Oh, and uh, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Egypt's President is stepping down. From what I've seen on the news, anyways.
And more importantly, he has announced he won't be running for reelection in September. Protesters are still upset because they want him to step down earlier, but now it's getting violent with government supporters entering the fray.
ShadowLugia said:
It's great news that Mubarak is stepping down but what about the guy he appointed as Vice President? Does that mean he's going to take over Egypt and the country itself is back to square one now? o_0
What can America do to prevent Egypt from becoming a Muslim State like Iran is what I'd like to know...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110202/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_egypt
Well, America has a huge influence over Egypt because we provide them large amounts of aid and arenvital to their economy. Still, with a new leader itncould all change because a main point of our alliance with Egypt was to have a stable government that supported America in the Middle East area. If they decide to join with Iran, etc, then we could pull out all our money. Mubarak, despite being horrible in the humanitarian aspect, has been one of America's best partners against terrorism which the new leader may not support.
Well with all the political turmoil and the struggle of power betweein Republicans and Democrats. The American people are clearly upset with the way both parties are running this country, if there ever was a time for a 3rd party to rise up, the time is obviously now.
Also it'd be nice just for once if politics wasn't so corrupt, former governer of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura won his way into office for telling the truth. Then he lost support of the people when he continued telling the truth. Somehow it feels like we all want the truth, but when its what we don't want to hear, we easily turn against those people that tell us it. Sad to see really.
Also it'd be nice just for once if politics wasn't so corrupt, former governer of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura won his way into office for telling the truth. Then he lost support of the people when he continued telling the truth. Somehow it feels like we all want the truth, but when its what we don't want to hear, we easily turn against those people that tell us it. Sad to see really.
@ shadow, ron paul. he is straight up outspoken and doesn't take BS. have you seen his talk about the wikileaks thing that he said on C-Span? he questioned why we were pushing to punish an Austrailian for information he did not steal and why we were trying to make what he did illegal to be able to prosecute him (as technically what he did was not illegal) and why we're not looking onto how a private (his source) was able to obtain all this information.
@darkvoid, any democrat would have won that election unless they were a complete fool. then again, they would not have won the primary if they were fools.
I was going to talk about the GOP, but then realized it would incite a flame war. =/
I'm glad that the counterpart to the tea party is finally taking form of the tequila party. there's republicans, tea party (conservative republicans) democrats, and blue dog democrats (conservative to the point of being moderate republicans) and FINALLY tequila party (liberal democrats)
I hope they stick around. like McCain said, we need passionate people in politics, it's very possible to have heated debates and actually get things done. (this in no way relates to rhetoric)
@darkvoid, any democrat would have won that election unless they were a complete fool. then again, they would not have won the primary if they were fools.
I was going to talk about the GOP, but then realized it would incite a flame war. =/
I'm glad that the counterpart to the tea party is finally taking form of the tequila party. there's republicans, tea party (conservative republicans) democrats, and blue dog democrats (conservative to the point of being moderate republicans) and FINALLY tequila party (liberal democrats)
I hope they stick around. like McCain said, we need passionate people in politics, it's very possible to have heated debates and actually get things done. (this in no way relates to rhetoric)
I believe Hillary Clinton should be president. She essentially ran the country while Bill was in office, I mean its common knowledge what Bill was actually doing. And During the Clinton administration, the country actually dug itself out of debt, then it only took 2 years of George W. in office to send us back into debt.
^I'd like to point out that Obama spent more in his first year in office than Bush did in 8. If you're going to be hating on Bush for spending, hate on Obama for spending even more. That is all.
I dunno about bush over obama.. a healthcare bill passed, a recovery bill, and don't ask don't tell revoked. not to mention the promised troop withdrawal is actually scheduled, so it's going to happen. so, it seems like quite a few promises kept.
now the recovery bill's effectiveness is up for debate, but I pose this question for GOP supporters.. if the bail out didn't work, which was direct money given from the government to help them create jobs, how is giving corporations tax cuts going to create jobs? it's like, here's a million dollars to use to hire people vs u get to keep one million more of the money you made to give more people jobs. both leave us with it's own million dollar price tag.
let's not forget how high taxes were for the wealthy during dwight eisenhower's days.. yet the wealthy still had mansions and lavis over the top parties. not to mention old money that allowed generations to live without working.
now the recovery bill's effectiveness is up for debate, but I pose this question for GOP supporters.. if the bail out didn't work, which was direct money given from the government to help them create jobs, how is giving corporations tax cuts going to create jobs? it's like, here's a million dollars to use to hire people vs u get to keep one million more of the money you made to give more people jobs. both leave us with it's own million dollar price tag.
let's not forget how high taxes were for the wealthy during dwight eisenhower's days.. yet the wealthy still had mansions and lavis over the top parties. not to mention old money that allowed generations to live without working.
The main fault I find with Republicans is the tax cuts for the wealthy. It's just as foolish as the controversial NFL dispute going on. I don't see the point of giving more money to the rich, and the jobs argument doesn't work. I highly doubt mostof that money is going directly into jobs. The stuff they buy might eventually do something for the economy, but then it's worse than say, a large infrastructure project.