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Bidier

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not sure if this has been asked before, or should it be in another place (please move if it's at the wrong place) but here it is.

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the more i look at this card, the more it doesn't make sense to me. Bronzong as we know is a Metal / Psychic type Pokemon, so lets take a look

Metal Pokemons:

Weaknesses:
Fire / Fighting / Ground

Resistances:
Normal / Grass / Bug / Ice / Poison / Psychic / Ghost / Rock /Dark / Steal / Flying / Dragon

Psychic Pokemons:

Weaknesses:
Bug / Ghost / Dark

Resistances:
Fighting / Psychic

from the look of this, Bronzong should be weak to Ground or Fire and the type it resist the most is Psychic since both of Bronzong's pokemon type is Resistance against it.

so instead of Weakness Psychic +20 and Resistance Fire -20, shouldnt it be the other way around like the older Bronzong ?

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what do you guys think ? could this be a misprint ?
 
well from what i can see your saying, it is confusing (for me), but d pokemon changed type and kept the same weak and resist as normal but these ones change type to what the type in the cards would be weak and resist too. if that makes sence....
 
Ok, if you want to look at the cards like that then here are some other misprint errors (don't get me wrong. I just wanna prove my point here :p)

First, every psychic pokemon in the cards have weakness to psychic. They are really resistant to it (accept the game poison type pokemon that are psychic in the cards).

Lucario DP: Shouldn't have a weakness to psychic cause it's resistant AND weak to psychic in the game. If any, it should have weakness to fire.

Drapion DP: Is resistant to psychic (being a dark type pokemon in tha game). Shouldn't be weak to it at all.

Aggron MT: Should be weak to fighting or water. In the game fire is neutral against it.

Dialga: Is resistant and weak to fire-> Should be neutral/weak to fighting.

Palkia: Is weak and resistant to electric.

Blaa blaa... Many more.

Plus if Bronzong had the heatproof ability all fire type attacks would only do half the damage XD

Bottom line, the TCG versions are not dependent on their game counterparts weakness. It all seems to go by the type of the cards in question. It's useless to try to compare them to each other and say it's a misprint.
 
It is odd, but I guess it just makes a Bronzong deck deck all that more better. Doubt it is a misprint, although I would not have made the card that way.
 
Mewstor said:
Ok, if you want to look at the cards like that then here are some other misprint errors (don't get me wrong. I just wanna prove my point here :p)

First, every psychic pokemon in the cards have weakness to psychic. They are really resistant to it (accept the game poison type pokemon that are psychic in the cards).

Lucario DP: Shouldn't have a weakness to psychic cause it's resistant AND weak to psychic in the game. If any, it should have weakness to fire.

Drapion DP: Is resistant to psychic (being a dark type pokemon in tha game). Shouldn't be weak to it at all.

Aggron MT: Should be weak to fighting or water. In the game fire is neutral against it.

Dialga: Is resistant and weak to fire-> Should be neutral/weak to fighting.

Palkia: Is weak and resistant to electric.

Blaa blaa... Many more.

Plus if Bronzong had the heatproof ability all fire type attacks would only do half the damage XD

Bottom line, the TCG versions are not dependent on their game counterparts weakness. It all seems to go by the type of the cards in question. It's useless to try to compare them to each other and say it's a misprint.
Yes, basically all psychic cards are weak to psychic cards (accept the poison ones), and they were using heatproof as an excuse for the weakness. They wanted it this way. It is not a mistake.
 
If you played the DS game you should know this. Bronzong has two abilities, Heatproof and levitate, i think they're just integrating the two games. BTW, heatproof halves fire damage in the DS game.
 
Prof. Shinx said:
well from what I can see your saying, it is confusing (for me), but d pokemon changed type and kept the same weak and resist as normal but these ones change type to what the type in the cards would be weak and resist too. if that makes sence....

this is not a delta pokemon.

LAMR said:
If you played the DS game you should know this. Bronzong has two abilities, Heatproof and levitate, I think they're just integrating the two games. BTW, heatproof halves fire damage in the DS game.

like you said, heat proof only halves the damage, weakness is 200%, if the ability halves the damage, shouldn't it be just 100% ? it only turn "Super Effective" into "Normal Effective", it's still not "Not Very Effective", than it should not be resistant ? or to some other thing like grass or whatever.
 
Bidier said:
Prof. Shinx said:
well from what I can see your saying, it is confusing (for me), but d pokemon changed type and kept the same weak and resist as normal but these ones change type to what the type in the cards would be weak and resist too. if that makes sence....

this is not a delta pokemon.

LAMR said:
If you played the DS game you should know this. Bronzong has two abilities, Heatproof and levitate, I think they're just integrating the two games. BTW, heatproof halves fire damage in the DS game.

like you said, heat proof only halves the damage, weakness is 200%, if the ability halves the damage, shouldn't it be just 100% ? than it should not be resistant ? or to some other thing like grass or whatever.
It is not the exact heatproof ability. It is just a reference to it. They are just linking the games and TCG in a small way. I hope that makes sense.
 
Mercy said:
It is not the exact heatproof ability. It is just a reference to it. They are just linking the games and TCG in a small way. I hope that makes sense.

well, that's fine, am not too worried about the resistant part, am more concerned about the weakness.

Metal Pokemons:

Weaknesses: Fire
Resistances: Psychic / Ghost

Psychic Pokemons:

Weaknesses: Ghost
Resistances: Psychic

no matter what way you look at it, it shouldn't be weak to psychic :(
 
Bidier said:
Mercy said:
It is not the exact heatproof ability. It is just a reference to it. They are just linking the games and TCG in a small way. I hope that makes sense.

well, that's fine, am not too worried about the resistant part, am more concerned about the weakness.

Metal Pokemons:

Weaknesses: Fire
Resistances: Psychic / Ghost

Psychic Pokemons:

Weaknesses: Ghost
Resistances: Psychic

no matter what way you look at it, it shouldn't be weak to psychic :(
I guess I agree, but all non-poison psychics are weak to psychic. That's just the way it is. Maybe it doesn't make sense by game standards, but TCG is completely different. It makes sense by TCG standards.
 
Bidier said:
Prof. Shinx said:
well from what I can see your saying, it is confusing (for me), but d pokemon changed type and kept the same weak and resist as normal but these ones change type to what the type in the cards would be weak and resist too. if that makes sence....

this is not a delta pokemon.

umm, ok, umm, laughs.... i know, i was using that to help explain what i was talking about
 
Prof. Shinx said:
Bidier said:
Prof. Shinx said:
well from what I can see your saying, it is confusing (for me), but d pokemon changed type and kept the same weak and resist as normal but these ones change type to what the type in the cards would be weak and resist too. if that makes sence....

this is not a delta pokemon.

umm, ok, umm, laughs.... I know, I was using that to help explain what I was talking about

well, am not really understand what you are trying to say, but is ok. since we both dont understand each other, lets not bother explaining :D how's that. thanks anyways :p
 
The reason why Psychic Pokémon were originally weak to other Psychic Pokémon is because Ghost Pokémon are also represented through the Psychic-type. I'd bet that the people who come up with the Weaknesses and Resistances for the card game think mainly of the types of the cards themselves and aren't really too concerned with the Pokémon types in-game.
 
Ophie said:
The reason why Psychic Pokémon were originally weak to other Psychic Pokémon is because Ghost Pokémon are also represented through the Psychic-type. I'd bet that the people who come up with the Weaknesses and Resistances for the card game think mainly of the types of the cards themselves and aren't really too concerned with the Pokémon types in-game.

Ah! Forgot about the ghosts!

But still. The cards weakness's go by the cards type, not the type the pokemon has in the video games. They are two different things entirely.
 
Mewstor said:
Ah! Forgot about the ghosts!

But still. The cards weakness's go by the cards type, not the type the pokemon has in the video games. They are two different things entirely.
No, they have always gone by the game. There have been plenty of times when they didn't pick the most logical weakness, simply because a type contains a single type they are weak to.

See: Base Gyarados who is weak to Grass (x2 weakness) as opposed to Lightning (x4 weakness in-game).

They probably do this to ensure types aren't being dominant or to just make the same Pokemon different in a new set just to give you more options.
 
They are just making up things at Nintendo.

"Hey we need to pick a resistance for Weakness and Resistance for Bronzong"

"How about Psychic and Fire"

"In that order?"

"Yeah, why not. Now let's go get new speed boats..."
 
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