Possible Winter/Spring VGC 2013 Format/Metagame (Fall Reg. Rules in OP.)

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Fall Regionals rules: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3471163

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Alright, so in Japan, The Beginning cup is being held soon. The rules are "Only Unova Dex from BW2 Without Ubers."
It is highly possible that this is the ruleset for VGC 2013 as the Fall Friendly in Japan before the VGC 2011 season had the same rules as VGC 2011.

Lets take a look at the Possible Metagame.

Key:
Su=Sun
TR=Trick Room
Sa= Sand

Highly Notable Pokémon will be in bold.


Attackers:
Azumarill (TR)
Excadrill(Sa)
Conkeldurr
Metagross
Scrafty
Heracross
Haxorus
Arcanine
Landorus
Mienfoo
Electivire
Weavile
Mamoswine
Slaking(TR)
Toxicroak
Tyranitar(Sa)


Special Attackers:
Chandelure(TR/Su/No TR/No Sun)
Magnet(z)on(e)
Magmortar
Reuniclus(TR)
Jolteon
Espeon
Roserade
Zoroark
Volcarona(Su/No Sun)
Tornadus
Thundurus
Virizion
Starmie
Ninetales(Su)
Hydreigon(Su/No Sun)
Yanmega(SPEED BOOST)


Defensive/ Support:
Ferrothorn
Whimsicott
Clefable(Follow Me)
Amoonguss(Rage Powder/TR)
Vaporeon
Umbreon
Sigilyph(Psycho shift)
Cofagrigus(TR)
Jellicent(TR/No TR)
Tangrowth(Su)
Weezing
Cobalion
Shuckle :p
Bronzong
Gliscor(Sa)
Lickilicky(Cloud Nine)


Possible threats:
Cincinno(Skill Link)
Gothitelle(Shadow Tag)
Sandslash(Sa)
Zangoose(Toxic Boost)
Aron(Sturdy/Sa)
Ditto(Imposter)


Unorthodox Threats:
Pinsir (Hyper Cutter)
Gigalith
Stoutland(Sa)
Leafeon(Su)
Krookidile(Int)
Darmanitan(Su/ No Sun)
Flygon
Floatzel
Escavailer(TR)
Archeops
Carracosta(Shell Smash)
Sawsbuck(Su)
Eelektross(TR)
Absol(Sucker Punch)
Lapras
Walrein
Golurk(TR)
Crawdawnt(TR)
Crobat
Golduck(Clound Nine)
Altaria(Cloud Nine)

So what are your thoughts on the possible metagame?
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RE: Possible VGC 2013 Format/Metagame

Are you sure? I heard rumors that Ubers would be allowed...they might allow 2 Ubers per team like they did in VGC '11 iirc.
 
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The Yoshi said:
Are you sure? I heard rumors that Ubers would be allowed...they might allow 2 Ubers per team like they did in VGC '11 iirc.
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If anything, I think that 1 Uber would be allowed as there are only 3 ubers+ Events.
 
RE: Possible VGC 2013 Format/Metagame

I really think it may be completely open, though I would rather it be restricted to just the Unova Dex (that's still nearly half the Pokemon right?). Of course, by saying completely open I don't mean 6 Ubers allowed. If any of those (which I would prefer), 2 is plenty.
 
RE: Possible VGC 2013 Format/Metagame

I actually don't think so. Ubers really overcentralize rain even moreso than before. However, maybe hail would be the new thing with Kyurem-W having 170 SpA.
 
RE: Possible VGC 2013 Format/Metagame

I've been seeing a lot about the BW2 Unova Dex format, but I'd much prefer all Pokemon with 2 Ubers allowed. However, if it is BW2 Unova Dex, I won't mind too much, and I'll definitely be playing Sun :p
 
RE: Possible VGC 2013 Format/Metagame

I know I'll get lots of hate for this, but I really wish they would ban weather or at least the abilities that make it. It completely rules the metagame and allows for very little variety, and variety makes battles more interesting for me.
 
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squirtli said:
I've been seeing a lot about the BW2 Unova Dex format, but I'd much prefer all Pokemon with 2 Ubers allowed. However, if it is BW2 Unova Dex, I won't mind too much, and I'll definitely be playing Sun :p
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Standard sun would be something like:
Ninetails, Arcanine (Intimidate), Sawsbuck/Leafeon(Chlorophyll, Leech Seed Tangrowth, Chandelure, Something good.

Also, I agree with Pokeplayer. A weatherless format would be a nice change. Tyranitar was in fact banned in 2009. It'd be interesting.

Anyways, I personally think that Trick Room/Sand is the best playstyle. I'd do something like:
Skill Swap Wonder Guard(Remove Truant, Prevent Sand/LO Damage) Reuniclus, Life Orb Slaking, Cofagrigus (To remove Truant), Metagross, T-Tar,Excadrill.
(I made the best team just now.)

Also, the release of Telepaphy Dialga/Palkia could indicate Ubers in this years format. who knows?

Weavile sounds excellent in this format. Trick Room is a pretty powerful format this year and can deal loads of damage to the good Trick Room setters this year. Also, the Abundance in Flying/Grass Types like Thundurus/Tornadus/Leafeon/Flygon will make it's ice moves really good. Fake Out is a plus also. I'm thinking Weavile might get good usage.
I'm thinking:
Jolly Weavile @ Focus Sash/Choice Band
Ice Punch
Ice Shard/Brick Break
Night Slash
Protect/Thunderpunch?

It Outspeeds any Tornadus-T and takes at least 1 hit.If Tornadus-t is paired with Follow Me Clefable(Suggesting it will be popular) Brick Break can be used instead of Ice Shard.
 
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Tyranitar was in fact banned in 2009.
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That's only because Tyranitar was not legitimately obtainable at level 50. That is the only reason it was banned.
 
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Pokeplayer44 said:
I know I'll get lots of hate for this, but I really wish they would ban weather or at least the abilities that make it. It completely rules the metagame and allows for very little variety, and variety makes battles more interesting for me.
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I watched the VGC finals few days ago and the only weather starter that I saw was Ttar and it really wasn't used to support its teammates with SS so I don't think that it rules the metagame. Not to mention that the BW2 Unova dex only has TTar and Tails. Sand Rush and Chloro Pokemon are also rare and I doubt they'll be overpowered.
 
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Shadow Scyther, I think that Leafeon and Sawsbuck are enough. And Excadrill is good enough to use sand. Not much to stop sun. I wonder if 1-off Rain Dance/Hail will be popular? I could see Azumarill being paired with someone like Crobat who will Rain Dance while Azumarill uses Waterfall/Superpower. Crobat could outspeed and destroy Chlorophyll-mons with Flying Gem Acrobatics. So many ideas for a 2-weather format!
 
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Yeah. There are so many good trick room Pokemon it is ridiculous.
 
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The main reason I'd like to see weather gone is simply that it is a part of the metagame, which I want to see gone. It gets so boring facing the same things over, sure Wolfe had an Exeggcutor on his team, but did he use it? OK, the type matchup was bad with T-Tar and all, but that's not the point. If it was up to me, I'd ban everything on the previous year's 1st and 2nd place World's teams. Trick Room for me is "Tricky" (pun intended). I'm just going to chill out until they release the real rules, and hope for something that makes a fun format. I'm currently leaning toward making the least gimmicky team possible and just getting 6 Pokemon with either all attacking moves or 3 attacking moves+Protect/Detect.
 
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There are only so many good Pokémon and those Pokémon make up the meta. It sorta makes itself.
 
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Pokeplayer44 said:
The main reason I'd like to see weather gone is simply that it is a part of the metagame, which I want to see gone. It gets so boring facing the same things over, sure Wolfe had an Exeggcutor on his team, but did he use it? OK, the type matchup was bad with T-Tar and all, but that's not the point. If it was up to me, I'd ban everything on the previous year's 1st and 2nd place World's teams. Trick Room for me is "Tricky" (pun intended). I'm just going to chill out until they release the real rules, and hope for something that makes a fun format. I'm currently leaning toward making the least gimmicky team possible and just getting 6 Pokemon with either all attacking moves or 3 attacking moves+Protect/Detect.
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The metagame exists because good stuff exists. Take out the good stuff, and other stuff becomes the best, which will then make up the new metagame. You CAN'T get rid of the metagame, no matter how hard you try.

Also, Alan mentioned Tele Dialga, and I meant to mention that as my most wanted thing to use if Ubers is the format :p I'm thinking of pairing him with a Gliscor if Ubers really is the case.
 
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We were pretty peaceful with no ubers :O I don't know why they would add them, but whatever.
 
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I'm going to go ahead and work on a team for this format in case it is. Better safe than sorry!
 
RE: Possible VGC 2013 Format/Metagame

Has anyone else heard that at least for the October Regionals the rules will be the same as they were in the 2011-2012 season? I've heard that, which also includes having to use B/W, not B2/W2.
 
RE: Possible VGC 2013 Format/Metagame

Pokeplayer44 said:
Has anyone else heard that at least for the October Regionals the rules will be the same as they were in the 2011-2012 season? I've heard that, which also includes having to use B/W, not B2/W2.
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I'd be OK with that. the format is so vast and has plenty of options. however, the limited format of Unova only leaves less threats and more strategies. However, some people would rather have the rules the same throughout, since you might be good in one format and stink in the other. It might be those rules since its opnly 1 week after bw2 is released.
 
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