Post-Catcher Decks
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Agreed. But we know approximately what will come in our two upcoming sets altogether. The format for BRs per se, is not very interesting seeing as it doesn't dole out a whole lot of points. The one including our third BW-expansion on the other hand, calls for some interest
That's the one I've been exploring
That's the one I've been exploring
Speed Donphan with lots of Revives.
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It did make sense that Reshiboar would still be good post-catcher. Just drop the BadBoar and run a thicker line of the Ability one. Reshiram isn't that easy to 1hko anyway and has fast recovery.
I still have doubts about BearPlume but it is a good deck.
I love KyuremGatr and Donchamp/ZPS are like... duuuh
I still have doubts about BearPlume but it is a good deck.
I love KyuremGatr and Donchamp/ZPS are like... duuuh
What about locking decks such as Weavile/Slowking/(Ambipom/Houndoom/Mime Jr/Ursaring Prime)? I think those could be quite good after Catcher. After all, if you can't even get your Catcher, how are you going to use it?
Catcher gives you free prizes. If there already is an 80 HP Pokemon active, you're not gonna need Catcher to grab a prize.
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What about Gothitelle decks...
He can lock the opponent's catchers and attack it for decent damage.
He can lock the opponent's catchers and attack it for decent damage.
glaceon said:ATS said:Best decks post catcher:
KyurumGatr
DonChamp
Reshiboar
ZPS
Bearplume
Fact.
Bearplume? Vileplume locks the trainers.
Just FYI, Post-catcher means after the release of catcher. It says nothing about having to use the card in itself... I'm simply listing Bearplume seeing as it counters catcher really well, with it being a trainer and what not
ProudPokePlayer said:
Until a decent hit-and-switch attacker is released, I severely doubt the success of Gothitelle. Although it has the best damn ability in the game, its attack stinks...
LucarioXFroslass said:
That wasn't my point. I feel like Catcher will help locking decks simply because it'll hurt the consistency of any deck. Face it, taking 4 spots out of your deck- or even 1- that could have been used to aid in setup does make the deck slower. And if you're not going to be able to use it late-game against a locking deck, it's just wasting space in that matchup.
Another way it helps these locking decks is because these decks don't necessarily need every Pokémon out on the field. They're running 2-2 Slowking and 4-4 Weavile (for the most part); even if you used Catcher to KO a Slowking, it isn't a huge deal.
In other words:
-You're saying Catcher isn't useful against these decks because it gives free prizes, which it isn't going to aid. So it's almost a waste of space in a matchup against a locking deck. Pre-catcher, those decks use PONT, Judge, Copycat, PokéComm, or other cards that are USEFUL against these decks. Post-Catcher, those are replaced with Catcher, lowering consistency and, against locking decks, not providing any benefits.
Herego, the release of Catcher gives an advantage to these locking decks- Weavile/Slowking/(Ambipom/Houndoom/Ursaring).
THe only thing I'll say is that sniping decks will become underwhelming. Reason being that the draw of snipe is to attack the bench, but Catcher will let any deck do that. KingdraBuzz will be as good as it always was, but it won't seem as good, ya dig?
^Right, because it gains less from Catcher than other decks.
What we need to keep in mind is that no deck will get any worse with the release of any card (because if it makes the deck worse, you might as well not play it- simple logic). There's just the possibility that other decks will gain MORE of an advantage.
And the thing with Catcher is that while everyone's running 4 of it, consistency will drop like a proverbial stone. You have to take out stuff to put Catcher in, so decks that are already consistent will be hurt much less by Catcher than others that have trouble getting helpful draw/search/refresh.
What we need to keep in mind is that no deck will get any worse with the release of any card (because if it makes the deck worse, you might as well not play it- simple logic). There's just the possibility that other decks will gain MORE of an advantage.
And the thing with Catcher is that while everyone's running 4 of it, consistency will drop like a proverbial stone. You have to take out stuff to put Catcher in, so decks that are already consistent will be hurt much less by Catcher than others that have trouble getting helpful draw/search/refresh.
Donphan and Yanmega based decks. ZPS will get hurt by catcher because those become easy prizes, especially for yanmega who can OHKO shaymin. Stage 1 decks will probably end up being tier 1
I think that after Pokemon Catcher is released, Stage 1 decks will become Tier 1, like Cappuccino, Donphan/Champ (donchamp's already Tier 1, by the way), and Yanmega variants, while Magneboar will continue falling into the wayside (because I heard that Magneboar didn't do very well during Nationals, but then again, I might be wrong), and Trainer Lock decks will rise.
...And the only Stage 2 deck worth playing Post-Catcher will be anything running Vileplume UD meaning that almost everyone is going to be running Beartic/Vileplume.
^Not quite. Reshiboar can still do fine if you set up two Emboars. If you can accomplish that in Reshiboar, you're pretty set.
I do agree to an extent that Stage 1 decks will be Tier 1, but Bearplume actually makes this format more balanced. I want to play against Bearplume, even though it has a nice advantage of not having to flip. That way I can become a better Pokemon player.
I do agree to an extent that Stage 1 decks will be Tier 1, but Bearplume actually makes this format more balanced. I want to play against Bearplume, even though it has a nice advantage of not having to flip. That way I can become a better Pokemon player.