Ruling Prize notes?

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Mapleboy86

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I know you are allowed to take notes during a game, and I think you have to let your opponent see what you are writing.

So my question is: Can I take notes of which prizes are what and where they are? (Like if I used Azelf's power) Also, would I have to let my opponent see?
 
I'm pretty sure you're allowed to if you show your opponent. But once you use Time Walk say bye-bye to note privileges.
 
I once asked the same thing. The answer is no. You can only take notes on game state. What's in your prizes is NOT game state. How many you have is, but you can't take notes on how many of so-and-so are in your deck, or your hand.
 
What I would suggest however is that you set them in a certain order and always use that order like pokemon from basic to highest evolution then supporters by alphabetical order then trainers by ABc order then energy by basic then Special. That's what I use and I find that it works good.
 
Rhincodon Typus said:
I once asked the same thing. The answer is no. You can only take notes on game state. What's in your prizes is NOT game state. How many you have is, but you can't take notes on how many of so-and-so are in your deck, or your hand.
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May I ask for the specific definition of "game state"?
 
Zyflair said:
Rhincodon Typus said:
I once asked the same thing. The answer is no. You can only take notes on game state. What's in your prizes is NOT game state. How many you have is, but you can't take notes on how many of so-and-so are in your deck, or your hand.
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May I ask for the specific definition of "game state"?
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I think he means like what is in/isn't in your prizes. If that's the case, then the same will go for the deck. If that is the correct definition, then non-in state should mean some minor stuff, like your opponent's moves or what happens. Not what is in something.
 
Game state is what "the game" knows. "The game" does not know what's in your deck, your prizes, or your hand. It knows how many cards are in your deck, hand, and prizes, but not what they are, and it knows what cards are in play, the discard pile, or the Lost Zone. "The game" also cannot figure out what's in your deck, hand, or prizes through any process of deduction, logic, reasoning, or memory. So if you play a Quick Ball and reveal your entire deck because there's no Pokemon in there, "the game" instantly forgets what's in your deck after the deck is shuffled.

The game has no knowledge of the contents of your deck. For example, if you search your deck for something and fail, you can still use other cards or effects to search for the exact same thing. (Apr 17, 2008 PUI Rules Team)
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More on the knowledge of "the game" and thus game state can be found here.
 
I heard you also have to keep the way your prizes are in formation. You can't change one formation to another after using Time Walk.
 
Every person I've seen play Azelf, they ALL move their prizes around. I doubt it's illegal...

dmaster out.
 
What's the difference and why should it matter? I see nothing in the Compendium about formation.

dmaster out.
 
@d master342: The prizes have to be arranged so that the number of prize cards remaining is clearly visible.
 
Ok, this is it. You are NOT allowed to take notes on your prizes. Also, you ARE allowed to move your prizes around in any way at any time, not just when you use Time Walk. You just can't look at them without it.
 
Or better yet, you could just look at them and use your superior thinking skills to count as high as 6.
 
Yeah, but you might need to take notes on how many you had left at a certain point in time. Like if you wanted to, I don't know, write a tournament report. :p
 
What I was told by a judge last year during the prerelease time at worlds is that. You can right down what is in your prizes after you look with azelf BUT NOT which prizes they are and your opponent must be allowed to see notes at all times.
 
*Edit* Writing in code is illegal :(

EVEN BETTER! Why not use your brain and remember where your prizes are. Put them in a straight line, and repeat the order in your head a few times, it's really not that hard.
 
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