BW/BW2 Question about Action Replays, RNGing, and VGCs

[King Arceus]

I can't guarantee it will. What I can state is that the hack checking device only cares about what is in your Battle Box. That was stated by Mike Liesik.

 

[Ophie]

Wow. This is quite the Us vs. Them mentality (on both sides). The players try to find ways to slip through the hack checks while the officials try to catch as many of them as they can.

How prevalent is this? I don't think I see this sort of behavior in any other competition I've looked into.

 

[DNA]

The fanbase is soooooooooooooo lazy
I do clone a few things myself, but I only clone the UT versions of the Pokemon, and then EV train them up from there. I'm one of those few who works his way up from scratch, apparently...

 

[Ophie]

Heh, I'm actually completely by the book with this. I catch the Pokémon (or get them over the GTS) myself, IV-breed, EV-train, level up by battling in-game trainers in Nimbasa City and the Royal Unova. It doesn't feel like I've accomplished anything otherwise.

I'm wondering how many people who enter the VGCs actually do this.

(I know about RNG manipulation, cloning glitches, and other exploits that aren't coming to mind--I just don't like to do them.)

 

[DNA]

I mostly find the cloning glitch useful because, if I end up messing up on a moveset or whatever, at least I have a backup so I can try it again. And, ironically, when I was training for the VGC - that very thing happened. I had forgotten to teach my Regigigas Drain Punch before migrating it. Good thing I had backups or I would have been really miffed!

Having backups is the main reason. The other reason is so I can clone Nintendo Events and just give them to people who missed out on them. It's one of my ways of helping to give back =)

 

[Ophie]

I see. That's actualy a pretty nice thing to do. It's how I even got Celebi to begin with.

How much risk is there for losing your Pokémon this time? (And is this why actually trying to use the GTS for its intended purpose--to trade Pokémon--so difficult?)

 

[DNA]

I actually don't use the GTS to clone - I use Action Replay, and the risk for the glitch is next to 0%, plus there's virtually no side effects.

I barely use GTS at all except to fill up Unity Tower, so I can't answer that question. (However, I do know there is some way to clone using GTS in Gen 5, but the method to doing so is slightly different.)

 

[Luigi08]

If you hack correctly you wont get caught, its that simple

EDIT: Its been done before, even people who hacked incorrectly to the point at which it was obvious got through the hack checks

 

[Rusty Sticks]

If you hack correctly you wont get caught, its that simple

EDIT: Its been done before, even people who hacked incorrectly to the point at which it was obvious got through the hack checks

There is no such thing as "correct" hacking. Hacking is hacking, simple as that. It's the way you use your hacks that prevents you from getting caught (i.e. don't hack Wonder Guard on your Spiritomb). Either way, it's illegal, and you will (most likely) get caught and disqualified. No questions asked.

 

[Chariblaze]

Either way, it's illegal, and you will (most likely) get caught and disqualified. No questions asked.

That's what he means by correct hacking. Hacking that doesn't actually modify any Pokemon code, and give it odd stuff like locations it shouldn't have been caught in. IV checking, item spawning, cloning; all that stuff doesn't modify Pokemon code, and will pass in VGCs.

I can't personally confirm it, but I can at least tell you that I highly doubt that it will be flagged, since you're not modifying any Pokemon (IV's and EV's and whatnot).