Red Shark

But it is impossible to be consistent, I have calculated all of that that to the decimal!
That's the reason I got into the card game, to make a consistent winning deck, then I saw my deck not be very consistent, so I calculated all of that.
With a 60 card deck, shuffling constantly, having a 100% consistent deck is impossible!
 
nabby101 said:
But it is impossible to be consistent, I have calculated all of that that to the decimal!
That's the reason I got into the card game, to make a consistent winning deck, then I saw my deck not be very consistent, so I calculated all of that.
With a 60 card deck, shuffling constantly, having a 100% consistent deck is impossible!
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Notice I didn't say 100% consistent. I meant consistent as possible. In this regard, Redshark fails to real testing.

dmaster out.
 
The most consistent you can make a deck, is a 56.34% chance of starting what I consider, "Good."
 
If your decks are only giving you a good start 50% of the time, there's something seriously wrong with your list. Now, this is seriously my last post in this thread. Lol.
 
Okay, so you are accusing me of stacking my deck via shuffling and offering my opponent a shuffle or cut, all while there are 2-4 judges watching in a major tournament's top cut? Dude, really?

I have 4 Roseanne and 4 Cyrus in my SP deck. I need a Cyrus to get going. I open with 7 cards in my hand, plus an initial draw, one should be a Roseanne or a Cyrus. If it is a Roseanne, I take an Uxie. I burn some cards and setup for about 5. I have burnt a total of 13 cards now, one should be a Cyrus, Luxury Ball, SP Radar or another Roseanne. If I still haven't pulled the Cyrus, I should be able to survive a couple more turns off basic attacks before I pull the Cyrus. It's extremely simple math. Sure, there are prizes and stuff but it's a lot more complicated accounting for it.

Considering all the even semi-good players out there get good starts more than half the time, I daresay that it is completely wrong to accuse me of stacking my deck. If you can explain to me how I can stack my deck in Top 2 of Regionals against someone who would cut/shuffle just as much as a regular opponent while there are 4 judges watching and further back other people from the tournament and parents?

Do you really think that people go to worlds with a 50% chance of getting a good start? If that were so, this game would have virtually no skill. One player would dominate 50% of the time, neither player would be able to do anything 25% of the time and 25% of the time people will have a good game. How many people do you think would still play this game if they could only have a good, fun game 25% of the time.

If you don't mind, I'd like to see your math. Considering Gengar and Beedrill and stuff usually run Pokedex and PokeDrawer+, that really does change what a good start can be. Flygon is considered inconsistent, but the people who win with Flygon don't stack their decks, they know how to make it work.

Honestly, it's one thing to say you've been unlucky or whatever. But it's something completely different to accuse others of having an okay tournament record only because they stack their decks. Believe it or not, Pokemon is not my life. I wouldn't cheat win a children's game. I did that once when I was like 9 and I felt so bad that I swore to myself never to do it again. And I haven't.

I could keep going on here, but this isn't worth my time. All I do is post my opinion on RS and give some facts on how good the randomizer is. Then I get flamed for it and accused of cheating. I'm sorry if you took offense from whatever I said, that wasn't my intention.
 
Celebi: nobody accused you of cheateing, nabby 101 said this "unless you guys somehow magicly stack your decks. your name was never used in the same sentence with cheating. you dont have to get so ofensive over nothing so calm down please
 
I am sorry if I offended you, and like Dakota said, I didn't accuse you, I was just getting my point across. If it sounded like I meant you were cheating, I am sorry.
The math though would take up about 50 lines, give or take a few, so I can't exactly show you that. But I basically took the top two decks that won the worlds in 2008 (this was a while ago), and I studied the decklist. Then, I basically divided the number of cards, by the number of different cards, divided by the number of 60 times whatever the amout of same cards there were, etc, etc.
As I said it would be very complicated to explain.
 
Sorry for getting so worked up; I just assumed that because the subject of the stacking post was related to the subject of my post the post was directed at me. The thing about your math is that it doesn't sound like you applied for things like Telepass, searching Supporters, Cosmic Power and Mimic. Search cards can make a huge difference. And considering that starting with a Roseanne or Cyrus is usually all SP decks need it's a lot simpler than taking all of those cards.
 
He was only talking about the start celebi,the first 7 cards,get it?And you dont have to get soooooo tensed,all of us know how well you play(yeah i remember,it was just yesterday ),so dont get offended.
 
Okay, I’ll apologize again. I guess I just jumped to conclusions, combined with lack of sleep. It just seemed like I was being accused of stacking my deck at some point during or before the game. Now I see that is not the case. That’s the only reason why I got so worked up, because I always make an effort to follow all the rules. Honestly, I don’t think I’m a very good player when you look at people like Ness and Gino. I don’t care as much about that. I just thought that I was being accused of stacking. That’s why I got so mad. And again, I’m sorry. Surely you guys would be somewhat upset if you thought you were accused of cheating in some way?
 
We all understand quite well what it is to be accused,celebi,and i believe all of us are sorry for this misunderstanding.
 
Yeah, I meant the start, but to have a good setup after 3 turns with a decent deck would be around 77%, which really isn't all that amzing when you think about it.
 
Ya Calculating makes no sence because it depends on the deck. If your playing a machamp deck you would have a better start if you had 4 rare candies and a few Broken time-space but if you didnt have thoughs it would be diferent.
 
Well, I was calculating the top 2 decks from 2008, so if they don't have a near perfect decklist, who does?
TDA - Because I need to know this stuff so I win more battles. The deck I play now (Kingscor), has a 51.3% chance of getting a good first hand, and a 72.8% chance of being completely set up T3.
It works pretty well, I must say, and RedShark doesn't affect anything.
 
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