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Rotation: Rising Rivals and on?
- Thread starter Card Slinger J
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While it is a possible, and I would indeed like it, I still have a cinch about PL-on. Think about it. The Professor Cup this year is PL-on, so it would make more sense for the next format being PL-on. Plus, usually we have out winter sets rotated out and the spring set kept in (for example, PL out and RR remains in). But don't you think they'll change that? PL was the start of a new type of series, the PL series. Jump one year in advance, and you have the start of the Legend series. So... yeah.
But that's just my two cents.
But that's just my two cents.
If that's the case then there goes Charizard, didn't even have more than 1 Season to shine either. So close but yet so far... -_____-
After so many expansions since Base Set we finally get a playable Charizard only to rotate out in less than 5 months from now. That would be epic fail If that ever happened.
I guess Ho-Oh LEGEND would be an okay substitute over Charizard which is basically sorta how the set originally intended in the first place. Even still it just doesn't feel right cause it would lack strategy.
After so many expansions since Base Set we finally get a playable Charizard only to rotate out in less than 5 months from now. That would be epic fail If that ever happened.
I guess Ho-Oh LEGEND would be an okay substitute over Charizard which is basically sorta how the set originally intended in the first place. Even still it just doesn't feel right cause it would lack strategy.
We don't even know if that info is true until the week before the worlds.
Here is my argument against that theory. At the professor cup this year it is going to be a Plat-On format. Does this tell you anything? Also PUSA has people who actually know the meta's, what people are playing , and how certain rotations would affect the current meta game. Do you think that it would help them to have all those worthless SP's in the format(without E-Gan, Power Spray, and Poke Turn...)? I think that it we would just have a way too fast, too soon shift of the meta. This is why I think It will be Plat-On
If it would show up for me, I would.
I agree. the Plat-On Professor's cup seems like a pretty decent indication, but again, even if I wish for an HGSS-On rotation, realistically, RR or SV-on would be more likely, and I like the metagame that would come from them.
I agree. the Plat-On Professor's cup seems like a pretty decent indication, but again, even if I wish for an HGSS-On rotation, realistically, RR or SV-on would be more likely, and I like the metagame that would come from them.
Frodus said:
An HGSS-On (LEGENDS) format that's what. Other than Rapidash (Wild Guard) from Arceus and maybe Arcanine from Rising Rivals which can be vital to the deck depending on how you go about it that's about it.
Frodus said:
I was talking about Arceus Charizard.
Zora said:
Not gonna happen, All 7 Diamond/Pearl sets are most likely going to be rotated out unless they decide to keep in LA since it almost came out in the same year as Platinum Base.
HGSS would be the nicest. It would get rif of SPs, which will dominate if its PL-on. I think it would be ridiculous if they cut out part of a block. So I see it being PL-on, but I would prefer HGSS-on.
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I hate when people keep on bringing up this subject. We are not going to know for a few months, so just go with the flow. Don't worry about it, because we will never know.
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I hate when people keep on bringing up this subject. We are not going to know for a few months, so just go with the flow. Don't worry about it, because we will never know.
The format used at the Professor Cup doesn't mean that cards will get rotated one way or another. Dan Brandt said that or something similar on the Professor Forums if I recall correctly.
the current standing seems to be keeping full evolutionary lines (hence the huge debate last rotation) if they can keep all the old lines complete then none evolving basics can be easily sorted with new prints in later sets, it would be best to see what Lost link provides we may get new pixies in that set for a start
GHJamesGH said:
But HGSS-On for the 2010-2011 Season would kill the game. With little sets to work off of people would be running the same decks and most likely everyone would quit. In a PL-On format there's other decks besides SP that will do just as good, sure we lose stuff we had from DP-On but the newer sets help compensate for it.
GHJamesGH said:
I know this will be a huge discussion topic at States and other upcoming events, some people like me just don't want their recently built decks to get dismantled in such a short period of time. I already have 2 decks right now that are set for a possible Platinum-On or RR/SV-On format and tearing those decks apart while only having to work on just 3 HGSS sets would just be horrible.
Sure I wouldn't like it as much as some people and I can understand how some people are optimistic about it because it gets rid of the threat of SP decks which IMO Rising Rivals or Supreme Victors-On would be the better choice out of a complete 11 expansion wipe to HeartGold/SoulSilver-On.
Also some SP decks lose vital cards from the Diamond/Pearl sets that make them a powerhouse, Legos a.k.a Palkia Lock loses Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. Luxray/Garchomp not much, but other than that Legos gets hit the hardest by the rotation.
Without Platinum Base Set and Rising Rivals that cripples SP decks alot, Arceus has cards that still helps the metagame (Spiritomb, Expert Belt, and Charizard for getting around Vileplume Revived Legends) and even though Supreme Victors wasn't that good of an expansion it still had plenty of good cards to offer that can help the next format (Exploud, Staraptor FB Lv. X, Palmer's Contribution, and Vs. Seeker).
Before you think HGSS-On might be a good idea this early which is not, think about how other players would react to it and understand where they're getting at in terms of consistency and deck playability in general.
CardSlingerJ--I still don't get the argument that the low set numbers would kill the game. A smaller card pool would encourage just as much same-decking as the large pool we have now (Yes, there's bunches of SP variants, but almost all the same core deck). It encourages a little more thinking in my opinion as people would have to use a limited pool to overcome the main deck.
I'll quote base set to Neo experience again. THe big decks relied on fire pokemon> I built a quagsire deck that started ruling the local tournaments that got countered by a psychic-weak grass deck, and so on, cycling the decks. Right now, with so many cards and the weakness worked out the way it is, there's a lot less ingenuity happening because of the huge card pool because there are so many established, tested and completed deck types, why bother making any new decks?
As far as it killing the game, yeah, it'll piss people off, but it's doubtful that it would outright kill it. Somehow, Naruto and DBZ manage to stay afloat with their weird rotation strategy. They actively rotate sets on a 1-in-1-out method and the games are still going. It's not huge, but it's still going. Plus, if they do it once and get a huge backlash, they have time to change before the season gets going or optionally, never do it again.
I'll quote base set to Neo experience again. THe big decks relied on fire pokemon> I built a quagsire deck that started ruling the local tournaments that got countered by a psychic-weak grass deck, and so on, cycling the decks. Right now, with so many cards and the weakness worked out the way it is, there's a lot less ingenuity happening because of the huge card pool because there are so many established, tested and completed deck types, why bother making any new decks?
As far as it killing the game, yeah, it'll piss people off, but it's doubtful that it would outright kill it. Somehow, Naruto and DBZ manage to stay afloat with their weird rotation strategy. They actively rotate sets on a 1-in-1-out method and the games are still going. It's not huge, but it's still going. Plus, if they do it once and get a huge backlash, they have time to change before the season gets going or optionally, never do it again.