Discussion Scarlet & Violet (SVI) Prospective Set List

[dineinunes]

RELEASE DATE: March 31st, 2023


REGULAR SET (200/198)

DOUBLE RARES: 14/12

[01*] Pineco (Violet ex)
[02*] Heracross (Violet ex)
[03*] Shroomish (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[04*] Breloom (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[05*] Cacnea (Scarlet ex)
[06*] Cacturne (Scarlet ex)
[07*] Tropius (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[08*] Scatterbug (Violet ex)
[09*] Spewpa (Violet ex)
[10*] Vivillon (Violet ex)
[11*] Skido (Scarlet ex)
[12*] Gogoat (Scarlet ex)
[13] Sprigatito (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[14*] Floragato (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[15*] Meowscarada (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[??] Tarountula (Violet ex)
[??] Tarountula (Violet ex)
[??] Tarountula (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[??] Spidops

(Violet ex)
[??] Smoliv (Scarlet ex)
[??] Smoliv (Scarlet ex)
[??] Dolliv (Scarlet ex)
[??] Arboliva (Scarlet ex)
[??] Toedscool (Violet ex)
[??] Toedscool (Violet ex)
[??] Toedscruel (Violet ex)
[??] Capsakid (Violet ex)
[??] Capsakid (Violet ex)
[??] Scovillain (Violet ex)
[??] Growlithe (Violet ex)
[??] Growlithe (Starter Set ex - Fuecoco & Ampharos ex)
[??] Arcanine

(Violet ex)
[??] Houndour (Violet ex)
[??] Houndoom (Violet ex)
[??] Torkoal (Scarlet ex)
[36] Fuecoco (Starter Set ex - Fuecoco & Ampharos ex)
[??] Crocalor (Starter Set ex - Fuecoco & Ampharos ex)
[??] Skeledirge (Starter Set ex - Fuecoco & Ampharos ex)
[??] Charcadet (Scarlet ex)
[??] Charcadet (Scarlet ex)
[??] Armarouge (Scarlet ex)
[??] Slowpoke (Violet ex)
[??] Slowbro (Violet ex)
[??] Magikarp (Scarlet ex)
[??] Gyarados

(Scarlet ex)
[??] Buizel (Scarlet ex)
[??] Floatzel (Scarlet ex)
[??] Alomomola (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex)
[??] Clauncher (Violet ex)
[??] Clawitzer (Violet ex)
[??] Bruxish (Scarlet ex)
[52] Quaxly (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex)
[53*] Quaxwell (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex)
[54*] Quaquaval (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex)
[??] Wiglett (Scarlet ex)
[??] Wiglett (Scarlet ex)
[??] Wugtrio (Scarlet ex)
[??] Cetoddle (Violet ex)
[??] Cetoddle (Violet ex)
[??] Cetitan (Violet ex)
[??] Dondozo (Scarlet ex)
[??] Tatsugiri (Scarlet ex)
[??] Magnemite (Violet ex)
[??] Magneton (Violet ex)
[??] Magnezone

(Violet ex)
[??] Mareep (Starter Set ex - Fuecoco & Ampharos ex)
[??] Flaaffy (Starter Set ex - Fuecoco & Ampharos ex)
[??] Ampharos

(Starter Set ex - Fuecoco & Ampharos ex)
[??] Pachirisu (Violet ex)
[??] Rotom (Violet ex)
[??] Rotom (Starter Set ex - Fuecoco & Ampharos ex)
[??] Toxel (Violet ex)
[??] Toxtricity (Violet ex)
[??] Pawmi (Violet ex)
[??] Pawmi (Violet ex)
[??] Pawmo (Violet ex)
[??] Pawmot (Violet ex)
[??] Wattrel (Scarlet ex)
[??] Wattrel (Scarlet ex)
[??] Kilowattrel (Scarlet ex)
[??] Miraidon (005/SV-P)
[81] Miraidon

(Violet ex)
[??] Drowzee (Violet ex)
[??] Hypno (Violet ex)
[??] Ralts (Scarlet ex)
[??] Kirlia (Scarlet ex)
[??] Gardevoir

(Scarlet ex)
[??] Shuppet (Violet ex)
[??] Banette

(Violet ex)
[??] Drifloon (Scarlet ex)
[??] Drifblim (Scarlet ex)
[??] Flabébé (Violet ex)
[??] Floette (Violet ex)
[??] Florges (Violet ex)
[??] Dedenne (Scarlet ex)
[??] Dedenne (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex)
[??] Klefki (Violet ex)
[??] Fidough (Scarlet ex)
[??] Fidough (Scarlet ex)
[??] Dachsbun (Scarlet ex)
[??] Flittle (Scarlet ex)
[??] Flittle (Scarlet ex)
[??] Flittle (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex)
[??] Espathra (Scarlet ex)
[??] Greavard (Violet ex)
[??] Greavard (Violet ex)
[??] Houndstone (Violet ex)
[??] Mankey (Violet ex)
[??] Primeape (Violet ex)
[??] Annihilape (Violet ex)
[??] Meditite (Scarlet ex)
[??] Medicham (Scarlet ex)
[??] Riolu (Scarlet ex)
[??] Riolu (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[??] Lucario (Scarlet ex)
[??] Lucario

(Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[??] Sandile (Scarlet ex)
[??] Krokorok (Scarlet ex)
[??] Krookodile (Scarlet ex)
[??] Hawlucha (Scarlet ex)
[??] Silicobra (Scarlet ex)
[??] Sandaconda (Scarlet ex)
[??] Stonjourner (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[??] Klawf (Scarlet ex)
[??] Great Tusk

(Scarlet ex)
[??] Koraidon (007/SV-P)
[125] Koraidon

(Scarlet ex)
[??] Grimer (Scarlet ex)
[??] Muk (Scarlet ex)
[??] Seviper (Scarlet ex)
[??] Spiritomb (Violet ex)
[??] Croagunk (Scarlet ex)
[??] Toxicroak

(Scarlet ex)
[??] Pawniard (Scarlet ex)
[??] Bisharp (Scarlet ex)
[??] Kingambit (Scarlet ex)
[??] Maschiff (Violet ex)
[??] Maschiff (Violet ex)
[??] Mabosstiff (Violet ex)
[??] Bombirdier (Violet ex)
[??] Forretress (Violet ex)
[??] Varoom (Scarlet ex)
[??] Varoom (Scarlet ex)
[??] Revavroom (Scarlet ex)
[??] Iron Treads

(Violet ex)
[??] Chansey (Violet ex)
[??] Blissey (Violet ex)
[??] Zangoose (Scarlet ex)
[??] Zangoose (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex)
[??] Starly (Scarlet ex)
[??] Staravia (Scarlet ex)
[??] Staraptor (Scarlet ex)
[??] Skwovet (Violet ex)
[??] Greedent (Violet ex)
[??] Indeedee (Violet ex)
[??] Lechonk (Scarlet ex)
[155] Lechonk (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)
[??] Lechonk (Scarlet ex)
[??] Oinkologne

(Scarlet ex)
[??] Tandemaus (Violet ex)
[??] Tandemaus (Violet ex)
[??] Maushold (Violet ex)
[??] Squawkabilly (Violet ex)
[??] Cyclizar (Violet ex)
[??] Cyclizar (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex)
[??] Flamigo (Starter Set ex - Fuecoco & Ampharos ex)
[??] Arven (Violet ex)
[??] Beach Court (Scarlet ex)
[??] Choice Belt (Premium Trainer Box ex, Brilliant Stars)
[??] Crushing Hammer (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex, Crown Zenith)
[??] Defiant Band (Scarlet ex)
[??] Electricity Generator (Violet ex)
[??] Energy Retrieval (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex, Crown Zenith)
[??] Energy Search (Starter Set ex, Crown Zenith)
[??] Energy Switch (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex, Crown Zenith)
[??] Exp. Share (Scarlet ex, Battle Styles)
[??] Jacq (Scarlet ex)
[??] Judge (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex, Fusion Strike)
[??] Katy (Violet ex)
[??] Mesagoza City (Violet ex)
[??] Miriam (Violet ex)
[??] Nemona (Starter Set ex)
[??] Nemona (Starter Set ex - Fuecoco & Ampharos ex)
[??] Nest Ball (Scarlet ex, Sun & Moon)
[??] Pal Pad (Scarlet ex, Sword & Shield)
[??] Penny (Scarlet ex)
[??] Picnic Basket (Violet ex)
[??] Pokégear 3.0 (Starter Set ex, Sword & Shield)
[??] Pokémon Catcher (Starter Set ex, Crown Zenith)
[??] Potion (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex, Crown Zenith)
[189] Professor's Research - Professor Sada (Scarlet ex)
[190] Professor's Research - Professor Turo (Violet ex)
[191*] Rare Candy (Violet ex, Crown Zenith)
[192] Rock Chestplate (Scarlet ex)
[193*] Rocky Helmet (Violet ex, Vivid Voltage)
[194*] Switch (Starter Set ex, Crown Zenith)
[195*] Team Star Grunt (Scarlet ex)
[196*] Ultra Ball (Violet ex, Crown Zenith)
[197*] Vitality Band (Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex, Sword & Shield)
[198*] Youngster (Starter Set ex - Sprigatito & Lucario ex)

SECRET RARES (60/60)

FULL ART POKÉMON: 12/12
FULL ART SUPPORTERS: 8/8
ILLUSTRATION RARES: 24/24
SPECIAL ILLUSTRATION RARES: 10/10
GOLD HYPER RARE: 6/6

[199*] IR Tarountula (Violet ex)
[200*] IR Dolliv (Scarlet ex)
[201*] IR Toedscool (Violet ex)
[202*] IR Scovillain (Violet ex)
[203*] IR Armarouge (Scarlet ex)
[204*] IR Slowpoke (Violet ex)
[205*] IR Clauncher (Violet ex)
[206*] IR Wiglett (Scarlet ex)
[207*] IR Dondozo (Scarlet ex)
[208*] IR Pachirisu (Violet ex)
[209*] IR Pawmot (Violet ex)
[210*] IR Drowzee (Violet ex)
[211*] IR Ralts (Scarlet ex)
[212*] IR Kirlia (Scarlet ex)
[213*] IR Fidough (Scarlet ex)
[214*] IR Greavard (Violet ex)
[215*] IR Riolu (Scarlet ex)
[216*] IR Sandile (Scarlet ex)
[217*] IR Klawf (Scarlet ex)
[218*] IR Kingambit (Scarlet ex)
[219*] IR Mabosstiff (Violet ex)
[220*] IR Bombirdier (Violet ex)
[221*] IR Starly (Scarlet ex)
[222*] IR Skwovet (Violet ex)
[223*] FA Spidops

(Violet ex)
[224*] FA Arcanine

(Violet ex)
[225*] FA Gyarados

(Scarlet ex)
[226*] FA Magnezone

(Violet ex)
[227*] FA Miraidon

(Violet ex)
[228*] FA Gardevoir

(Scarlet ex)
[229*] FA Banette

(Violet ex)
[230*] FA Great Tusk

(Scarlet ex)
[231*] FA Koraidon

(Scarlet ex)
[232*] FA Toxicroak

(Scarlet ex)
[233*] FA Iron Treads

(Violet ex)
[234*] FA Oinkologne

(Scarlet ex)
[235*] FA Arven (Violet ex)
[236*] FA Jacq (Scarlet ex)
[237*] FA Katy (Violet ex)
[238*] FA Miriam (Violet ex)
[239*] FA Penny (Scarlet ex)
[240*] FA Professor's Research - Professor Sada (Scarlet ex)
[241*] FA Professor's Research - Professor Turo (Violet ex)
[242*] FA Team Star Grunt (Scarlet ex)
[243*] SIR Spidops

(Violet ex)
[244*] SIR Miraidon

(Violet ex)
[245*] SIR Gardevoir

(Scarlet ex)
[246*] SIR Great Tusk

(Scarlet ex)
[247*] SIR Koraidon

(Scarlet ex)
[248*] SIR Iron Treads

(Violet ex)
[249*] SIR Arven (Violet ex)
[250*] SIR Jacq (Scarlet ex)
[251*] SIR Miriam (Violet ex)
[252*] SIR Penny (Scarlet ex)
[253*] GOLD Miraidon

(Violet ex)
[254*] GOLD Koraidon

(Scarlet ex)
[255*] GOLD Nest Ball (Scarlet ex)
[256*] GOLD Rare Candy (Violet ex)
[257*] GOLD Lightning Energy (Violet ex)
[258*] GOLD Fighting Energy (Scarlet ex)

CARDS INTENTIONALLY EXCLUDED

CONFIRMED PROMOS

Sprigatito (unknown origin) - available as SVP 001
Fuecoco (unknown origin) - available as SVP 002
Quaxly (unknown origin) - available as SVP 003
Mimikyu

(Starter Set ex - Quaxly & Mimikyu ex) - available as SVP ???
Quaquaval (unknown origin) - available as SVP 005
Pawmot (unknown origin) - available as SVP 006
Hawlucha (unknown origin) - available as SVP 007
Revavroom (unknown origin) - available as SVP 008
Spidops (002/SV-P) - available as SVP ???
Espathra (006/SV-P) - available as SVP ???
Arcanine (003/SV-P) - available as SVP 011
Dondozo (004/SV-P) - available as SVP 012
IR Miraidon (unknown origin) - available as SVP 013
IR Koraidon (unknown origin) - available as SVP 014

POSSIBLE PROMOS

Pikachu (Scarlet & Violet Prerelease Promo)
Miraidon (005/SV-P)
Koraidon (007/SV-P)
Oinkologne (008/SV-P)
Cyclizar

(009/SV-P)
Poké Ball (010/SV-P)

 

[beatbox2000]

Good job with the list.

 

[Kangaflora]

So far we have the following:
Grass (G): Weakness: R; Resistance: --
Bug (G): Weakness: R; Resistance: --
Fire (R): Weakness: W; Resistance: --
Water (W): Weakness: L; Resistance: -- (Thank Arceus!)
Ice (W): Weakness: M; Resistance: --
Electric (L): Weakness: F; Resistance: --
Psychic (P): Weakness: D; Resistance: F -30
Ghost (P): Weakness: D; Resistance: F -30
Fairy (P): Weakness: M; Resistance: --
Fighting (F): Weakness: P; Resistance: --
Ground (F): Weakness: G; Resistance: --
Rock (F): Weakness: G; Resistance: --
Dark (D): Weakness: G; Resistance: --
Poison (D): Weakness: F; Resistance: --
Steel (M): Weakness: R; Resistance: G -30
Dragon (?): to be confirmed
Flying (C): Weakness: L; Resistance: F -30
Normal (C): Weakness: F; Resistance: --

Thought I get this post ready, JUST IN CASE they edit the weaknesses and resistances for certain Pokémon like they did last generation, when Water types THANKFULLY had their Grass Weakness reverted BACK to LIGHTNING.

Reason for edit: Dragon is the only type that has yet to be confirmed.

Who is predicting a type retcon for the Dragon types? If the Dragon types are not returning for the Scarlet and Violet era, then I predict that they will be Fire with Psychic Weakness.

Reason for prediction: Dragons breath fire, and Fairy types are represented as Psychic types in the TCG

 

[N's Rhyperior]

The

So far we have the following:
Grass: Weakness: R; Resistance: --
Bug: to be confirmed
Fire: Weakness: W; Resistance: --
Water: Weakness: L; Resistance: -- (Thank Arceus!)
Ice: to be confirmed
Electric: Weakness: F; Resistance: --
Psychic: to be confirmed
Ghost: to be confirmed
Fairy: Weakness: M; Resistance: --
Fighting: Weakness: P; Resistance: --
Ground: to be confirmed
Rock: to be confirmed
Dark: to be confirmed
Poison: to be confirmed
Steel: to be confirmed
Dragon: to be confirmed
Flying: to be confirmed
Normal: Weakness: F; Resistance: --

Thought I get this post ready, JUST IN CASE they edit the weaknesses and resistances for certain Pokémon like they did last generation, when Water types THANKFULLY had their Grass Weakness reverted BACK to LIGHTNING.

changes from SWSH might be carry over

 

[Kangaflora]

The

changes from SWSH might be carry over

I know, that's why I created the post, last generation, Poison went from Psychic to Darkness, and Psychic types received a Weakness and a Resistance correction. If there are any changes, we will know about it. Plus they may give the Dragon types a Weakness this time round.

 

[MariaGolston]

So far we have the following:
Grass: Weakness: R; Resistance: --
Bug: to be confirmed
Fire: Weakness: W; Resistance: --
Water: Weakness: L; Resistance: -- (Thank Arceus!)
Ice: to be confirmed
Electric: Weakness: F; Resistance: --
Psychic: to be confirmed
Ghost: to be confirmed
Fairy: Weakness: M; Resistance: --
Fighting: Weakness: P; Resistance: --
Ground: to be confirmed
Rock: to be confirmed
Dark: to be confirmed
Poison: to be confirmed
Steel: to be confirmed
Dragon: to be confirmed
Flying: to be confirmed
Normal: Weakness: F; Resistance: --

Thought I get this post ready, JUST IN CASE they edit the weaknesses and resistances for certain Pokémon like they did last generation, when Water types THANKFULLY had their Grass Weakness reverted BACK to LIGHTNING.



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[steffenka]

Based on the placement of Rock Chestplate, it appears to me like the Full Art cards appears as SR cards like in Japanese, since 6 FA cards seem a bit low for both ex cards and Supporters

 

[N's Rhyperior]

Based on the placement of Rock Chestplate, it appears to me like the Full Art cards appears as SR cards like in Japanese, since 6 FA cards seem a bit low for both ex cards and Supporters

That's how they'll end up being. We don't have the official confirmation on the set info. I remember the days where TPCi messed up on the online database for XY base, iirc, it says that XY base has 141 cards and it stopped to Venusaur EX FA (141/141), when it is actually 146 cards.

 

[dineinunes]

For now I put the AR/SARs as secret rares because the set description doesn't mention anything about a subset.

 

[dineinunes]

Updated with today's reveals. Unfortunately there's a limit of 100 images per post so I had to ditch the visual set list, so now I will only include images of the cut cards.

 

[dineinunes]

Seems like Rainbow Rares are gone, FINALLY!
Also, the sheet says 12 double rares (ex pokémon) but we have 14 available, so 2 should get the chop.

 

[N's Rhyperior]

Seems like Rainbow Rares are gone, FINALLY!
Also, the sheet says 12 double rares (ex pokémon) but we have 14 available, so 2 should get the chop.

Mimikyu ex might be omitted because it was a promo over here

 

[dineinunes]

Mimikyu ex might be omitted because it was a promo over here

Mimikyu ex was not counted, even without it we still have 2 to be cut.

 

[leetic]

A list of what Gen IX Pokémon have yet to appear, so we know what to expect from the next set:

- Lokix line
- Garganacl line
- Ceruledge
- Bellibolt line
- Grafaiai line
- Brambleghast line
- Rabasca line
- Tinkaton line
- Palafin line
- Orthworm
- Glimmora line
- Veluza
- Clodsire line
- Farigiraf
- Dudunsparce
- All paradoxes except for Great Tusk and Iron Treads
- Baxcalibur line
- Gholdengo line
- Treasures of Ruin
- Paldean Tauros

 

[Kangaflora]

A list of what Gen IX Pokémon have yet to appear, so we know what to expect from the next set:

- Lokix line
- Garganacl line
- Ceruledge
- Bellibolt line
- Grafaiai line
- Brambleghast line
- Rabasca line
- Tinkaton line
- Palafin line
- Orthworm
- Glimmora line
- Veluza
- Clodsire line
- Farigiraf
- Dudunsparce
- All paradoxes except for Great Tusk and Iron Treads
- Baxcalibur line
- Gholdengo line
- Treasures of Ruin
- Paldean Tauros

We might as well include Great Tusk and Iron Treads as they don't have a regular cards as of yet. The set includes every type except Dragon. Could that hint at a change for Dragon Pokémon in the TCG?

 

[beatbox2000]

If Great Tusk and Iron Treads ex are the ones cut, then most likely the Espathra and Oinkologne promos are in.

Though I'm not sure what cards will be in the one pack blisters. Maybe Koraidon and Miraidon but then Spidops is left out.

 

[dineinunes]

If Great Tusk and Iron Treads ex are the ones cut, then most likely the Espathra and Oinkologne promos are in.

Though I'm not sure what cards will be in the one pack blisters. Maybe Koraidon and Miraidon but then Spidops is left out.

I think the most likely is that Lucario ex and Ampharos ex will be the cut ones. We alreayd know Mimikyu ex is a promo and it came from the same product as them. Also, the set description mentions 12 Double Rares and 12 Ultra Rares. It would make sense that every ex card in Scarlet ex and Violet ex will get FAs and they should all come in this set since there should be 12 of them. It would not make sense to have FA Iron Treads/Great Tusk in this set but having the regular one saved for the next set. Of course the regular exs could be just promos.

 

[beatbox2000]

I think the most likely is that Lucario ex and Ampharos ex will be the cut ones. We alreayd know Mimikyu ex is a promo and it came from the same product as them. Also, the set description mentions 12 Double Rares and 12 Ultra Rares. It would make sense that every ex card in Scarlet ex and Violet ex will get FAs and they should all come in this set since there should be 12 of them. It would not make sense to have FA Iron Treads/Great Tusk in this set but having the regular one saved for the next set. Of course the regular exs could be just promos.

I meant, some cards need to replace them in the set list right?

Now that Espathra is out as well. Not sure what could be in.

 

[steffenka]

I think the most likely is that Lucario ex and Ampharos ex will be the cut ones. We alreayd know Mimikyu ex is a promo and it came from the same product as them. Also, the set description mentions 12 Double Rares and 12 Ultra Rares. It would make sense that every ex card in Scarlet ex and Violet ex will get FAs and they should all come in this set since there should be 12 of them. It would not make sense to have FA Iron Treads/Great Tusk in this set but having the regular one saved for the next set. Of course the regular exs could be just promos.

If they are cut, do you think that would include the Riolu, Mareep, and Flaaffy? Because that's an additional 3 cards we need to add in

 

[dineinunes]

I meant, some cards need to replace them in the set list right?

Now that Espathra is out as well. Not sure what could be in.

I think Miraidon and Koraidon are certain to be in it since their illustration rares will be the ETB promos.