Standard Sceptile EX / Ariados / Crobat

[MagmaDragon]

Hi.
I just want to ask about a Sceptile Bats deck for a standard game.
I want to know what will work best and my budget is a bit tight so.. thats a problem..
My current decklist:

Pokémon:

• 4 Sceptile EX (AO)
• 3-3 Ariados (AO)
• 3-3-3 Crobat (PF)

Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums:

• 3 Professor Sycamore
• 1 Wally
• 1 Hex Maniac
• 1 Steven
• 2 Lysandre
• 1 AZ
• 1 Giovanni's Scheme

• 3 Ultra Ball
• 3 Level Ball
• 3 Muscle Band
• 4 VS Seeker
• 3 Trainers' Mail
• 1 Escape Rope
• 1 Switch
• 1 Professor's Letter
• 1 Super Rod

• 1 Silent Lab

Energy:

• 10 Grass Energy

Strategy:

Help me improve it
thanks

 

[bbninjas]

Moved from the TCG Help & Advice into the Deck Garage as the OP is looking for assistance in improving their deck list. ~bbninjas

 

[bowlerdude04]

Assuming that "my budget is a bit tight" means no Shaymin,

I think a 2-2 Ariados line would suffice and I don't see how you would need 10 grass energy when you have four attackers, they only require GC to attack, and you have a Super Rod for recovery. I think you can go down to 8 there.

Wally doesn't activate the Bats ability and if you wanted to get Ariados in play immediately you could use Giant Plant Forest and not have to spend a Supporter. You can't use Unseen Claw until T2, so you don't need Ariados until then anyway, so I think you could do better than Wally. I would also cut Steven.

If you can't use Shaymin you need Supporter draw. There is Octillery but that gets to be a large number of Pokemon if you run it, and you also have bench space to worry about. Max Sycamore and add your preferred choice of Birch/Shauna/Judge.

I would always play Super Scoop Up if playing Bats too, even though there are some decks where you don't really have to recycle them. Extra damage is always good, and it can also be used as a switching card or to remove a heavily damaged Sceptile if you find yourself in a situation where that comes in handy. You may want to try a 4-3-2 Crobat line instead of 3-3-3.

-1 Spinarak
-1 Ariados
-2 Grass Energy
-1 Wally
-1 Steven
-1 Crobat

+1 Sycamore
+1 Birch/Shauna/Judge
+4 Super Scoop Up
+1 Zubat

Even still, 5 (6 if you count Giovanni's) draw supporters is really low with no Shaymin. 3 Trainers' Mail and 6 ball search cards will help but you may need more.

 

[Fouda]

You should run Forest of the Giant Plants IMO. Silent Lab shuts off all abilities including that of your ariados. Also take out Steven. It's a waste of a supporter when you could add in something much more useful such as another AZ. Especially if you are running bats you will need a way to pick them up so that you can replace them and reuse their abilities for chip damage. With forest of giants plants in you could probably take out Wally as well. IMHO switch is better than an escape rope because you don't give your opponent an opportunity to place out one of there big attackers

 

[MagmaDragon]

Thanks,because I'm pretty much new here I didn't know where to ask so thanks for that and the answers . I should leave Wally to the expanded to deal with archeopes but for standard I'll replace it. And I foolishly forgot to put in my super scoop up! (Dear Arceus that's way the deck gets so stuck)

You should run Forest of the Giant Plants IMO. Silent Lab shuts off all abilities including that of your ariados. Also take out Steven. It's a waste of a supporter when you could add in something much more useful such as another AZ. Especially if you are running bats you will need a way to pick them up so that you can replace them and reuse their abilities for chip damage. With forest of giants plants in you could probably take out Wally as well. IMHO switch is better than an escape rope because you don't give your opponent an opportunity to place out one of there big attackers

First of all - what is IMHO/IMO? Second of all,silent lab only blocks the ability of basic pokemon in play and ariados is a stage 1 pokemon. About the forest of giant plants - its not useful in this deck - mainly because I don't rely on evolving every grass type pokemon on the first turn since Sceptile needs two energies to attack anyway. Thank you for your feedback anyway.

 

[Fouda]

First of all - what is IMHO/IMO? Second of all,silent lab only blocks the ability of basic pokemon in play and ariados is a stage 1 pokemon. About the forest of giant plants - its not useful in this deck - mainly because I don't rely on evolving every grass type pokemon on the first turn since Sceptile needs two energies to attack anyway. Thank you for your feedback anyway.

IMHO - In My Honest Opinion. IMO - In My Opinion
You are correct I quickly skimmed silent lab and did not closely read it so I apologize. Well whatever stadium you do decide to run you should add in more. I know I personally run 4 stadiums in my decks and I think most people run 3. If nothing else you should run more to eliminate your opponents stadium. Perhaps Paint Roller? I run that in one of my decks that doesn't really have a good stadium pairing with it