Scizor Prime Combos (States, Senior) Edited

[meisadude]

I have been running this deck (will post shortly) because of its speed and power. However, I'm not sure if this is best combo for Scizor, and would like to make a better deck for speed donking.

Pokemon = 21
4 Scyther UD
4 Scizor Prime UD
4 Eevee (2 MD, 2 RR)
3 Umbreon (2 UD, 1 MD)
1 Espeon Prime
1 Unown (DARK)
1 Unown (?)
2 Uxie (LA)
1 Azelf (LA)

T/S/S = 25
1 Burned tower
1 Conductive Quarry
1 Ruins of Alph
3 Seeker
3 Bebe's Search
2 Judge
2 Pokemon Collector
2 Pokemon Communication
1 Fisherman
2 Expert Belt
2 Black Belt
2 Twins
2 Flower Shop Lady
1 Interviewers Questions

Energy = 14
4 special metal
4 special dark
4 metal
2 dark

The two UD Umbreon are for invincibility against most primes and X's with moonlight fang. Scizor is a speed tank (130 with 2 metal, e. belt and b. belt).
The rest are techs. Like i said earlier, I want to know if this is a good combo for Scizor, or if there is a better one I should do. I'm looking forward to getting atleast 3rd in cities.

 

[The Yoshi]

RE: Scizor Prime Combos (States, Senior)

Umbreon Prime is very tacky in this deck. It doesn't make sense, when for 3 energy, you would hit for a max of 90. That being said, you should be having a max of 1 Umbreon UD ready on the bench, so I would take out the Prime and the MD. Even with Moonlight Fang, you are not invincible against Lv.X's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the base stage(for example, Glaceon) has no Powers or bodies, it can still attack you. This goes for Lux X and Chomp X(its bases have no powers or bodies).

 

[meisadude]

RE: Scizor Prime Combos (States, Senior)

Never thought about the base stages being able to attack... so what do you suggest?

 

[The Yoshi]

RE: Scizor Prime Combos (States, Senior)

What do I suggest? Well, the answer is in your title. You better know that Luxchomp will have some trouble with Scizor. No DCE, no Call, no nothing. Basic energies will take more than a turn to work, and once they discard them, they use Aaron's once, and most good players only use one. PM me and I will show you my list.

 

[generalv]

@yoshidude
wouldnt they have to level down the lux and chomp in order to attack?
so their pokemon wouldnt beable to level up

 

[Chemical]

Now I may read Flowershop wrong, but I think it's 3 basic pokemon correct? If so switch one out for a Palmer's and take out the other one and a fisherman. Switch a Burned tower for a Conductive Quarry, and switch out the horrible Unown ? and Espeon Prime for 4 Jirachi
so basically
-2 Flower Shop lady(If they only grab basic pokemon, but if they grab Stage 1's to then you just need one)
-1 Fisherman
-1 Espeon prime
-1 Unown ?
-1 Burned Tower
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+1 Palmer's Contribution (See flower Shop lady note)
+1 Conductive Quarry (To have a better chance in drawing into it and getting Sp. metals back)
+4 Jirachi RR (Let them kill this and then use it's power to grab a Twins, send another one up use Twins for 2 cards and then Detour for another 2 with another Jirachi, plus this well help get your Black belt's activated.)

Edit: Heck if you get rid of the Espeon might aswell get rid of an Eeve, add in from the Eevee either a Twins, black belt, or keep the Flower Shop lady.

 

[scizorlicious]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the base stage(for example, Glaceon) has no Powers or bodies, it can still attack you. This goes for Lux X and Chomp X(its bases have no powers or bodies).

I'm 99% sure that's incorrect, since it counts as the same Pokémon.
And the point isn't to deal damage, it's to lock. Umbreon is possibly the best combo for Scizor if you choose to run any combo, because either one can lock. It looks like a good decklist to me.

 

[The Yoshi]

@Chemical: It reads 3 Pokemon, but Palmer's is definitely more versatile, and I somewht agree with the Jirachi.

@Scizorliscious: Wait, are you serious? I lost a game because this person was using Glaceon X and the judge said she could attack with Glaceon against my Umbreon.

 

[meisadude]

Awesome. Thanks for the help guys!

 

[Phailsaphe]

All Lv. X pokemon are treated as the same pokemon they were leveled up from. Even if a prior form did not have a power or body, the new Lv. X does, which means it cannot attack Umbreon. That said, it is the LV. X performing the attack, which means moonlight fang WILL protect umbreon.

For further reference, you can go here:
http://compendium.pokegym.net/compendium-lvx.html#92

Find the section "Leveling Up", and consult the 4th question under that heading.


You did in fact, lose that match because of a judge's error.

 

[The Yoshi]

Umm, like... GRRRRRR! Whatever. I ended up making top cut anyway. But thanks for the cleraing up.