hey wait if serperior is released and also used as a tech where does that put nidoqueen? in the trash? i mean really nidoqueen has 3 retreat and serperior can be Qed so... pokemon gets better and better
Serperior + Reuniclus (Next Set) and Ability discussion
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It could put them side by side; note how you can only use one Maternal Comfort pokebody? It stacks with Serperior, giving you even more healing. If Nidoqueen doesn't rotate I see this having a lot of potential in a tanking deck.
Maybe Magnezone ISN'T going to be as bad an idea post-rotation as I thought...that said, I don't see many tank decks having a good Lostgar matchup. Maybe you should focus on an off-colour main attacker, enough search to get it out, and go to work that way? Other than Tyranitar (too slow, too energy intensive) and Mandibuzz (very awesome but situational) what's good in Dark? We could also use something like Donphan Prime with its poke-body for extra awesome tanking, and the earthquake damage is less relevant. Anything that can load up with special metals is also an option, but whatever we do NEEDS to be able to beat hard enough to stop lostgar in the _early_ game - not after we've got all this healing crap set up, but bringing the beats right off.
Maybe Magnezone ISN'T going to be as bad an idea post-rotation as I thought...that said, I don't see many tank decks having a good Lostgar matchup. Maybe you should focus on an off-colour main attacker, enough search to get it out, and go to work that way? Other than Tyranitar (too slow, too energy intensive) and Mandibuzz (very awesome but situational) what's good in Dark? We could also use something like Donphan Prime with its poke-body for extra awesome tanking, and the earthquake damage is less relevant. Anything that can load up with special metals is also an option, but whatever we do NEEDS to be able to beat hard enough to stop lostgar in the _early_ game - not after we've got all this healing crap set up, but bringing the beats right off.
Serperior and Reuniclus sound great together, but it seems like it would require alot of setup. Perhaps in a slower format it'll be viable.
Its to slow. setting up 2 stage 2s
^Tell that to Vilegar. Just run Spiritomb AR in this deck.
This deck would possibly have trouble with magnezone; taking 150 damage to knock you out and not giving you a chance to heal. However, due to having 130 hp, if you have 3 serperiors out (which isn't too hard) you can heal more than most ttackers in the metagame can do.
against magnezone use shaymin lv.x (ground) and expert belt to have massive hp and 80 damage aint bad
I feel like Serperior needs to be the main attacker, otherwise the deck gets too messy. If you run enough rescue energies, you may be able to keep resetting serperior to the point where they run out of energies. In this format the addition of landmin lv X helps with that because it forces them to spend an extra energy to kill you. In the future, hope for another crazy grass tech. Also, maybe sunflora for consistency??? Just some ideas
Serperior falls short as a main attacker. There is a deck in the Garage using Zekrom, which could definitely be a good choice for this strategy. Also perhaps Abomasnow (SF?), Garchomp SV, Glaceon SV (With the LV. X would be even better), Probopass LA, Rampardos PL, and Tangrowth AR (I know I already mentioned it -- it's just so amazing with this combo! =P)
Pokemunkulys said:
Tangrowth could be cool, but on of his as well as serperior's main problems is charizard (permitting he stays in format) as well as Reshiram. Both can one shot. The bigger problem, however, is Reuniclus only having 90 HP with pokemon catcher coming into format. He is a relatively easy OHKO for most decks and losing him breaks your damage lock (totally what it should be called).
Well Charizard and Tangrowth are in the same set, but there's always Exploud (Or Metapod (Or Vileplume)) and I can't really see Reshiram seeing play. And of course Azelf LV. X for Reuniclus...but how efficient is making half your deck weakness counters? Hmmm...
Damage lock! Nice. We should call it Grosslock instead...
EDIT: Braviary (Wargle) could be a tech in a Zekrom deck with Grosslock just in case one faces a Machamp deck. Basically the same attack, just a bit weaker and all Colorless, with Fighting resistance to boot.
EDIT 2: EDIT Returns: Cradily LA is another possibility for a main attacker.
Damage lock! Nice. We should call it Grosslock instead...
EDIT: Braviary (Wargle) could be a tech in a Zekrom deck with Grosslock just in case one faces a Machamp deck. Basically the same attack, just a bit weaker and all Colorless, with Fighting resistance to boot.
EDIT 2: EDIT Returns: Cradily LA is another possibility for a main attacker.
Pokemunkulys said:
I dunno about the Reshiram thing. PokemanDan was hyping it. A 130 HP basic working as a main attacker could be pretty frightening.
I like this deck, but I feel like Reshiram could be viable next format. Only thing is it's kind of slow because it needs 2 stage 2's and another main attacker stage 1 or 2.
Or a Basic Main Attacker like, Oh, I don't know, Zekrom?
Pokemunkulys said:
Keep in mind you wouldn't be able to spread the 40 damage he does to himself since it is part of an attack. So he would have 100 hp at the start of their turn. Not sure if that is enough...
Blaziken FB LV.X could be used to take out Serperior. 130 + 120=250 jet shoot 80x2=160. does a lot of damage
yes yes, i have been planing on this combo ever since the japan scans, deck list is in garage too but finding a good attacker, other than Zekrom, is a little tuff. but to tech against the hyped fire decks you could put in Exploud to get rid of all weakness. to help out reuniclis stack in some expert belts. Poke catcher isnt in the new set so reuniclis will be somewhat safe. but i do realize after rotation all of this, exploud and belts and things, will be gone city. then itll be back to the drawing board