Shop Reputation System?

LuckyLuigi7

LuckyLuigi7

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For the fan creations forum, I was wondering if there should be some type of reputation system for what people think of their banners or artwork they were given by a shop thread. They could give positive or negative feedback on what they recieved, and if they got their banner or avatar at all. I know it probably not needed considering you could tell the person right on thread, but you could do it for DP and for TCG as well. You could just have each gallery have it's own reputation thread and members could post their feedback. That's about it really, but it could be an effective way to let each clan know what they should be doing to draw more buisness in the future. Tell me what you think, and if it isn't a good idea, I don't mind. I was just brainstorming. :)

-LL7
 
I had an idea of this several months back.
It was turned down.
However, I still think it's a great idea.
 
Oh, really? That's cool. :)

This idea could also set an example to other members wanting to make a shop. They would develop the important guidelines for their shop after hearing the negative feedback about some of the unsuccessful shops, and see what not to do. ;)
 
I think the system would work.
It would help new members or old members find what shop has gotten the most postive reps.
That way it would be easier to find a shop to request in.
of course the system has it's flaws.
 
One MAJOR flaw I see in this is the fact that people who have the most refs. would be recieving a ton of business and soon the one with the most refs. would be the last one standing. People could also just play "Favorites" and pick the user they "Favor" the most.
 
Yeah... That is the problem...

We just need to not be biased, but... That just won't happen...

Would we be able to rule out the flaws in any way? I'm not sure. Let's see what other members or moderators think about it. There are both positive and negative points about this system. :)
 
Firstly, we can't have two rep systems at the same time.

Secondly, it's very easily abused.

Thirdly, it is unreliable as it is subjective.

Fourthly, everyone's shop dies and new ones come.

Fifthly, feedback comes in words, not +1 and -1.
 
Yeah, true...

Well, this idea is not going to work unfortunately because this will be more abused than any other reputation system on this forum. My only other idea is that we have a thread where you can report negative feedback about a clan's unreliability but that is all I can think of. :)
 
If we can get some sort of system, not necessarily reputation, but some system in the Celadon mart there may be able to keep shops alive, or at least take out generic shops. It would clear things up and give active shops more of a chance. Right now about 20 shops offer the exact same thing, it would be nice to have a shop approval system making sure shops offer unique things, whether it be regarding style or product. I suppose it wouldn't be as open but it would definitely clear up the system as the Celadon Mart specifically is a bit of a mess, very cluttered.The fan creations section could use a little work, now that the clans and clubs section is becoming more under control maybe it could get some attention. Anyway I am just thinking out loud, hopefully some of my thoughts are worth while.
 
What about something like the trading refs were them patron leaves a copy of the artwork and what they thought of it with the thread the shops name
 
Noobnerd just read my mind. >.>

We couldn't do a shop reputation system, simply because it will just kill new shops, which will discourage aspiring artists. How will it kill new shops? Easy, people would request from the shop with the most reputation, thus, leaving no work for the new ones, WHICH will lead to dead threads. How will this discourage new artists? Simple, won't you be sad when no one posts in a thread you made? Also, they would think they suck at art, making them quit because of having no talent with it.

Another flaw, would be massive requests to the shop that has the most reputation. Why? It'll just tire it's workers, leading to them posting something like "No requests until we are open!", what if they never open again? We just lost a good shop.

If you put that all together:
Once there is a closed shop, who will make another when all the new artists have been discouraged?
No one. We have lost new artists, old shops and a forum.

To make this system a reality, we must think about all the flaws, and rule them out.
 
Moneyking63 said:
If we can get some sort of system, not necessarily reputation, but some system in the Celadon mart there may be able to keep shops alive, or at least take out generic shops. It would clear things up and give active shops more of a chance. Right now about 20 shops offer the exact same thing, it would be nice to have a shop approval system making sure shops offer unique things, whether it be regarding style or product. I suppose it wouldn't be as open but it would definitely clear up the system as the Celadon Mart specifically is a bit of a mess, very cluttered. The fan creations section could use a little work, now that the clans and clubs section is becoming more under control maybe it could get some attention.
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I think we should have two things:

Shop Guide- Some type of guide that will help a shop owner create a successful shop with tips from George2FRESH or another major Pokebeach shop owner. It could feature tips for art-making programs as well as just the obvious rules for creating a shop. :)

Small System- I think if we have a system, it should only be a thread where they approve the member who wants to make the shop and see if they are responsible enough for the job. Also, the thread can take any complaints if they did not get the work that expected or any work at all. It would not be a reputation system. It would just let the shops know if they are doing their jobs efficiently. ;)

^ Tell me what you think about this?
 
I agree with NN and BJ.

A reputation system would give members another chance to threaten new and old artists with "What if this was ebay?" stuff they were saying in Darkrai1246's shop and past shops. It will greatly discourage new artists that they received a negative because they were late due to supper or because someone asked them to do something they couldn't or didn't want to do. As G2F said, we, the artists and shop owners, make art for you because we want to help you and because we like art. We could just not do it, and keep and use our unique skills for our own benefit.


Does it matter if the shop owner is irresponsible? People who want to get art usally look around in the shops, and if they find a style they like, they make a request.
 
Eh, I guess. It's because a forum is not run like ebay, and you actually are risking something when you trade on DP and TCG, and all you do is fill-out a form whtn you want artwork. If they do not give you what you want, you look for another shop that will offer you what you want. So it's basically not something any thread can control. I do think we should have a guide though that can set down a good set of tips that will help a shop get more buisness and what to look for when you're looking for a shop to order from. :)
 
EDIT: No. Sorry. A approval system for shops would suck. My first shop would of never been approved because I didn't even know what a recolor was and my examples were bad, but I learned through my mistakes and eventually met up with B-Ray who helped me learn more about art. The Elite is currently working on new projects to help teach beginning artists.

We already have a shop guide.
 
Yeah, that is true. Members can become amazing with their shops and banners through other people's help, and an approval system would just give each member a lasting reputation. But I think a guide would be a good idea. What do you think, Pheonix? You have some important points. :)
 
Eh....I suppose. It could have commonly used terms, examples, and tips. I might come to the chat later today, we can discuss it there on PM.
 
Ok, cool. I think one of the most talented and most professional shop owners should create it because he/she has the expertise, but yes, we'll discuss it on the chat later. :)
 
LuckyLuigi7 said:
I think we should have two things:

Shop Guide- Some type of guide that will help a shop owner create a successful shop with tips from George2FRESH or another major Pokebeach shop owner. It could feature tips for art-making programs as well as just the obvious rules for creating a shop. :)

Small System- I think if we have a system, it should only be a thread where they approve the member who wants to make the shop and see if they are responsible enough for the job. Also, the thread can take any complaints if they did not get the work that expected or any work at all. It would not be a reputation system. It would just let the shops know if they are doing their jobs efficiently. ;)

^ Tell me what you think about this?
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We already have a shop guide. >_<

I have it built into the Shop Library, so thus if that isn't helping and if needed I could turn it into an approval system, but still the shop that makes the better artwork no matter how many I approve are just going to be taking over the shops.
 
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