magnazone doesn't work with empoleon, registeel could work but mainly when you have piplups in play, with the water one we'll have crasher blake and aqua patch so...
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It's a good one or two-of in Empoleon. Glaceon isn't your greatest matchup, and Koko kind of just backhands you, and you should already be playing Counter Energy in Empoleon. I Don't see Crasher Wake helping in the slightest, since I would think Empoleon wouldn't play more than 7 basic Water, so getting 2 of them, AND Wake in your hand all at the same time seem pretty unlikely. Then again, with all the consistency this format has to offer, I could easily be proven wrong as easily as I can be proven right.
This was mostly do disprove the statement that metal has no acceleration. Registeel/magnezone arent good with metal empoleon really, i was just talking about the amount of energy acceleration has.
You would be losing out on damage, but you could just attach the Metal Frying Pan to that Empoleon. That way, it has no weakness and takes 30 less damage, putting it up at 190 for a one-shot.
plus you can bench dhelmise for extra damage
Metal, metal, metal.
OP, OP, OP.
ANNOYING, ANNOYING, ANNOYING.
OP, OP, OP.
ANNOYING, ANNOYING, ANNOYING.
Your honor, I can see what you mean about the one supporter per turn issue, and I can see that as a predicament to be feared. However, instead of playing Sycamore or N or the upcoming Cynthia to try and draw what you need, you can use Wake to find any two cards you need flawlessly instead of gambling with Sycamore and the like. If you don’t need anything in particular, sure, use N and Sycamore. But in a clutch moment, Wake can win the game. Need a Field Blower to discard a Fighting Fury Belt to hit KO? Wake. Need a Choice Band to hit for KO? Wake. In clutch moments and pivot moments, Wake does lots, but when strobe searching, Sycamore and N help more. It all depends on situation, but I think water decks should alWAKEs keep a Wake or two handy.
PUNS!
Oh...yay... more metal...
So which one will be printed in English?
Young Nobleman, I also see your point however, he can only be used as a water tech, as I don't believe you can use Rainbow Energy, as 2 Water to use this card's ability, and if you can, well that's another story altogether.
If you can't use 2 Rainbow for discard, this card has an extremely limited amount of use.
Rainbow Energy only counts as every type of Energy while attached to a Pokemon. Same goes for Splash Energy, so neither of them work with Wake.
Both. But only water in Ultra Prism, we'll get the metal one in the May set.
Thank you for the clarification, forgot that simpleton rule, lol.
- Metal Empoleon - 4 Geodudes. Beside of having a good attack that KOs everything if both parties have full bench, it got access to Registeel, Mt. Coronet, and Dhelmise, but not as great as the Water One. The Water one has Wake and Aqua Patch, and Brooket Hill (well for the Piplups).
or as a promo like Lucario-GX which is in SM5+
This makes me so mad. They broke Gardy, so now they're throwing metal support everywhere, even to the point where they have to use a FRYING PAN. In trying to control Gardy, they're breaking metal, and if Pokemon isn't careful, they're going to have to get some fire out there. Unless, of course, metal is shielding themselves with their cooking utensils. 
As for the Empoleon, it's just awesome. Except for typing.
As for the Empoleon, it's just awesome. Except for typing.
I'm hoping that, even with all the support, Gardevoir tops SOMETHING major, just to show TPCi that trying to shove a bunch of anti-support against an arguable BDIF is not how you balance a game.
...I'm also bitter because I just built Gardevoir not that long ago, but I'll pretend that I'm not.
-Asmer
...I'm also bitter because I just built Gardevoir not that long ago, but I'll pretend that I'm not.
-Asmer
... Why would it matter if it's Piplups or Empoleons? Registeel doesn't care either way as long as you're attaching basic M energy. Aqua Patch and Blake are good, no one is arguing that, but to say metal doesn't have acceleration is a bit silly.