So I saw this Mewtwo EX...

[numberonewill]

If someone has said this then dont pay attention. its an Orica, something to be used in place of Mewtwo Ex. Albeit you cant use it for tournament play, it can be used for casual play, and if allowed, league play. There are alot of oricas made for different card games out there, just check them out. Also, most oricas are hand made, its more or less artwork, like a painting.

 

[scuba steveE]

Your link is not an auction, and it is a WC card. Not legal, yes, but also official. I understand the seller is doing nothing wrong, all I'm saying is that he is selling the card knowing full well at least one person will think it's real. This is not something I would do. I would give the fake* card as a gift to my friend or something. Think about it. Mewtwo EX is getting extremely hyped, so anyone seeing a bid on one will bid on it. The seller is taking advantage of this hype and selling a fake* card. Again, I'm not saying he is doing anything wrong, I understand it is the buyer's responsibility.

*custom, fun, whatever you want to call it

How do you know? For all we know, all the people knew it wasn't real, but still thought it was really cool and they thought it was worth $50. If it's just a question of morals, then I get it. It's like a lawyer trying to get a know criminal off, it's morally wrong, but legally right. Still, you don't know what the buyers true intentions were, so you can't accuse him of anything. All you can do now is learn from it and to not let it happen to you.

 

[omahanime]

Your link is not an auction, and it is a WC card. Not legal, yes, but also official. I understand the seller is doing nothing wrong,

I was using that BIN as an example of more questionable activity.

all I'm saying is that he is selling the card knowing full well at least one person will think it's real. This is not something I would do.

The seller appears to make many "orica". He does list as an "orica". I had never seen the term "orica" before, but I do not believe, he was trying to mislead.

This is not something I would do. I would give the fake* card as a gift to my friend or something. Think about it. Mewtwo EX is getting extremely hyped, so anyone seeing a bid on one will bid on it. The seller is taking advantage of this hype and selling a fake* card. Again, I'm not saying he is doing anything wrong, I understand it is the buyer's responsibility.

When I do eBay search on Pokemon Mewtwo EX I get "86 results found for pokemon mewtwo ex". They all appear to be real cards, but it is possible for counterfeit cards to be listed because of the hype. Those counterfeit cards are the ones I am saving fake for. In those 86 listings there are older cards, Japanese cards and 54/99 Mewtwo-EX . If the buyer gets caught up in the hype and pays too much for one of those, is the seller at fault? What should the seller of the "orica" do? Say not legal for play? The sellers of the older cards, and Japanese cards would have to do the same thing.

Why the buyer paid too much? They caught up in the hype, but that happens on a daily basis on eBay. I have seen a seller be auctioning 2 of the same card, 1 goes for $30 the other goes for $15. I call that the buyers fault too. My view towards that is the similar as eBay's (my wife used to work for them) the seller did not use any false language in describing the item nor is it a copy of a real item, so it will be difficult to void the auction as fake. Chalk it up to buyer's regret.

Should the seller have use clearer language in describing the card? Yes, but many sellers do not understand the market and rules have to be simple and apply to everyone equally.

 

[Scolex]

I think these Orica cards are pretty amazing, Not $40 amazing, But I would buy some for maybe a few dollars, and really if you are going to pay $20+ for a card you would do research or just ask the seller about it, sadly eBay sides with the buyer most of the time, even if the seller is clear of what the item is so he probably gets a lot of complaints from oblivious people.

 

[omahanime]

I think these Orica cards are pretty amazing, Not $40 amazing, But I would buy some for maybe a few dollars, and really if you are going to pay $20+ for a card you would do research or just ask the seller about it,

Exactly.

sadly eBay sides with the buyer most of the time, even if the seller is clear of what the item is so he probably gets a lot of complaints from oblivious people.

If eBay did not side with seller unless fraud happened, many auctions would be canceled. I bought a card on eBay for a price I could live with, after buying someone from PokéBeach offered cheaper.

 

[Slowbro]

Those are good points. The seller is not doing anything illegal, no doubt about that, however he could be doing something morally wrong, or the buyer could just be oblivious. I just jumped to conclusions because I've been ripped off by actual fake cards before. Omahanime, thank you for pointing out to me that the seller isn't necessarily doing anything wrong, legal or moral. It guess it's just how you look at it.

 

[iisnumber12]

It says Custom in the title. Col, but obviously fake. Yeah, it's definitely "One of a Kind"

 

[omahanime]

I just jumped to conclusions because I've been ripped off by actual fake cards before.

That explains your point of view.

You can not educate the all the buyers. You can not educate the all the sellers. You can educate yourself.

 

[TokenDuelist]

There's a difference between Orica and Fake.

Also, the bidding just increases more and more. Oricas are an expensive process, so $10-$15 is usually the minimum because the artist makes no profit if it's less than $10.

To those of you arguing or feeling sorry for the people bidding, I just wanted to throw it out there that they are artists selling their art using Pokemon cards as the canvas. They aren't naming it fake or counterfeit, and they are usually made ON the Pokemon card itself. So think of it as a proxy with fancy art. I've begun making these myself too because they are just so much fun.

Though however if this person isn't the artist then they should seriously get a slap across the face for not using their own art.

On another note, it's nice to see Pokemon TCG fans FINALLY getting into the Orica stuff, I just hope some have the mentality to stop thinking "Fake Card, avoid avoid" when it comes to those who do draw their own art for Oricas.