BW/BW2 Something Strange...

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With more screenshots and trailers of the new Black & White games being leaked with brand new Pokemon it seems like there's none that contains Pokemon from previous Generations other than Celebi, Raikou, Entei, and Suicune.

Also how come the info regarding the Transfer Machine's is semi-confirmed as If nobody knows for sure If the Transfer Machine thing really will work like Pal Park or not. Is it that the info regarding the Transfer Machine was a false rumor?

This is starting to make me believe that these new Generation 5 games will be exclusive to that Generation minus the Johto Legends. It's almost starting to seem like Game Freak is doing the same thing they did with Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald where they weren't backwards compatible with Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal.

It was understandable due to technology reasons, but what I'm trying to get at is how does Nintendo
and Game Freak expect to make any money off of Black & White If it's not compatible in any way shape or form with Diamond/Pearl/Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver?
 
Card Slinger J said:
With more screenshots and trailers of the new Black & White games being leaked with brand new Pokemon it seems like there's none that contains Pokemon from previous Generations other than Celebi, Raikou, Entei, and Suicune.

Also how come the info regarding the Transfer Machine's is semi-confirmed as If nobody knows for sure If the Transfer Machine thing really will work like Pal Park or not. Is it that the info regarding the Transfer Machine was a false rumor?

This is starting to make me believe that these new Generation 5 games will be exclusive to that Generation minus the Johto Legends. It's almost starting to seem like Game Freak is doing the same thing they did with Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald where they weren't backwards compatible with Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal.

It was understandable due to technology reasons, but what I'm trying to get at is how does Nintendo
and Game Freak expect to make any money off of Black & White If it's not compatible in any way shape or form with Diamond/Pearl/Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver?
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It has already been confirmed these games are backwards compatible. The Transfer machine is real, the only reason a lot hasn't been shown on it is because there are more pressing matters to attend too.

The games are for the DS and DSi, trading is allowed. And even if you eventually play one of these games on the 3DS you can still trade. It has a slot for 3DS cards and DS cards too.

All is fine in pokemon BW concerning trading.
 
SQUIRTLETamer08 said:
It has already been confirmed these games are backwards compatible. The Transfer machine is real, the only reason a lot hasn't been shown on it is because there are more pressing matters to attend too.

The games are for the DS and DSi, trading is allowed. And even if you eventually play one of these games on the 3DS you can still trade. It has a slot for 3DS cards and DS cards too.

All is fine in pokemon BW concerning trading.
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But I thought trading with previous Gens wasn't allowed and that the only way to transfer Pokemon from Gen IV onto Gen V was like Pal Park and you can't reverse the process.

Which is it? Also what kind of pressing matters are there? How would you like it If a years worth spent on building a solid Pokemon team couldn't be carried over to the new games? All that work and effort for nothing?
 
Card Slinger J said:
But I thought trading with previous Gens wasn't allowed and that the only way to transfer Pokemon from Gen IV onto Gen V was like Pal Park and you can't reverse the process.

Which is it? Also what kind of pressing matters are there? How would you like it If a years worth spent on building a solid Pokemon team couldn't be carried over to the new games? All that work and effort for nothing?
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No the Transfer thing was mentioned, in June, technically the July, issue. I always considered Pal Park trading anyways.
It has yet to be confirmed exactly what the machine does, but it does involve some movement of pokemon from game to game. It could let you just send pokemon over from other games, or trade with anyone.

I would believe since some DSi owners do not have a way to do Pal Park now, the machine will be like the FRLG machine. It will be interesting to see what the 3DS does to all of this, with it having two game slots. When the 3rd game of the BW series comes out a Pal park like situation will most likely occur.

My bet's are that the Transfer machine is for global trading (along with the GTS) and there will also be a Pal Park.

If for some reason the games were not backwards compatible? 3 words- get over it. Those that played the original GSC no that only too well.
Question: who spends a year working on their pokemon team? That should take no less than 2 weeks, if that, EV's included. You would have plenty opportunity to make a whole new one in BW.
Being overly attached to a piece of data is not good. Not saying you are, just talking in general terms.

As for the pressing matters which were more important? Just to name a few, region map, starters, regional legendaries, new gameplay, etc.

Don't fret, you will be able to trade back and forth between BW and all 4th generation games. Of course you can't trade back 5th gen pokemon or 1st-4th gen pokemon with a new move. But I am sure you already new that.
 
How do you think you get Zoroark and Zorua? By trading pokemon that are being released now from your Gen VI game to your Gen V game.
 
SQUIRTLETamer08 said:
If for some reason the games were not backwards compatible? 3 words- get over it. Those that played the original GSC no that only too well.
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Yeah but like I said that was due to technological issues with the original Gameboy and the Gameboy Advance, there wasn't enough memory and data on the game cartridges to compensate backwards compatibility back then.

Gee you tell me to get over it like all that training and work with a Pokemon team was for nothing? Perhaps but it takes the fun away from the game IMO. :/

SQUIRTLETamer08 said:
Question: who spends a year working on their pokemon team? That should take no less than 2 weeks, if that, EV's included. You would have plenty opportunity to make a whole new one in BW.
Being overly attached to a piece of data is not good. Not saying you are, just talking in general terms.
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What I should've said earlier in terms of training a Pokemon team would be about 1 or 2 months maybe a week or two. Sure there will be an oppurtunity to make a new team on BW but it just wouldn't feel right being on a completely clean slate having to train Pokemon that you might not like.

With the way Nintendo and Game Freak is going they haven't disappointed me yet, they've done good with the Gen IV games lets see If they can follow up with the Gen V games as well. If not then it would most likely ruin the aspect of Wi-Fi battles especially on YouTube.

People wouldn't be able to battle with their favorite Pokemon from previous Generations unless said otherwise. The reason why Pokemon is so popular is also a part of nostalgia factor especially with the release of HeartGold and SoulSilver, people want to be able to train with and battle with Pokemon they fell in love with years ago.

SQUIRTLETamer08 said:
As for the pressing matters which were more important? Just to name a few, region map, starters, regional legendaries, new gameplay, etc.

Don't fret, you will be able to trade back and forth between BW and all 4th generation games. Of course you can't trade back 5th gen pokemon or 1st-4th gen pokemon with a new move. But I am sure you already new that.
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Well I guess only time will tell won't it? I'd be very disappointed If that weren't the case.
 
Card Slinger J said:
With more screenshots and trailers of the new Black & White games being leaked with brand new Pokemon it seems like there's none that contains Pokemon from previous Generations other than Celebi, Raikou, Entei, and Suicune.

Also how come the info regarding the Transfer Machine's is semi-confirmed as If nobody knows for sure If the Transfer Machine thing really will work like Pal Park or not. Is it that the info regarding the Transfer Machine was a false rumor?

This is starting to make me believe that these new Generation 5 games will be exclusive to that Generation minus the Johto Legends. It's almost starting to seem like Game Freak is doing the same thing they did with Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald where they weren't backwards compatible with Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal.

It was understandable due to technology reasons, but what I'm trying to get at is how does Nintendo
and Game Freak expect to make any money off of Black & White If it's not compatible in any way shape or form with Diamond/Pearl/Platinum/HeartGold/SoulSilver?
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then that would be cool, though I also want to see pokemon from past gens.

but I really don't like new pre-evo and evos of past pokemon, so I guess having a new set exclusive in this new region would be awesome
 
It has been confirmed backwards compatable, how else would you transfer the three beasts and celebi? Also, they never showed screenshots of old Pokemon in Diamond and Pearl either, and people got scared that they would only have new Pokemon. Just relax, it's not Pokemon without old Pokemon, why do you think they include them in other games?
 
There are some previous gen pokemon in it already... Celebi, Raikou, Suicune, Entei, (In a new scan) Pikachu... There's probably more, so, I wouldn't
be worrying about it.. :D

Actually, Serebii now says "It appears that you have the ability to capture pokemon not in the isshu dex within the global link and have them transferred back to your game."

See? Don't worry, guys!! ^^
 
Wait...Just confirmed now was that in the Global Link, you can catch Pokemon from previous generations.
 
But how does the Global Link work? Is it like GTS in the previous games? This sucks cause I'm used to transferring my Pokemon without having to use GTS (Global Trade Station).

When they say that you can catch Pokemon from previous Generations does that mean you can transfer Pokemon from the old games or are they completely new as wild Pokemon? If they're completely new wild Pokemon instead of your trained ones that's really gonna suck big time.

Like I wanted to transfer some Lv. 100 Pokemon onto Black & White and it looks like I can't. The Global Link seems to be the only way to transfer Pokemon from previous games unless it's the Transfer Machine is an Online Only feature.

So basically what I'm getting at is that backwards compatibility is now Online Only instead of not having to use the internet to do it? Wow, Game Freak and Nintendo pulled another Gen III... that's just great! -___-
 
Card Slinger J said:
But how does the Global Link work? Is it like GTS in the previous games? This sucks cause I'm used to transferring my Pokemon without having to use GTS (Global Trade Station).
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I'd love if this was a feature (but also have the possibility to trade between two ds)....I only have one ds and nobody I knows plays pokemon so transfering pokemon is going to be a real pain. It would be great to have some way to transfer between games without needing another ds...

I'm not sure if it would be possible though.....wouldn't they have to have a feature in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl that allowed you to upload your pokemon to this new website so you could transfer it to Pokemon Black/White through the GTS/website....and I don't think it'll have that (unless it involves that mystery item nobody know's what it's for)

I guess I'll be forced to ask to borrow my 11 year old neighbors ds lite instead. My mum is good friends with her mum though so it might be possible to borrow it for a few hours...awkward though. :(
 
It's been confirmed you can move your Pokemon over from 4th gen to 5th gen. Whether or not it works in reverse (obviously for 4th gen-compatible Pokemon) remains to be seen.

There's no reason for this thread to stay open. We'll find out when we find out.
 
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