What's better. SP Pokemon or evolution Pokemon.
SP or evolution
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right now i think evolution decks have a slight advantage if properly built. the sp guys are great because they are fast to set up (cyrus and sp radar is a fantastic engine) and generally disruptive but they have a couple of major counters (machamp and mewtwo level x) to contend with. the evolution decks have the wicked powerful combination of BTS, SSU and claydol right now with SSU and BTS providing fantastic recovery. of course it all depends on hitting those SSU flips.
i say SP's... even though stage 2 decks won 2/3 divisions at nats, in masters T4 it was all SP, in senios T4, it was 3 SP, 1 gengar (that won 
) in juniors i think it was mostly machamp, but that's juniors. SP's are just really fast and can be teched to beat almost any matchup.
) in juniors i think it was mostly machamp, but that's juniors. SP's are just really fast and can be teched to beat almost any matchup.blue . Yeh as he said they both are great, its like speed vs strength. They are both needed in a fight and so are needed in a pokemon TCG battle
. Yeh as he said they both are great, its like speed vs strength. They are both needed in a fight and so are needed in a pokemon TCG battle
d master342 said:
I agree, Mother Gengar decks will be around longer when Gengar X comes out
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You seem to make very interesting threads.
It depends on what you mean.
Sps have stuff like Poketurn and Gain that normals don't have.
Normals have the anti-donk benifet.
It really depends on the indivisuall card, since both types are frequently played.
It depends on what you mean.
Sps have stuff like Poketurn and Gain that normals don't have.
Normals have the anti-donk benifet.
It really depends on the indivisuall card, since both types are frequently played.
^^ as said above. Sps are very fast, but then we also have evolution lines that are incredibly fast(speedrill, speedra, rampchamp, machamp, ramparados) so its very even balanced. Both are great, but SPs are tougher to use it seems.
SP pokemon rock!
Evolutions have BTS, Evoluter and Rare Candy, SPs have pretty much every other Trainer/Supporter/Stadium that's been released the past few sets. You pick.
Basically, it's picking between a 20-50 HP and sometimes attack bonus and a whole lot of speed and versatility.
Basically, it's picking between a 20-50 HP and sometimes attack bonus and a whole lot of speed and versatility.
most of the players who were highly rated *before* Nats dropped to after a loss or two in order to preserve their invites to Worlds. from what i saw most of them were playing evolution decks (GG/Weavile, Flygon, etc.). the people who played to the end were all trying to win their way in. so be it that included a lot of sp decks.DarthPika said:revdjweb said:
If evolution decks are really better, then please explain the top cut at US nats being almost 100% SP?
revdjweb said:most of the players who were highly rated *before* Nats dropped to after a loss or two in order to preserve their invites to Worlds. from what I saw most of them were playing evolution decks (GG/Weavile, Flygon, etc.). the people who played to the end were all trying to win their way in. so be it that included a lot of sp decks.DarthPika said:revdjweb said:
If evolution decks are really better, then please explain the top cut at US nats being almost 100% SP?
Actually, from what I saw all the evo decks were getting beat up pretty badly that day. Perhaps that's why they lost? ;P
Darth Pika, I don't think 100% of the decks in top cut were SPs. Not even close.
1 Thomas A- Gengar/Luxray
2 Aylam R- Mother Gengar
3 Jason C- Gechamp
4 Alex M- Aperay
5 Grafton R- Flygon/Weavile
6 Aaron H- GGvile
7 Michael Z- Mother Gengar
8 Kevin C- AMU
9 Nathaniel L-Flygon
10 Ankur P- Dialga G
11 Jacob T- Dialga G
12 Jason A- Mother Gengar
13 Alexander B- GG w/ Gengar
14 Aziz A- Flygon/Weavile
15 Michael B- GG
16 kevin a- Palkia Lock
17 Samuel L- Mother Gengar
18 Kennan M- Beedrill
19 Jonathan B- Gengar
20 Austin Z- Aperay
21 Eric W- Gechamp
22 Robert C- Beedrill
23 Alec N- Mother Gengar
24 Eleki R- Gallade 4
25 Michael D- Gechamp
26 James H- Mother Gengar
27 Quinn D- Regigigas
28 Lloyd W- Dialga/Gallade/Honchkrow
29 Jarret A- Mother Gengar
30 Spencer B- Mother Gengar
31 Geoffrey S- Aperay
32 Christian H- Aperay
That's 10 SP decks.
10/32= 31%
All in all, SP decks tend to be great in the early game, but seem to run out of steam later (Legos can't seem to get enough energy attached between Dialga and Palkia and once Luxape runs out of Energy Gain it also seems to start to run low on energy from Infernape's discarding. Stage 2 decks don't run out of steam, but they tend to be less flexible and a bit slower in setup (setting up 3 energy on a Flygon, getting 4 Beedrill out, getting Gengar and Nidoqueen out, etc.) There really isn't a better choice.
1 Thomas A- Gengar/Luxray
2 Aylam R- Mother Gengar
3 Jason C- Gechamp
4 Alex M- Aperay
5 Grafton R- Flygon/Weavile
6 Aaron H- GGvile
7 Michael Z- Mother Gengar
8 Kevin C- AMU
9 Nathaniel L-Flygon
10 Ankur P- Dialga G
11 Jacob T- Dialga G
12 Jason A- Mother Gengar
13 Alexander B- GG w/ Gengar
14 Aziz A- Flygon/Weavile
15 Michael B- GG
16 kevin a- Palkia Lock
17 Samuel L- Mother Gengar
18 Kennan M- Beedrill
19 Jonathan B- Gengar
20 Austin Z- Aperay
21 Eric W- Gechamp
22 Robert C- Beedrill
23 Alec N- Mother Gengar
24 Eleki R- Gallade 4
25 Michael D- Gechamp
26 James H- Mother Gengar
27 Quinn D- Regigigas
28 Lloyd W- Dialga/Gallade/Honchkrow
29 Jarret A- Mother Gengar
30 Spencer B- Mother Gengar
31 Geoffrey S- Aperay
32 Christian H- Aperay
That's 10 SP decks.
10/32= 31%
All in all, SP decks tend to be great in the early game, but seem to run out of steam later (Legos can't seem to get enough energy attached between Dialga and Palkia and once Luxape runs out of Energy Gain it also seems to start to run low on energy from Infernape's discarding. Stage 2 decks don't run out of steam, but they tend to be less flexible and a bit slower in setup (setting up 3 energy on a Flygon, getting 4 Beedrill out, getting Gengar and Nidoqueen out, etc.) There really isn't a better choice.