According to source code on the starter pages on the Japanese website, the types for the evolution line of Popplio and Litten have been leaked.
These being
fire/ground and water/fighting.
Discuss
Starter Evolution Types Leaked?!
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According to source code on the starter pages on the Japanese website, the types for the evolution line of Popplio and Litten have been leaked.
These being
fire/ground and water/fighting.
Discuss
We shouldn't count on it. For all we know, they could be working on other Pokémon and those Pokémon could be Ground and Fighting.
This. In addition, the order of the types: Grass, Flying, Ground, Fire, Water, Fighting suggest that Litten doesn't become Fire/Ground, but that Rowlet switches from Flying to Ground and Litten remains pure fire.
At this point, it is anyone's guess as to the types and this find isn't all that conclusive.
Following my theory posted on the Starters thread, I'd be happy with a Fire/Ground type for Litten, and Water/Fighting for Popplio, but I'm also expecting what many people are saying as well, that Rowlet could just go from Grass/Flying to Grass/Ground, just like that. However, as Materious17 already notifies, the find itself isn't conclusive, so the bets are still technically on...if they end up being true at all with these two found typings.
Well, I'd imagine that the game would follow the trend of dual-typing such that fire the fire-type would have a defense against the water, the water against the grass, and the grass against the fire, as they started in Gen 4 with Infernape, Empoleon, and Torterra. That being said, it wouldn't wouldn't make sense for neither Litten nor Popplio to be Fire/Ground or Water/Fighting, or even Rowlet to become Flying/Ground to due to the 4x weakness thing. My guess is Popplio will be Water/Ice or Water/Fairy, Rowlet will retain its Grass/Flying, and Litten will be Fire/???. Obviously I'm probably wrong, too, but I don't think it's probable for those typings. Those are probably other Pokemon to be released in the upcoming days, perhaps like the pomeranian/deer Pokemon accidentally leaked in the most recent trailer?
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pls no more fighting type.
I'm totally fine with regular ol' fighting types. Really, I am. But can we please stop adding the type to any other starters? The three consecutive Fire/Fighting starters were bad enough, but with Chesnaught in the mix....I really can't take any more punches.
I'm totally fine with regular ol' fighting types. Really, I am. But can we please stop adding the type to any other starters? The three consecutive Fire/Fighting starters were bad enough, but with Chesnaught in the mix....I really can't take any more punches.
I'd like to believe this, and do believe it's interesting sleuthing, but as someone mentioned, the order of the typings don't make sense. Why put Ground before Fire? Would that mean Litten's final evo is primarily Ground and Fire is secondary? Doesn't make much sense. But I do wonder what the images mean since it really is an interesting find.
If those are the typings for the final evolutions, it means Rowlet's final form goes from Grass/Flying to Grass/Ground, which is possible, but I see that as unlikely. Nothing about Rowlet seems to hint towards Ground, if it's changing its type for anything I think it'll end up Grass/Psychic.
Well, Rowlet could end up being a Burrowing Owl, seeing as it already resembles a juvenile being round and fluffy
Well, Rowlet could end up being a Burrowing Owl, seeing as it already resembles a juvenile being round and fluffy
Actually, if Rowlet becomes a Burrowing Owl as people speculate, it doesn't absolutely mean that he will go from Grass/Flying to Grass/Ground. He can still keep his original typing as it is. Burrowing Owls are only known to make nests on the ground itself, or stealing grounded nests from ground squirrels. Burrowing Owls are also known for having longer legs, developed mainly for sprinting, but they still have the ability to fly like any other normal owl. I myself believe he will evolve into some form of a Burrowing Owl, mainly because of its biography mentioning Rowlet's ability to perform strong kicks on the opponent.
I don't know, I wouldn't put too much faith in click-bait Youtube videos anyway.
I really don't think these are going to be the starter's final evolutions. For one, unless GameFreak did give us that old flightless owl, Ornimegalonyx, I don't think they'd remove a typing as unique to starters as Grass/Flying. Also, Fire/Dark or Fire/Rock just makes too much sense for Litten. We haven't had a pure Fire starter since Typhlosion, true, but I kinda doubt Litten would be the second. Finally, exactly what part of Popplio looks like a Fighting type? If anything, I'd put money on it being Water/Psychic or Water/Fairy. :/
I really don't think these are going to be the starter's final evolutions. For one, unless GameFreak did give us that old flightless owl, Ornimegalonyx, I don't think they'd remove a typing as unique to starters as Grass/Flying. Also, Fire/Dark or Fire/Rock just makes too much sense for Litten. We haven't had a pure Fire starter since Typhlosion, true, but I kinda doubt Litten would be the second. Finally, exactly what part of Popplio looks like a Fighting type? If anything, I'd put money on it being Water/Psychic or Water/Fairy. :/
I was hoping Litten could be Fire/Dark and Popplio could either be Water/Psychic or Water/Fairy. 
All this unofficial jack is fake. Remember all the starter leakings? Fake.
Except the thing is, this is from the official website, not just some random person spewing fake info for attention.
Sure, they might not be specifically for the starters. Maybe they're for other, yet to be revealed Pokemon. But out of all the 'leaks' that have happened, this one is the one that actually does have some credibility solely due to where it's from.
I would say if the upcoming news doesn't feature a fighting or a ground pokemon then there isn't much stock in these types being for other Pokemon. With the order of these typings being starter type, starter type, NEW TYPE, starter type, NEW TYPE, and starter type, I really do think that ground and fighting are associated with the starters.
Remember Froakie--> Greninja. Everyone thought Froakie would become Water/Fighting until it didn't. Game Freak loves to throw in surprises with the starter designs and they don't always turn out the way you would expect they would.
To be fair, the Froakie--> Greninja Water/Fighting rumor was fueled by a typo in the type leaks before X/Y were released that showed Greninja as Water/Fighting, and Chesnaught as Grass/Dark instead. Not many people considered Frogadier to evolve into a Water/Fighting until that mishap came up, the majority thought of Water/Poison or Water/Dark.
Not too thrilled with the possibility of Fire/Ground. Would much prefer Fire/Dark.
All the possible combinations for Rowlet and Popplio are okay by me.
What are the chances GF trolls us with another Fire/Fighting with Litten?
All the possible combinations for Rowlet and Popplio are okay by me.
What are the chances GF trolls us with another Fire/Fighting with Litten?
I'm not too convinced that Rowlet will just change it's Type combo upon evolution. A Mega Evolution is one thing (As demonstrated with Mega Charizard X), but it's a completely different story if a Starter ditches it's own Type combo upon regular evolution.
If any Starter should be a Ground Type this time around, it might as well be Litten, since Mudkip and Turtwig's final evolutions are already part Ground Type. Litten's final stage will complete the concept of all three typical Starter Types receiving the Ground Type. We might even get extra hints along the way to suggest what type combo Litten's evolutions may adopt. For example, Fennekin was heavily hinted to be a Psychic Type well before X & Y were released, due to an array of pink magic-like attacks it was using. It was also shown using Power-Up Punch, but I think it was added as a subtle hint that Fennekin would become bipedal upon evolution.
That brings me to Popplio, who is most likely going to become a Water/Fighting Type, if Game Freak is going for a circus motif this time around. Popplio has the potential to become a strongman upon it's final stage, and strongmen are usually associated with circuses. Water/Fighting would be logical, more so if can know Fighting Type attacks that have an acrobatic/athletic theme to them.
If any Starter should be a Ground Type this time around, it might as well be Litten, since Mudkip and Turtwig's final evolutions are already part Ground Type. Litten's final stage will complete the concept of all three typical Starter Types receiving the Ground Type. We might even get extra hints along the way to suggest what type combo Litten's evolutions may adopt. For example, Fennekin was heavily hinted to be a Psychic Type well before X & Y were released, due to an array of pink magic-like attacks it was using. It was also shown using Power-Up Punch, but I think it was added as a subtle hint that Fennekin would become bipedal upon evolution.
That brings me to Popplio, who is most likely going to become a Water/Fighting Type, if Game Freak is going for a circus motif this time around. Popplio has the potential to become a strongman upon it's final stage, and strongmen are usually associated with circuses. Water/Fighting would be logical, more so if can know Fighting Type attacks that have an acrobatic/athletic theme to them.
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I support this. Not only that, but I also made a theory/speculation about why Litten's future type could be Fire/Ground somewhere on this same thread. Look it up. That, and in addition, seeing this is the 20th anniversary, I believe Litten will end up as Fire/Ground in its evos as to reflect/play opposites with the fan favorite that's Charizard, which is Fire/Flying type.
As everyone knows, Charmander started as a mere Fire-type on the day of the Pokémon Franchise debut, and there were no hints to it becoming Fire/Flying until it became Charizard. Now, what do I mean with this you ask? Its easy. I think that Charizard, and Litten's future final evolution reflect a certain Chinese myth/Feng Shui tale derived from the Chinese Zodiac, that being:
The Tiger vs Dragon
According to this Chinese tale, the Dragon represents Spirit/Heaven, whereas the Tiger, yes, you guessed it, represents Matter/Earth. For the Dragon, this ironically matches up with Charizard's secondary typing, that being Flying. Flying type, after all, represents the skies/wind. As such, based on that, seeing as the Tiger represents Matter/Earth, it would match up nicely with the Ground type, which represents all Pokémon that are land bound, and have something to do with the element of Earth.
Its also to note that Litten's striping (although opinion may differ here), to me, somewhat resembles the japanese kanji for "Earth"
Just for a quick round up:
- Charizard (Fire/Flying) = Dragon of Heaven
- Litten's Final Evo (Fire/Ground) = Tiger of Earth
Its also to note that Litten's striping (although opinion may differ here), to me, somewhat resembles the japanese kanji for "Earth"
After reading how you contrast Charizard and Litten, I'm a bit more on board with the fire/ground type.
Curious though - how familiar are you with kanji? The extra extension of the lower end of center line actually makes a word of a difference, and would be an entirely different kanji.
In fact, I kind of assumed that as Litten evolved, the dashes on his forehead would slowly change to the "king" character.
It's actually a bit of a cliche in many animes to have the king character on the forehead of a tiger character, as it matches us nicely with how a tiger's stripes are often depicted.