If your opponent plays down 3 shaymins you just win
There are so few decks that run more than 2 shaymin, and almost all of them accelerate faster than this would. Garbage card that nobody is going to run, unless you get something like energy switch or max elixir hits, this card is going to see no play.Pretty much so you may want to stay out of play when you can.
If you have to attack a Pokémon two times to knock it out then it isn't a OHKO. Knock out and OHKO aren't the same thing.a GX attack that puts 60 damage on all your opponent's Pokemon will ko those evolving basics under 70 HP and place everything else in OHKO range.
If you have to attack a Pokémon two times to knock it out then it isn't a OHKO. Knock out and OHKO aren't the same thing.
Your first point is moot because unless they come out in the weeks after Sun and Moon is released and say, "Sun and moon only", the format is going to still be X&Y, not to mention not every regional is standard format. Some are expanded. Your second point is also moot because you're using an unrealistic scenario of your imaginary opponent has 4 straight turns of dead draws while you hit everything you need. Slow meta or not, there are still big basics out there and they are going to be punishing your take 4 turns to use a situational move strat.I feel the need to remind everyone that going into a Sun/Moon format where the format will be slower and evolution based, a GX attack that puts 60 damage on all your opponent's Pokemon will ko those evolving basics under 70 HP and place everything else in OHKO range.
That is a very powerful attack. You newcomers to Pokemon have been very spoiled by card designed since the beginning of Black and White. Time to git gud at the game now!
I know right? If only there was some kind of card that would fit in a Vikavolt deck that would allow you search your deck for a [G] Energy and a [L] Energy and attach them to your Pokemon in any way you like. Every turn. two for each one you have set up.
Shame, probably best write it off as pure garbage.
Your first point is moot because unless they come out in the weeks after Sun and Moon is released and say, "Sun and moon only", the format is going to still be X&Y, not to mention not every regional is standard format. Some are expanded.
Your second point is also moot because you're using an unrealistic scenario of your imaginary opponent has 4 straight turns of dead draws while you hit everything you need. Slow meta or not, there are still big basics out there and they are going to be punishing your take 4 turns to use a situational move strat.
The irony in this is that you call everyone that dislikes this card 'newcomers' that have been 'very spoiled' by the BW and beyond meta, and tell us to 'git gud'. When it is really you that should 'git gud' and realize that this isn't a good card.
Gee, relying on a stage 2 evo to power up another stage 2 evo, oh and both share the same evo line! Which means at best you can get away with running something along the lines of 4-4-2/2. What could possibly go wrong with a deck like that?
This isn't like BREAK evos, where you don't have to split a line between vanilla card and BREAK evolution.
Again this is a situational attack, what happens to your wide lens when you play against a trevenant break or other item lock deck in an expanded deck? Guess what? No Wide Lens. Oh and lets not forget about tool scrapper, xerosic, and breakpoint yveltal. Your point on "huge deal" is only useful if your opponent is running shaymins, which again, is going to outpace vikavolt unless it's some toad variant.I never made a claim. I just said an attack that can KO most evolving Basic Pokemon in one turn is a good attack. You do know Vikavolt has two cards right? A GX and a normal stage 2. You also know the normal stage 2 has an ability that gets a grass and lightning Energy out of the deck to attach to a Pokemon right? You do know that Vikavolt-GX can use a DCE right? You do know that Vikavolt (both) can ise FoGP right? You do know all of this can happen on your second turn right and you can get one powered up that same turn right? You do know that a GX attack that does 60 damage to all Pokemon will KO any evolving Pokemon under 70 HP right and that cards like Sycamore and Shaymin still exist? Even with big basic, 60 on everything with the ability to use Wide Lens to put 120 on every Lightning weak Pokemon is a huge deal.
Except it's not good. 4 energy to do 60 damage to everything without applying weakness is terrible. If this were an EX every single person would be saying this attack is terrible. And if you say, "But vanilla vikavolt helps accelerate energy onto it." again, then we have nothing more to discuss. This conversation will just go in one giant circle discussing.you do need to "git gud" if you can't even see simple card interactions and why a 60 damage spread attack is good.
My "problem" with you, is that you're a hypocrite. If you really hated B&W and beyond meta, then you would've quit playing the TCG years ago. Yet here you are, celebrating every new card that isn't an EX or a reprint. And don't say you didn't hate it, we both know you did or you wouldn't keep complaining about it every chance you get.On the other note, I don't know what your problem is with me and you seems to have a problem with everything I say. I don't care for a argument or what beef you have with me. I have never done anything to you
Except that deck came from the extreme opposite meta in both standard and expanded than there is right now. Back then, tacking 4 turns to power up was normal, now? If you're taking 4 turns to power up, you better be hoping your opponent is dead drawing too or you're screwed.There what a format where 4-4-2/2 or other numbers were legit lines. Gardevoir and Gallade was one such deck and Pokemon LV.X forces players to run 3-1 or 2-2 lines and had more restrictions than cards now do and those were some skill intense formats. Nothing went wrong at all.
Again this is a situational attack, what happens to your wide lens when you play against a trevenant break or other item lock deck in an expanded deck? Guess what? No Wide Lens. Oh and lets not forget about tool scrapper, xerosic, and breakpoint yveltal. Your point on "huge deal" is only useful if your opponent is running shaymins, which again, is going to outpace vikavolt unless it's some toad variant.
Except it's not good. 4 energy to do 60 damage to everything without applying weakness is terrible. If this were an EX every single person would be saying this attack is terrible. And if you say, "But vanilla vikavolt helps accelerate energy onto it." again, then we have nothing more to discuss. This conversation will just go in one giant circle discussing.
My "problem" with you, is that you're a hypocrite. If you really hated B&W and beyond meta, then you would've quit playing the TCG years ago. Yet here you are, celebrating every new card that isn't an EX or a reprint. And don't say you didn't hate it, we both know you did or you wouldn't keep complaining about it every chance you get.
Except that deck came from the extreme opposite meta in both standard and expanded than there is right now. Back then, tacking 4 turns to power up was normal, now? If you're taking 4 turns to power up, you better be hoping your opponent is dead drawing too or you're screwed.
Turn one, play grubbin onto bench or have as active pokemon, attach energy. Turn two, evolve into charjabug, attach energy. Turn three, evolve into Vikavolt GX, attach energy and use first attack. Turn four, attach energy, use GX attack.Where is this four turn thing coming from?
Turn one, play grubbin onto bench or have as active pokemon, attach energy. Turn two, evolve into charjabug, attach energy. Turn three, evolve into Vikavolt GX, attach energy and use first attack. Turn four, attach energy, use GX attack.
Of course, this is a mixed case of worst and best scenarios at the same time where you have the full line in hand and enough energy, yet cannot accelerate energy onto it with its first attack or with vanilla vikavolt. And don't even say that it's not going to happen, it can and will when you run a 4-4-2/2 line. You can't always have everything that you need.
U could do everything that can attack with t1 with grubbin forest rare candy multiple vikavolts out from an abitlity to attack energies to this thing or even normal vodkavolt u could literally do a donk on a ninja deck with vikavolts he attack.
D-did either of you even read the part where I said it was a mixture of best and worst case scenario where you could get the card into play but couldn't accelerate it faster than that? Of course there are scenarios where you can get it powered up in a turn or two, but that scenario is just as likely as my scenario where you just dead draw and have a 240 hp target that took 4 turns to get powered up. I bet the both you just skimmed over it and wrote angry fanboy responses because I'm not on the vikavolt GX bandwagon.Card interactions bro! and running a 4-4-2-2 line isn't even that bad. You can also run more that two of the end stage Pokemon if you want.