RE: The Battler Improvement Thread - 2nd match is up!
Thanks for you feedback man, I really do appreciate that. I can see what you mean and now that I look at it, I think it is really the reason why I lost. That one layer of spikes cost me a lot of health which I could've prevent easily by taunting, but I would never stay in with Roserade when I am against Froslass I can do like nothing to it. As far as the Choice User go, I nearly always have that many of them. I am used to that, when I don't use stall, it is a team full with Choicer, especially specs. All the time that I have been playing this was the strategy that worked the best for me. Hazards and Choicer, or when it's a tier without Blissey and Umbreon, simply 6 times Choice Specs and that's it. That kind of teams were the most successfull for me and I've been doing much better with them that with what other people would call a serious team.
I think you should try Poliwrath out before you judge it. It is a good set, it does what it is here for and it gives my team the Bulk it needs to not get swept by everything. I cannot replace it with Starmie, because Starmie lacks bulk, has no Focus Blast, which is by the way the main reason why I use this and Starmie has no Priority. It cannot switch into Scizor, into Tyranitar and a lot of stuff that Poliwrath handles for me. I tried Starmie, it doesn't work half as good.
Thanks for your help man, I really appreciate that!
So in the end everyone agrees that it was the not taunting against Roserade. My team probably would need a spinner, but there is nothing I can afford taking out, so I don't know, the next time I face a more defensive team I guess I will have to predict better and prevent the hazards! As far as Poliwrath goes, I don't consider it as a gimmick, it works repeatedly against the same player and it does what it is here for. It's kinda the Pokemon that makes my team not get swept by everything and that allows me to take out some Walls that might stop my sweeps with Infernape or Jolteon. You wouldn't believe how often people switch Rotom or Skarmory into it and then have to take a Hydropump.
Guys thanks for your help, I am pretty sure I won't use Spikes against a non taunter Roserade ever again lol
TDL said:I feel that layer of Spikes was simply the deciding factor between you winning and losing. I assume you kept Infernape in on Rotom-W because it would die to hazards coming back in and you didn't want to risk Jolteon (your last hope) taking a hit with what few health it had. Obviously you did all that you could on those final turns due to the pressure hazards brought. This leads me back to my main point: that extra layer of hazards made all the difference. I think that you should've immediately used Taunt on Roserade when you switched in Froslass. You would've got up all your layers of Spikes while still limiting him to just Stealth Rock and Toxic Spikes.
Another issue was the amount of choice users you have. That certainly didn't make the hazards issue any better.
I like this battle. It's a great example of the pressure hazards can bring even in the most simplest of ways.
Thanks for you feedback man, I really do appreciate that. I can see what you mean and now that I look at it, I think it is really the reason why I lost. That one layer of spikes cost me a lot of health which I could've prevent easily by taunting, but I would never stay in with Roserade when I am against Froslass I can do like nothing to it. As far as the Choice User go, I nearly always have that many of them. I am used to that, when I don't use stall, it is a team full with Choicer, especially specs. All the time that I have been playing this was the strategy that worked the best for me. Hazards and Choicer, or when it's a tier without Blissey and Umbreon, simply 6 times Choice Specs and that's it. That kind of teams were the most successfull for me and I've been doing much better with them that with what other people would call a serious team.
Dark Void said:
I think you should try Poliwrath out before you judge it. It is a good set, it does what it is here for and it gives my team the Bulk it needs to not get swept by everything. I cannot replace it with Starmie, because Starmie lacks bulk, has no Focus Blast, which is by the way the main reason why I use this and Starmie has no Priority. It cannot switch into Scizor, into Tyranitar and a lot of stuff that Poliwrath handles for me. I tried Starmie, it doesn't work half as good.
Some Loser said:
Thanks for your help man, I really appreciate that!
So in the end everyone agrees that it was the not taunting against Roserade. My team probably would need a spinner, but there is nothing I can afford taking out, so I don't know, the next time I face a more defensive team I guess I will have to predict better and prevent the hazards! As far as Poliwrath goes, I don't consider it as a gimmick, it works repeatedly against the same player and it does what it is here for. It's kinda the Pokemon that makes my team not get swept by everything and that allows me to take out some Walls that might stop my sweeps with Infernape or Jolteon. You wouldn't believe how often people switch Rotom or Skarmory into it and then have to take a Hydropump.
Guys thanks for your help, I am pretty sure I won't use Spikes against a non taunter Roserade ever again lol
