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It's The Day of The Doctor. Only 11 hours left... I think. :3 HYPEHYPEHYPE
I'm kinda worried, since I haven't seen anything from Season 7 except for the half of Asylum of The Daleks and The Angels Take Manhattan. Is there anything important I should know? (if you're feeling helpful, you can PM the most important stuff that has happened. I won't mind spoilers, since I'm gonna watch TDOTD today.)
I'm kinda worried, since I haven't seen anything from Season 7 except for the half of Asylum of The Daleks and The Angels Take Manhattan. Is there anything important I should know? (if you're feeling helpful, you can PM the most important stuff that has happened. I won't mind spoilers, since I'm gonna watch TDOTD today.)
You HAVE to watch the season 7 finale. But nothing too important will be missed otherwise.
Anybody else confused after watching the new episode? I must admit that I did not see the finale. It was really good though! Anybody else just have their mind blown?
momoxmomo said:
I wasn't confused at all. I did just watch The Name of The Doctor though, so that might have somee effect on it.
The Day of The Doctor is WITHOUT ANY DOUBT one of the best TV show episodes I have ever seen. In TDOTD the way the combined the stories was simply awesome. Also the part where they showed Capaldi's eyes... Ahh. I was like "zomgomgomgomg" and went totally insane. ;P
I also cooked myself some fish fingers and custard and ate it while I was watching. ^-^
That was amazing. I can't put into words how amazing it was without it being an illegible scrawl:
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Genius.
It made all the feels come out.
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Genius.
It made all the feels come out.
Yeah, I liked that they had three of the doctors together. Yeah, my brother went crazy when the new doctor's eyes were shown. I actually didn't see that part, or didn't acknowledge seeing it. Btw, I haven't seen that much of doctor who, and mainly only the past doctor. I was only watching it because my brother has been watching the marathon all day. He's the true fanatic. But, it's got me excited for this season!
For those who still feel compelled to check this thread and haven't watched the episode, I'll put it in spoiler tags.
I really liked Day of the Doctor! It was perfect because the focus was on the three Doctors, Hurt, Tennant, and Smith, rather than making the companion(s) have a bigger role. Usually I wouldn't mind, but it definitely was an appropriate approach since the 50th anniversary should be about the Doctor. Clara was mainly there for comic relief and to make a connection with John Hurt.
It was really smart when they didn't make Billie be Rose because everyone expected there to be drama in a traditional episode (I wouldn't have minded). I think her portrayal was great. The fact that Matt was kind of being teased a lot brought a good laugh or two. That brief cameo of Capaldi almost made up for the lack of Eccleston...very disappointing. I understand that he has some grudge against the producers or whatever, but he could have at least shown up at the end of Hurt's regeneration and go all "Fantastic!" Oh well, I guess just his mere presence is good enough..
It was really smart when they didn't make Billie be Rose because everyone expected there to be drama in a traditional episode (I wouldn't have minded). I think her portrayal was great. The fact that Matt was kind of being teased a lot brought a good laugh or two. That brief cameo of Capaldi almost made up for the lack of Eccleston...very disappointing. I understand that he has some grudge against the producers or whatever, but he could have at least shown up at the end of Hurt's regeneration and go all "Fantastic!" Oh well, I guess just his mere presence is good enough..
I managed to catch The Day of the Doctor when it first aired yesterday and it was incredible. There was infact more than three doctors that made an appearance in this Special, can you guess who the fourth one was? Hint: He wears a famous scarf. He meets up with his 11th incarnation (Matt Smith) by the end of the Special talking about the Gallifrey painting's name.
As for the Special itself, I really liked how it tied loose ends with the Doctor's history on his home planet Gallifrey. Throughout watching it I felt like John Hurt's Doctor is infact the incarnation of the Doctor before he regenerates into the 1st Doctor William Hartnell 50 years ago because the inside of his TARDiS looked alot like the 1st Doctor's unless If I'm mistaking it for one of his other early incarnations.
Remember when the 10th Doctor regenerated into the 11th when he said, "I don't wanna go!"? It's explained later at the end of the Special which leads to the upcoming 2013 Christmas Special that as you guessed it leads to the 11th Doctor regenerating into the 12th Doctor (Peter Capaldi) although If you count John Hurt's Doctor there's now technically 13 incarnations of the Doctor total. I'm also looking forward to this year's Christmas Special for Doctor Who cause I hear that the Master is returning after his recent conflict with Rassilon.
As for the Special itself, I really liked how it tied loose ends with the Doctor's history on his home planet Gallifrey. Throughout watching it I felt like John Hurt's Doctor is infact the incarnation of the Doctor before he regenerates into the 1st Doctor William Hartnell 50 years ago because the inside of his TARDiS looked alot like the 1st Doctor's unless If I'm mistaking it for one of his other early incarnations.
Remember when the 10th Doctor regenerated into the 11th when he said, "I don't wanna go!"? It's explained later at the end of the Special which leads to the upcoming 2013 Christmas Special that as you guessed it leads to the 11th Doctor regenerating into the 12th Doctor (Peter Capaldi) although If you count John Hurt's Doctor there's now technically 13 incarnations of the Doctor total. I'm also looking forward to this year's Christmas Special for Doctor Who cause I hear that the Master is returning after his recent conflict with Rassilon.
... Am I allowed to say I didn't like it? Because I honestly didn't. It seemed like your standard Moffat script, with the odd twist of being not over-the-top enough for once, which wasn't what I'd expect from the 50th anniversary special. I'm not a fan of the way Moffat's been running things these last few years in general, so I'm not sure if I'm expected to enjoy this or if only those who seem to think Moffat is as brilliant as he himself thinks he is were meant to.
It had its moments, though. John Hurt played a decent doctor and made more than a few appropriate remarks concerning Matt Smith's doctor. Tennant was great as always. Seeing Tom Baker again is always nice, and I guess the Zygons were long overdue for a return as well (though I sort of miss the Skarasen). That being said, the plot was all over the place and had more plotholes than a story about swiss cheese. Of course it had to include a fez because Moffat is nothing if not self-congratulatory, Queen Elizabeth was of course confident, flirtatious, arrogant and completely obsessed with the doctor, because that's the only female character Moffat knows how to write (oh, no, excuse me, the story had a not-at-all stereotypical nerd girl as well, my apologies). Billie Piper was brought back only for the sake of being able to put her name in the credits, as she had no real reason to be there (except to retro-actively introduce the Doctor to Roses before Season 1? What's that all about?). The dialogue went from good "Great men are forged in fire, it is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame" to hilariously bad "so powerful that it had become self-aware" to horribly predictable (apparently every Moffat script has to include the docter mentioning he's the doctor and how awesome he is). The Zygons deserved more than to be completely forgotten about after they decided to "talk it out" (what? how?), which of course brings us to mr. Hurt pointing out that the sonic screwdriver should be just that, a screwdriver, except that now it has apparently become even more of a deus ex machina what with it being able to alter minds in a very precise way. Although it apparently needs 400 years to do a complex calculation, because doors are more complex than brains? Hooray for consistency, I guess. Also, that looked like a wooden door, so I guess Moffat's only deus-ex-machina restriction is out of the window now as well.
I guess I better stop now because I'm afraid I could go on for quite a while. It wasn't as bad as what has been thrown at us these last few years, but that's not saying much of anything. I really should just stop watching the show, but I for some reason keep hoping against all odds that the show might actually get good again. Oh well, at least it gives me something to complain about...
On a side note, I know the official explanation for the "War Doctor" is that Eccleston doesn't want to do anymore Who, but I can't help but feel like it's really because Moffat wants to have #13. We'll see where he'll go with that, but I'm placing my money on overly convoluted regeneration story-arc.
I'll stop mentioning Moffat now.
... Okay, once more. In a recent Guardian interview with Moffat, it mentions one of the critiques I just made about Moffat's writing of women:
"One is that Moffat's female characters are empty vessels defined only by their relationship to the Doctor."
His reaction:
"I've heard this criticism of lack of interior character about River Song – but she's the only one who's ever turned him down."
The man's hilarious.
Okay, I'm done now. Do go on enjoying the show if you do, more power to you, I guess.
It had its moments, though. John Hurt played a decent doctor and made more than a few appropriate remarks concerning Matt Smith's doctor. Tennant was great as always. Seeing Tom Baker again is always nice, and I guess the Zygons were long overdue for a return as well (though I sort of miss the Skarasen). That being said, the plot was all over the place and had more plotholes than a story about swiss cheese. Of course it had to include a fez because Moffat is nothing if not self-congratulatory, Queen Elizabeth was of course confident, flirtatious, arrogant and completely obsessed with the doctor, because that's the only female character Moffat knows how to write (oh, no, excuse me, the story had a not-at-all stereotypical nerd girl as well, my apologies). Billie Piper was brought back only for the sake of being able to put her name in the credits, as she had no real reason to be there (except to retro-actively introduce the Doctor to Roses before Season 1? What's that all about?). The dialogue went from good "Great men are forged in fire, it is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame" to hilariously bad "so powerful that it had become self-aware" to horribly predictable (apparently every Moffat script has to include the docter mentioning he's the doctor and how awesome he is). The Zygons deserved more than to be completely forgotten about after they decided to "talk it out" (what? how?), which of course brings us to mr. Hurt pointing out that the sonic screwdriver should be just that, a screwdriver, except that now it has apparently become even more of a deus ex machina what with it being able to alter minds in a very precise way. Although it apparently needs 400 years to do a complex calculation, because doors are more complex than brains? Hooray for consistency, I guess. Also, that looked like a wooden door, so I guess Moffat's only deus-ex-machina restriction is out of the window now as well.
I guess I better stop now because I'm afraid I could go on for quite a while. It wasn't as bad as what has been thrown at us these last few years, but that's not saying much of anything. I really should just stop watching the show, but I for some reason keep hoping against all odds that the show might actually get good again. Oh well, at least it gives me something to complain about...
On a side note, I know the official explanation for the "War Doctor" is that Eccleston doesn't want to do anymore Who, but I can't help but feel like it's really because Moffat wants to have #13. We'll see where he'll go with that, but I'm placing my money on overly convoluted regeneration story-arc.
I'll stop mentioning Moffat now.
... Okay, once more. In a recent Guardian interview with Moffat, it mentions one of the critiques I just made about Moffat's writing of women:
"One is that Moffat's female characters are empty vessels defined only by their relationship to the Doctor."
His reaction:
"I've heard this criticism of lack of interior character about River Song – but she's the only one who's ever turned him down."
The man's hilarious.
Okay, I'm done now. Do go on enjoying the show if you do, more power to you, I guess.
Heavenly Spoon said:
First, it's fine to voice your opinions because I can see how it wasn't as good as we hoped.
With the Billie Piper part, I liked it personally because everyone was getting mad that she, the only companion, was coming back again and again. I don't personally mind either "Rose," but this was sheer genius. They managed to fit her in because she had a role that was defined back in the first series of the "regeneration" of the Doctor Who series. She turned into Bad Wolf in "The Parting of the Ways" or an episode close to it. It took her form because she did so, and it makes sense as to why she would be in it. (Of course, I do understand that if they want a 50th anniversary, they should include the original cast members that made the 50th possible). I respect your opinion, but Rose wasn't in this at all, so she shouldn't have any character development. This is Bad Wolf, not the woman who's madly in love with the Doctor. She had a role in it, but not as the all-arounder we knew in 2005.
Also, I felt that bow ties should've been in the place of fezzes, but whatever.
Bad Wolf seems sort of unrelated to the events of the time war, though. Even if the doctor needed someone to talk to when deciding wether to activate the moment or not, I'm not sure Billie Piper was the best choice, as it seems quite obvious that she was only included to rouse speculation before the special aired and to announce that she would be in, implying fan favourite Rose would be. It seems incredibly odd to me that the moment would settle on a completely unfamiliar form. The fact that Billie Piper could've easily been replaced without any impact on the story clearly demonstrates that there wasn't any reason for her being there.Turtwig said:
On top of that, I felt the whole point of the War/Ninth Doctor was that he should not be alone, that he needs companion(s), which made giving him someone to talk to pretty weird. I'm not sure how they would've demonstrated some sort of internal struggle otherwise, but this seemed like a cop-out.
Actually, having the doctor actually communicate with the high council of Gallifrey instead of just sending him to God-knows-where to activate the moment might've been more fun. Honestly, we saw so little of the actual Time War, considering this was meant to be the story which finally revealed what happened. We don't know how it started, we don't know the scope, we don't know how long it has lasted, we don't know of any important battles, we don't know what happened to Romana or Susan, we don't even know what the Time Lords did to become so hated as implied in "The Night of the Doctor" (except for warring, I guess?). Having the Doctor interact with Gallifrey more would've easily solved all these problems. Instead we got a weird Zygon sub-plot which sort of went nowhere. As I've said, the scope of this thing was incredibly underwhelming, which is surprising considering Moffat's tendency to turn everything into the biggest deal in the universe.
I don't think Billie could've been replaced. If someone else was Bad Wolf, how would that work? There would be way too much speculation then. Plus, like I said, she was the companion that made the 50th possible. I think she deserved to be in it. She didn't get much screen time, either.
I do agree with the John Hurt part, but this was also for the current Doctor just as much as for him. Think about it...Smith's Doctor even lost memory of the child count because he was too scarred and decided to cast it out of his mind. While the war is still a bad thing, at least his conscience is clean. They also left the doors open for Gallifrey to appear again. I'm excited because they're still leaving pieces out to cover. This also kind of keeps the show running. Otherwise it would just be the same "adventure, regeneration, companion die/give up, repeat" process. Giving the Time War just as much mystery as it took away was genius because it allows one of the subplots thrive just as much as the others. If they completely gave everything away, no one would care to wonder about it.
The lackluster part for me was that the previews basically told it all. I was hoping for more violence and Time War stuff, too, but I understand. I'm sad that John Hurt is over, though. I really like his Doctormore than Matt Smith's.
I do agree with the John Hurt part, but this was also for the current Doctor just as much as for him. Think about it...Smith's Doctor even lost memory of the child count because he was too scarred and decided to cast it out of his mind. While the war is still a bad thing, at least his conscience is clean. They also left the doors open for Gallifrey to appear again. I'm excited because they're still leaving pieces out to cover. This also kind of keeps the show running. Otherwise it would just be the same "adventure, regeneration, companion die/give up, repeat" process. Giving the Time War just as much mystery as it took away was genius because it allows one of the subplots thrive just as much as the others. If they completely gave everything away, no one would care to wonder about it.
The lackluster part for me was that the previews basically told it all. I was hoping for more violence and Time War stuff, too, but I understand. I'm sad that John Hurt is over, though. I really like his Doctor
Why would it have to have been Bad Wolf? Her role was to act as a sort of proxy for the moment, which honestly could've been done by anyone or anything, if it was needed at all.Turtwig said:
I accept that the Time War might be explained upon further in the next season(s), but it should've been done here and now, this is the 50th anniversary special, not the introduction to season 8. I think season 8 might even benefit more from dealing with the aftermath rather than the events of the Time War, which means they should've expanded upon the events of the time war now. I am cautiously exited for the return of Gallifrey, though, it's always fun to have an adventure take place there.
Why does everything always have to include seasons-long mysteries and over-arching plot points? The best Doctor Who serials and episodes are quite often entirely isolated except for the Doctor and his companions. I don't watch Doctor Who to see how Moffat will mess up the big reveal at the end of the season this time, I watch it for the episodes in themselves, the stories they tell, the villains that are faced and the challenges that are overcome. Doctor Who has always been a monster-of-the-week show, and probably the best one around, I don't see why this old formula wouldn't work.Turtwig said:
Heavenly Spoon said:
Well the first season of Doctor Who coming back had Bad Wolf for an episode or two and then it was over. Nothing was explained. The introduction of Bad Wolf now kind of shows its importance. Rose absorbed the energy and therefore it took form of her, and, I guess through some timey-wimey complications, it always was her. Plus, it wanted to reflect someone in John Hurt's future life. I don't mind it being Rose, and I think everyone associates Bad Wolf with Rose (and her golden eyes). To be honest, I wouldn't have minded her coming back as a companion since it would be more fun to see the others interact with her.
Heavenly Spoon said:
I think "mess up" is a strong phrase. Moffat is a gifted writer and wrote what he did for a purpose. Maybe he's saving it all for the next season, or next anniversary, or whenever. I watch Doctor Who for that same reason, the enjoyment of each individual episode, but I like seeing his other problems, like the Time War, slowly accumulate as he flirts through time and space with his companions and they save the world(s). I really like the usual repetitive system, but the best part is how each of those cycles add up to a whole new storyline apart from solving the mysteries of Amy or Clara. That is how the 50th anniversary was brought into play. If they stopped and gave all the information away, then it would just be left with the bare (but still enjoyable!) cycle.
At this point, I think we should agree to disagree
On a side note, which Doctor do you think met the best of his capabilities? I felt it was John Hurt simply because he went from the Old Man Doctor (to me) to twice the serious man Eccleston was and really showed happiness despite the saddening deed he was bound to do. John Hurt really didn't disappoint me and I was very impressed with his performance. I hope that they bring him back one day, but I think his story might be up now.
Just got back from seeing the 50th Anniversary special in theaters. And let me tell you, it was a wonderful experience.
My only complaint is that the audio was far behind the video during the ads,
I was incredibly disappointed with that hiccup. But it was overall a great episode and worth waiting to see it on the big screen.
My only complaint is that the audio was far behind the video during the ads,
so I wasn't able to hear the part with Strax or the first part of Matt Smith's thing with David Tennant.
So far my only disappointment with "The Day of the Doctor" was where was River Song? I thought her and the Doctor were married from an agreement they made, plus she's the only person who knows the Doctor's real name and she went out of her way to save the Doctor's life by using up all her regeneration capabilities as a Time Lord to do it. I know the Doctor also had a biological daughter from Gallifrey ways back before he met River Song in his 10th incarnation.
I've also noticed a plothole in the new Special, John Hurt's Doctor has a red sonic screwdriver yet the sonic screwdriver was first invented by the 10th Doctor only to be upgraded by the 11th Doctor. So I don't get why John Hurt's Doctor has one If he supposedly regenerates into the 1st Doctor William Hartnell If that's what we Whovian's are led to believe. The 1st Doctor never had the sonic screwdriver at least until up to his 10th incarnation anyway. Perhaps the main reason is because the creators of the Doctor Who franchise didn't expect it to be as successful as it is now.
I've also noticed a plothole in the new Special, John Hurt's Doctor has a red sonic screwdriver yet the sonic screwdriver was first invented by the 10th Doctor only to be upgraded by the 11th Doctor. So I don't get why John Hurt's Doctor has one If he supposedly regenerates into the 1st Doctor William Hartnell If that's what we Whovian's are led to believe. The 1st Doctor never had the sonic screwdriver at least until up to his 10th incarnation anyway. Perhaps the main reason is because the creators of the Doctor Who franchise didn't expect it to be as successful as it is now.
1) Yes, the Doctor did have a granddaughter, Susan Foreman, but she's only mentioned very irregularly these days. I would've loved to find out what became of her after the Time War, but it was evidently not deemed important enough to mention. It's only the 50th Anniversary, nothing important, surely there are other, far better moments to look back on the 50 preceding years and tie up some loose ends.Card Slinger J said:
2) John Hurt regenerated from the 8th doctor and regenerates into the 9th Doctor, not the first, and Nine had a sonic screwdriver from the start. William Hartnell himself used a sonic screwdriver as well on several occasions, I'm not sure where you got your information...
Heck, I even have a replica of Tom Baker's (#4) sonic screwdriver on my desk right now. They've existed long before the revived series.
3) River Song has to be one of the worst inventions of Moffat, and her not appearing was definitely a good thing.
Day of The Doctor spoilers ahead.
So just to get my facts straight, Paul McGann (Doctor #8) regenerated into the War Doctor, John Hurt. Which is why John Hurt isn't given a number (because he wasn't THE Doctor, he was the WAR Doctor)? Meaning that in the original series, Time Lords were still kicking and it was never referenced in this series that The Doctor destroyed the all of Time Lords? So then at the end of "The Day of The Doctor" he regenerates into Christopher Eccleston (Doctor #9/10 if counting John Hurt)? However, he lost his memories of these events so how could the timeline not be drastically altered? Wouldn't Eccleston now not have the memory of neither destroying nor saving Galifrey? Or would it be that John Hurt Doctor would return to his own timeline/universe/bubble thing? I'm so confused.
Also, who was at the end of "The Night of The Doctor?" The one in the reflection. I thought that that was supposed to be John Hurt.
So just to get my facts straight, Paul McGann (Doctor #8) regenerated into the War Doctor, John Hurt. Which is why John Hurt isn't given a number (because he wasn't THE Doctor, he was the WAR Doctor)? Meaning that in the original series, Time Lords were still kicking and it was never referenced in this series that The Doctor destroyed the all of Time Lords? So then at the end of "The Day of The Doctor" he regenerates into Christopher Eccleston (Doctor #9/10 if counting John Hurt)? However, he lost his memories of these events so how could the timeline not be drastically altered? Wouldn't Eccleston now not have the memory of neither destroying nor saving Galifrey? Or would it be that John Hurt Doctor would return to his own timeline/universe/bubble thing? I'm so confused.
Also, who was at the end of "The Night of The Doctor?" The one in the reflection. I thought that that was supposed to be John Hurt.
I'm not sure why I'm answer question about a plot I think was messy to begin with, but here we going again:
2) Yup, there's quite a few older Doctor Who serials featuring Time Lords, and even a few which take place on Gallifrey. In fact, one of the Doctor's companions, Romana, was a Time Lady, and technically so was Susan (the Doctor's granddaughter), although the concept of "Time Lords" wasn't invented yet at the time. The Time Lords in the older Doctor Who serials probably don't remember the Time War because the Time War has apparently changed the future. It isn't the first time the future has been changed on Doctor Who.
3) I think the explanation for Eccleston thinking he activated the Moment even though he has no recollection of the event (memory and paradoxes in Doctor Who are messy subjects) is that it seems like the only logical conclusion. The Time War has ended and the Time Lords are gone, what else could have caused this?
4) The image shown at the end of "The Night of the Doctor" is in fact a younger John Hurt. Apparently he aged quite a bit during the events of the Time War. I personally think using a younger John Hurt was a bad idea, because the Doctor didn't age that much between his 7th and 9th incarnation, in fact, he apparently aged backwards by some 50 years. Even if his statement in "Time and the Rani" was a lie both himself and Romana put the fourth incarnation's age at around 750, which is only 150 years less than the ninth incarnation's 900. Eleven apparently didn't age a day in the 100 years he spent running away from his death, so even if the Doctor has barely aged between Five and Seven (which is equally ridiculous, because McCoy is quite clearly older in the movie), he still shouldn't look that much older. Let's not even mention McGann being quite a bit older as well. Either Moffat's admitting he messed up series 6 or he has no idea what consistency is. On top of this, considering the older Doctors tend to be grumpier, regenerating into an older form would've made more sense for the more serious "War Doctor."
There, I hope that answers your questions.
1) Hurt isn't given a number because he doesn't call himself "The Doctor," lesser men lighting the flame and all that. He probably won't get a number even after his redemption (of sorts) because it would mean all the wiki pages have to be changed. But yes, Eccleston, while officially the Ninth Doctor, is technically the 10th incarnation.Momaster12 said:
2) Yup, there's quite a few older Doctor Who serials featuring Time Lords, and even a few which take place on Gallifrey. In fact, one of the Doctor's companions, Romana, was a Time Lady, and technically so was Susan (the Doctor's granddaughter), although the concept of "Time Lords" wasn't invented yet at the time. The Time Lords in the older Doctor Who serials probably don't remember the Time War because the Time War has apparently changed the future. It isn't the first time the future has been changed on Doctor Who.
3) I think the explanation for Eccleston thinking he activated the Moment even though he has no recollection of the event (memory and paradoxes in Doctor Who are messy subjects) is that it seems like the only logical conclusion. The Time War has ended and the Time Lords are gone, what else could have caused this?
4) The image shown at the end of "The Night of the Doctor" is in fact a younger John Hurt. Apparently he aged quite a bit during the events of the Time War. I personally think using a younger John Hurt was a bad idea, because the Doctor didn't age that much between his 7th and 9th incarnation, in fact, he apparently aged backwards by some 50 years. Even if his statement in "Time and the Rani" was a lie both himself and Romana put the fourth incarnation's age at around 750, which is only 150 years less than the ninth incarnation's 900. Eleven apparently didn't age a day in the 100 years he spent running away from his death, so even if the Doctor has barely aged between Five and Seven (which is equally ridiculous, because McCoy is quite clearly older in the movie), he still shouldn't look that much older. Let's not even mention McGann being quite a bit older as well. Either Moffat's admitting he messed up series 6 or he has no idea what consistency is. On top of this, considering the older Doctors tend to be grumpier, regenerating into an older form would've made more sense for the more serious "War Doctor."
There, I hope that answers your questions.