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Which still equals 50% between the 2 people flipping it 100 time's. Yes probability is math, but it's math that has a perfect alignment in an imperfect world, can the same mathematics be used, possibly. But even between 2 flips at yes 25%, the actual calculation would be, 50% / y into b (25% mentioned by B, only 2 flip's taken) = 50% success rate, this is logic (it's programming math but whatever) but still apply's and then luck comes in which decides weather or not your ratio exceeds 51% heads or tails. So in other word's, lets say you're ratio was both 51% heads and tails, every 4th try you'll end up using v-blast with success, however that ratio only answer's that percent, to exceed this issue of every 4th try is pure luck. So for instance if your ratio is 43%, every 1-5 (even exceeding this number) is a success rate, and so on, but by this point depends on the person's luck.

We had a guy at the league almost rage quit a sharpedo deck due to the massive amount of fail's, it was kind of funny.

I won't lie, i'm kinda into bisharp, but i don't know it it would make a good meta card, probably not, but it's always worth the collection want.
 
varit, your prior two posts make no sense.

Luck has everything to do with probability. Everything. Probability is simply math. You have a 43.75% chance of flipping double heads with Victini. Maybe I should explain even better:

Your first time, you have a 25% chance of flipping HH. We agree there. You will only need to flip again if you didn't get HH the first time. That means 75% of the time, you will flip again. And only 75% of the time. Out of that 75%, you will flip HH 25% of the time- meaning an 18.75% chance the second time you flip. 25%+18.75%=43.75%.

What you're doing is counting the time you get HH, then flip again and get HH, as double. That's incorrect, it still counts as only 1 double-heads flip. I know it's tricky, but it's math.

And naturally, it does have to do with luck. But if you flipped an infinite number of times with this scenario, you would get HH 43.75% of the time.
 
I will flip 75% of the time for the second flip when the card asks you to flip twice, that logic is flawed. You're not using to base relativity math, you're just using various percentage's you're making up to predict a coin flip, and I bet that 50% of the time you will be wrong. What I'm doing is simply implying the probability of a coin flip by percentage and amount of flips, I always assume that my next flip is either a rounded 50% or 100% each time to not confuse number's that are based upon luck not pure mathematics. There is no math in luck it's pure reality as Spidy Freakshow just mentioned, probability is a point of perfectionism made up by mathematics's, and no matter you say the side of a flip. Even regarded by 50 to an infinite amount of flips has to answer to the original percentage given so it will be 50% every time. I suggest either continuing or holding this debate on another thread, we're so off topic it's not even funny, lol.
 
It is funny, because you are wrong, and you also complained about being off topic, yet made no attempt to make your post relevant to the thread.

Sharpedo Victini wouldn't ever be good anyways, because by the time you are able to discard your opponents hand, it won't matter because they already will have a sufficient enough set up to sweep through your Sharpedos, because of their laughable HP.
 
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It is funny, because you are wrong, and you also complained about being off topic, yet made no attempt to make your post relevant to the thread.

Sharpedo Victini wouldn't ever be good anyways, because by the time you are able to discard your opponents hand, it won't matter because they already will have a sufficient enough set up to sweep through your Sharpedos, because of their laughable HP.
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it can actually be done turn 2, meaning your opponent would only get 1 turn if you went first; its not hard to get a stage 1 and a basic out by then. so you can potentially stop any deck that uses evolutions. The problem is only having at best a less than 50% for strip bare to work, that and if you dont go first, your opponent might be able to set up and start taking prizes.

basically it will be good when it works, but it wont work enough to do well in any tournaments.
 
It is funny, because you are wrong, and you also complained about being off topic, yet made no attempt to make your post relevant to the thread.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin_flipping

Moreover, their theoretical analysis of the physics of coin tosses predicts a slight bias for a caught coin to be caught the same way up as it was thrown, with a probability of around 0.51, though a subsequent attempt to verify this experimentally gave ambiguous results.[6] Stage magicians and gamblers, with practice, are able to greatly increase this bias, whilst still making throws which are visually indistinguishable from normal throws.[5]

Coin flipping is a purely illogical idealization you're giving a meaning and logic to, basing it off of high school fundamentals doesn't practice the point, for instance, mandibuzz EP, where you flip until you get tails, for each head's do 30 (which i actually think is a decent card if you're a lucky person or just want to mess around), only 50% success rate, at max with fliptini increases the success rate of the coin flip allowing for there to be an additional flip (doing way more damage), that then increases the ratio by 1%, the additional chance to flip towards head's. Like come on I can't believe you're even questioning the fundamentals of all math, physic's and logic.
 
Varit has to be trolling. I even read the article he posted and it proves him wrong. They flipped one (1) coin and found it to be the way it was facing upwards 51% of the time. However, one coin ≠ two coins, so you really can't just stop there and say (51%+51%)/2=51%, which is what you are doing. Which is wrong. It's really wrong.

Anyways, T-tar is still around and it is a mother to take down with a gothitelle deck if they go first. 160hp+20resist = 8 energies on a gothitelle for the ohko. It is a horrible matchup, no matter what anyone says, because they can still ohko you with megaton + sp. dark and you can't do anything to stop it besides lost remover, which is a horrible card to use as your only tech against your worst matchup. And sharpedo is fun to use, even if it fails >50% of the time.
 
Let me give you a simple logic question, If 50% from 100 = 50, what does 0.51 equal?

Nobodys gonna sit there and say 51 = 51, thats ludicris, and just because you don't understand the ethic's of math, why the hell should i have you say no, put me down for trolling or whatever idc, as long as i don't have to type to idiot's who can't even understand the basic fundamentals of the very keyboard they type they're crap to me back on, an ape wouldn't even answer with 51, it would be 49, it's so obvious.
 
This thread has seriously turned into a statistics war. Varit is obviously wrong and foolishly trying to justify his flawed reasoning.
Scizorliscious's maths is definitely correct and applies 100% to this situation, I don't understand why it's so hard to understand basic probability?

This stuff is the basic foundation for statistics at high school. I've already stopped following Varit's senseless trolling on the topic.

As for dark pokemon, there are a lot of combinations, and Hydreigon looks interesting. It would have to be combined with vileplume to be effective imo, due to catcher being in the format. A bulky stage 2 with a 4 energy attack that cannot oneshot the active is too slow to be of use without vileplume, even with DCE.
 
varit, I don't even know what you're trying to say. I'm assuming, for the sake of logic, that heads and tails are equally likely at 50% for each flip. And you know what, I'll explain it a 3rd or 4th time JUST so you can see why you're wrong:

I'll go through each possible outcome of flips, each equally likely.

HH-25%
HT-25%
TH-25%
TT-25%

for the first flips. Obviously, each one will happen 25% of the time.

Now, the first scenario is one in which you will not flip again, BUT for the sake of making each one equal value, I'll go through each combination of 4 flips and show which one has HH at least once.

HH HH-YES
HH HT-YES
HH TH-YES
HH TT-YES
HT HH-YES
HT HT-NO
HT TH-NO
HT TT-NO
TH HH-YES
TH HT-NO
TH TH-NO
TH TT-NO
TT HH-YES
TT HT -NO
TT TH-NO
TT TT-NO

...and those are all the equally likely possiblilities. You'll notice there are 16.

And out of those 16, 7 result in HH flipped at least once, while 9 do not.

7/16=0.4375, or 43.75%.
 
This thread needs to get back on the topic of Dark Pokemon and nothing else (regarding flips or anything else off topic) or this thread will be locked and warnings will be given out.

dmaster out.
 
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