The Pokemon Anime Going DOWNHILL

lol, the anime was never good. They don't know much about the actual game, they make so many errors it's funny.

I can make a typical show in the Pokemon Anime:

-the gang are going to the next city to get Ash's next gym badge
-they meet and stranger
-the stranger says that there's a problem in town (for this case a horde of Magnemite, Magneton and Magnezone are interfering with the radio towers)
-the gang ask to help
-the gang help, and nearly sort out the problem until Team Rocket appear
-Team Rocket get blasted into space
-the stranger invites the gang to dinner
-the stranger reviles himself as the actual gym leader
-they battle next episode

It's so boring everything started with a "t".
 
Dark Marc said:
lol, the anime was never good. They don't know much about the actual game, they make so many errors it's funny.

It's an adaptation really. I don't think it's supposed to be severly accurate with the source material or else it would be to predictable. It's obvious that Pikachu isn't supposed to damage ground types, but thats supposed to make it interesting. Seeing bulbasaur take down a Scyther is supposed to be exciting or awesome because it's nearly impossible to do in the games. Taking liberties with the source material shouldn't be seen as an error. Taking liberties and failing to execute on the altered version should. For example we know Obidiah Stane had little relation to Tony Stark other than being a business rival and not a family friend wanting to take over the company, but that didn't stop the movie from being bad. On the other hand, we know Deadpool is a character known for his mouth and fighting techniques, so sewwing his mouth shut and making him a mindless drone was badly done and went against his character overall.

Again, it doesn't excuse the flaws of the show, but sometimes adaptations need to deviate from source material to give people a reason to watch/read/etc. If every adaptation followed the source material strictly, then why bother watching it? Granted, it would be nice to have the characters/stories/etc. we grew up with having an exact translation from source material in fully realized HD and w/e, but then we'd just have the source material, only prettier.
 
Card Slinger J said:
Am I the only one who thinks Conway is a rip-off of Uryu Ishida from Bleach?

If a Quincy can make it into Pokemon I suppose any Anime character that's not
originally in the Pokemon series can.

Really? Im not into any other anime 'cept Pokemon.

Dark Marc said:
lol, the anime was never good. They don't know much about the actual game, they make so many errors it's funny.

I can make a typical show in the Pokemon Anime:

-the gang are going to the next city to get Ash's next gym badge
-they meet and stranger
-the stranger says that there's a problem in town (for this case a horde of Magnemite, Magneton and Magnezone are interfering with the radio towers)
-the gang ask to help
-the gang help, and nearly sort out the problem until Team Rocket appear
-Team Rocket get blasted into space
-the stranger invites the gang to dinner
-the stranger reviles himself as the actual gym leader
-they battle next episode

It's so boring everything started with a "t".
I agree.

pokemonmaster101 said:
i have been a fan of Pokemon since it came out and now i am turning 20 in a few weeks and i still love it the anime the game all of it. but ill get on with my point and it is that they don't exactly make Pokemon for us older people
they make for kids and as long as there are kids the will be Pokemon all Pokemon anime and everything so stop trying to ruin it for all the little people out there i get it that its ya'lls opinion but if you don't like it don't watch and don't ruin it for every one else

But, back then, Pokemon was enjoyable by all, huh?

PoptartG4791 said:
Sarah Natochenny does the voice for Ash in seasons 9+.

Oh really? :O I thought Veronica Taylor still did, but changed her tone a bit.
 
psyburn said:
It's an adaptation really. I don't think it's supposed to be severly accurate with the source material or else it would be to predictable. It's obvious that Pikachu isn't supposed to damage ground types, but thats supposed to make it interesting. Seeing bulbasaur take down a Scyther is supposed to be exciting or awesome because it's nearly impossible to do in the games. Taking liberties with the source material shouldn't be seen as an error. Taking liberties and failing to execute on the altered version should. For example we know Obidiah Stane had little relation to Tony Stark other than being a business rival and not a family friend wanting to take over the company, but that didn't stop the movie from being bad. On the other hand, we know Deadpool is a character known for his mouth and fighting techniques, so sewwing his mouth shut and making him a mindless drone was badly done and went against his character overall.
Surely they should still have a understanding of the game's psychics though if they're going to make an adaptation?

[SPOILER] PIKACHU WILL HAVE LAZOR EYES GRANTED BY THE POKEMON CENTRE BEACAUSE HE FAINTS BY ARCEUS; THEN DEFEATS ARCEUS WITH THE LAZORS [/SPOLIER]
 
Dark Marc said:
Surely they should still have a understanding of the game's psychics though if they're going to make an adaptation?

I'm not saying "don't follow anything of the source material", because then we'd have another Legend of Chun Li (which is awful on it's own with or without liberties taken) but at least they got the "fire beats water" issues right. And personally I don't think Ghost Attacks hitting normal types is that huge of a deal. The only thing that irks me about "game accuracy" in the show is when Paul becomes one of those frontier trainers.

Strict accuracy would not make the show perfect, is all I am saying. And I think most members of the fanbase dont realize this, or they're looking for literally anything to make the show look worse than it already is.

But, back then, Pokemon was enjoyable to* all, huh?

Nope. A lot of people actually didn't like pokemon (not counting the over zealous controversialists of course).
 
psyburn said:
I'm not saying "don't follow anything of the source material", because then we'd have another Legend of Chun Li (which is awful on it's own with or without liberties taken) but at least they got the "fire beats water" issues right. And personally I don't think Ghost Attacks hitting normal types is that huge of a deal. The only thing that irks me about "game accuracy" in the show is when Paul becomes one of those frontier trainers.

Strict accuracy would not make the show perfect, is all I am saying. And I think most members of the fanbase don't realize this, or they're looking for literally anything to make the show look worse than it already is.
The anime is a disgrace to the game.

Ok, they got some of the games phsycics right but the actual show is very boring as you can see in my previous post.

Dark Marc said:
I can make a typical show in the Pokemon Anime:

-the gang are going to the next city to get Ash's next gym badge
-they meet and stranger
-the stranger says that there's a problem in town (for this case a horde of Magnemite, Magneton and Magnezone are interfering with the radio towers)
-the gang ask to help
-the gang help, and nearly sort out the problem until Team Rocket appear
-Team Rocket get blasted into space
-the stranger invites the gang to dinner
-the stranger reviles himself as the actual gym leader
-they battle next episode

It's so boring everything started with a "t".

The anime has made many people believe that Pokemon is childish and pathetic.
 
I wasn't arguing that the show isn't bad (in fact, I wouldn't want to defend it at this point). I'm just saying that strict accuracy to the source material isn't a requirement for being halfway decent. As long as it's good, I could care less about accuracy... which is why I can't stand what they've done with Justin Hammer...>_>

But that Thunder Armor example was something I was talking about. It's supposed to have something interesting. Whether it was or wasn't is dependent on the viewer. Me? I don't care. I'm still irked about Primeape leaving as soon as he started to listen to Ash >_<
 
Dark Marc said:
Surely they should still have a understanding of the game's psychics though if they're going to make an adaptation?

[SPOILER] PIKACHU WILL HAVE LAZOR EYES GRANTED BY THE POKEMON CENTRE BEACAUSE HE FAINTS BY ARCEUS; THEN DEFEATS ARCEUS WITH THE LAZORS [/SPOLIER]
lawl.
 
I think the best way for them to fix their fan base for the show would be to either bring back a different version of pokemon chronicles (I thought most of these episodes were very neat) or to have a spin off show following Pokemon Adventures/Special. Pokemon Special was just freaking spectacular I'm still reading a lot of it but everything is just so cool. The gym leaders are both good and bad and can be seen as protectors of the town. In the Ruby and Sapphire ark the Elite 4 and champion both play very large central rolls in the story. Almost every battle between the main characters is an epic struggle whether it's red vs blue (green) or Emerald vs. any of the frontier brains.
 
psyburn said:
I wasn't arguing that the show isn't bad (in fact, I wouldn't want to defend it at this point). I'm just saying that strict accuracy to the source material isn't a requirement for being halfway decent. As long as it's good, I could care less about accuracy... which is why I can't stand what they've done with Justin Hammer...>_>

But that Thunder Armor example was something I was talking about. It's supposed to have something interesting. Whether it was or wasn't is dependent on the viewer. Me? I don't care. I'm still irked about Primeape leaving as soon as he started to listen to Ash >_<
But the point is that their so inaccurate it's making it bad.
 
Dark Marc:
Thunder Armor isn't inaccurate towards the games at all.

Did you ever try having a Pikachu use Thunder on itself while flying on a Swellow in the games? No? Of course you didn't.

The anime usually isn't inaccurate, because they do things that can't even be TRIED in the games.
Besides, it makes things more interesting. It's cool.
 
New series starts next week... personally hoping for some good opening music. Anything Johto-y would rock.
 
Joeypals!! said:
Let me put it this way... *Presses America's Got Talent Button* It has gotten terrible, and I've only seen a few episodes! Dawn, where do I start? She is ditsy, dumb, pretty much the stereotype about a blond these days.
Hasslehoff: "Script please!"
Dude: "Here you go."
Hasslehoff: "Hmm... Dawn does something dumb and makes Piplup happy... Hate it! *Punches Guy in Face*"
That pretty much summarizes her. Brock is COMPLETELY unoriginal! Where are is eyes? Can he even see where is is going? How can he cook? For all he knows, he could be in Cyrus's position! The hair style is tacky and just plain... dull, boring, and completely uninteresting.
Hasslehoff: "Brock models, step out! *50 look-alikes come out, all identical* I choose number 43."
#43: "Where am I? *Falls off stage along with 49 others.*"
Hasslehoff: "Stupid people! You never be good, ever! Rachel, dump him from the show!"
Rachel: "But sir, we have invested $100M in him..."
Hasslehoff: "Drat! We'll keep him just a little longer..."
Brock is their crutch. A rusty, rocky, broken crutch. Team Rocket, please! They remind me of Shaggy and Scooby after they eat large quantities, yet it all disappears... I won't even go to Hasslehoff for the these three IDIOTS and Ash. These four not only share stupidity, but I won't go there. I will cuss otherwise.

Feel the exact same way now as I did then.
 
FireMeowth said:
Dark Marc:
Thunder Armor isn't inaccurate towards the games at all.

Did you ever try having a Pikachu use Thunder on itself while flying on a Swellow in the games? No? Of course you didn't.

The anime usually isn't inaccurate, because they do things that can't even be TRIED in the games.
Besides, it makes things more interesting. It's cool.

^ What he said.
 
Way too many agreeing posts in this thread... *hands out warnings*

Make an original post, just quoting someone and saying you agree is lazy and is considered spam.
 
For me The original is always the best but I still like the newer episodes but you never see them stopping and goofing all that much like they used to. Meaning taking a break and go to stores and do other stuff. You see it much rarely now. Before it was just raising Pokemon and battling here and there but I remember hearing back when season 8 started the viewers want more twards battling and more hard core style. It has been that way for too long. It needs to go back to the old days and the way it used to be.:)
 
It turns out Season 13 is getting delayed til this Summer and it's called "Pokemon: Sinnoh League Victors." Until then Cartoon Network is going to be airing Reruns of "Pokemon: Galactic Battles" a.k.a. Season 12.

Wow that sucks doesn't it. Gotta give them time to dub the episodes of course. I remember how Viz Media was like that dubbing Bleach and when it ran out of Dubs to air they delayed with reruns until they had new dubs to air.
 
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