The Topic of Ghosts.
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@Shadow Arceus. It really doesn't take that much. Living near a power plant for example may cause the feeling of an eerie presence, of course this is nothing more but an illusion. Research has shown that even things like, living near a highway may cause this, especially when a tunnel is near. The cars moving through the tunnel will cause waves not detectable by the human ear, this is also one of the many causes.
Though I have to admit, I don't think there is an electromagnetic field big enough near a normal house to cause objects flying around, unless it is faked of course.
@#1weavile. And are you willing to prove the existence of a deity in order to do so? But, seriously, this discussion won't harm anybody, people might even learn from this. Nobody forced you to post in this thread. If you don't like it, don't post here.
Though I have to admit, I don't think there is an electromagnetic field big enough near a normal house to cause objects flying around, unless it is faked of course.
@#1weavile. And are you willing to prove the existence of a deity in order to do so? But, seriously, this discussion won't harm anybody, people might even learn from this. Nobody forced you to post in this thread. If you don't like it, don't post here.
Sorry, gravity was a bad example. The point I was trying to make was that we make things logical with the knowledge we already have. If we know how to prove gravity exists, soon we might be able to prove spirits(still not saying ghosts) exist.
My personal belief is that what happens is that people WANT to have thing that are yet to be discovered. There is an entire field about stuff like this, called Cryptozoology. Its a field of science 100% devoted to things like Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monster, Ghosts, ect. So people make themselves believe in stuff so they have something yet to discover. Kinda like space, because otherwise why would we explore out there? And please don't flame me xD
What ghosts REALLY are: Chuck Norris kills people faster than death can process them; therefore= ghosts.
Anyway, I think I do believe in ghosts, but I'm not sure why. As stated before, there is no evidence to disprove or prove ghosts. But I think it is funny when on the ghost hunting shows, the hunters go into an extremely old house and claim it is haunted. They hear a noise and freak out, but it's not like the REALLY OLD house is really old therefore making creaking noises. Lol.
~JE~
Anyway, I think I do believe in ghosts, but I'm not sure why. As stated before, there is no evidence to disprove or prove ghosts. But I think it is funny when on the ghost hunting shows, the hunters go into an extremely old house and claim it is haunted. They hear a noise and freak out, but it's not like the REALLY OLD house is really old therefore making creaking noises. Lol.
~JE~
Cryptozoology actually only refers to undiscovered animals, not ghosts, hence the zoology part. (zoology means 'study of animals') Idk about ghosts, but bigfoot and friends do have a whole field of science behind them because there are a lot of things to examine to try confirm the existence of those creatures. A lot of times it relates to prehistoric animals not being extinct or evolving. For example, the coelocanth (what Relicanth is based off of) was thought to be long extinct until one was found washed up on a beach in Africa.
Anyway, I'm done with this rather off-topic post now.
Anyway, I'm done with this rather off-topic post now.
@HypnoticLuxray. It's obvious now that you're prevoking the question; Why do say spirits instead of ghosts? (this topic is about ''ghosts'' after all) So here you are, you have your question. Anyway, the difference between gravity and ghosts is that gravity is an observable fact and ghosts are nothing more than a mere illusion created by your own fantasy. There is no evidence for ghosts, therefore no reason to assume people ''discover'' ghosts soon.
@venasour x. We don't make ourselves believe that there are undiscovered things in space so we have an excuse to go out there and discover it. We observe space, because we assume there is still a lot to be discovered (and to be honest, assuming we do know everything is a bit pathetic). Anyway through observation we make our discoveries, not because we hunt after them.
@Meaty. Actually, the Coelacanth was found in a big group rather than one washed up ashore.
@venasour x. We don't make ourselves believe that there are undiscovered things in space so we have an excuse to go out there and discover it. We observe space, because we assume there is still a lot to be discovered (and to be honest, assuming we do know everything is a bit pathetic). Anyway through observation we make our discoveries, not because we hunt after them.
@Meaty. Actually, the Coelacanth was found in a big group rather than one washed up ashore.
Pokequaza's right. I should learn from my mishaps, and think reasonably.
PS, PMJ, that wasn't nice. It's like saying my thread is dumb.( Ya it is...)
PS, PMJ, that wasn't nice. It's like saying my thread is dumb.( Ya it is...)
Look guys, all of you who protest, "Bit my friend has SEEN a ghost!" and, "Gravity is illogical!" you're fighting a losing battle. It is blatantly obvious that PokeQuaza is right, and I agree with him for once. I'm not saying you disagree with him, but may be at a point where you no longer disagree with him. And it's a warning to all the other people who may come and go, "IVE SEEN A GOST SO TEY MUST BE REALL."
I've seen a ghost with my own eyes. Take a look at Meaty's avatar; the nose is obviously a ghost. (Ghost is easier to see with bigger picture) ;P
~JE~
~JE~
The evidence that you read about ghosts is often greatly exaggerated. Unless you've seen one yourself, you really haven't got too much ground to stand on.
@Meaty. Why do you assume it was my intention to change your point in the first place? I just corrected you on a mistake. Personally I find it a big difference between finding one washed up ashore (probably dead) and finding a whole group of them alive and in a healthy condition, indicating that they might not even be endangered. Anyway, this was just a correction.
@Alvin and the Minezumis. And even then, if you think you have seen one with your own eyes. How do you know the difference between the fact that it might be an illusion or not. The point is that the thing that people describe as a ghost goes against most, if not all, of that what we've discovered about nature. Plus, ghosts don't have evidence supporting them. So in short terms, you don't really need to ''see'' a ghost or speak with someone who thinks he/she has seen one. Just by looking around you can conclude that the existence of a ghost would be illogical, it contradicts everything, and has nothing to support it.
@Alvin and the Minezumis. And even then, if you think you have seen one with your own eyes. How do you know the difference between the fact that it might be an illusion or not. The point is that the thing that people describe as a ghost goes against most, if not all, of that what we've discovered about nature. Plus, ghosts don't have evidence supporting them. So in short terms, you don't really need to ''see'' a ghost or speak with someone who thinks he/she has seen one. Just by looking around you can conclude that the existence of a ghost would be illogical, it contradicts everything, and has nothing to support it.
Of course, that would make me look more intelligent than other people on this forum. It's a simple strategy, but on the other hand I also want to avoid as much errors and mistakes as possible. Therefore I feel a need to correct you, people might take over your mistake and unknowingly pass this mistake over on other people, which creates even more misunderstanding. And like I said before the way you spoke about the coelacanth was if the animal is critically endagered these days and you need to be lucky to encounter one, while they actually seem to be pretty common around the east coasts of Africa.
But trust me on this, I won't read your posts over and over in order to find a mistake. Yours was just too obvious to overlook, therefore I had to correct you. It's nothing personal.
But trust me on this, I won't read your posts over and over in order to find a mistake. Yours was just too obvious to overlook, therefore I had to correct you. It's nothing personal.
I know, that was a bad mistake. But the fact that they are common only furthers my point about cryptozoology and how some creatures are more likely to exist than they are given credit for. Ghosts are an entire different field though, as far as I'm concerned, so we should stop this discussion.
It's a bit hard to say a ghost is the working of the mind. I just want to know on this theory of yours, how do you explain physical evidence? Like temp. dropping, random footsteps with no one around, and doors (and don't give me a slanted house/easily closable door explanation) opening. There is in NO WAY that that could be something of the mind.
I am a believer and a non believer at the same time.I t is hard to argue to an expert. I believe in ghosts and my friends did a ritual thing and a ghost appeared and the beetle exploded.[I forgot to say it was in a jar as an offering.] So i rest my case,they could or could not exist.
Ahhhhh, On christmas morning there were footprints in the fite place ashes. [they are continuing too.]
Ahhhhh, On christmas morning there were footprints in the fite place ashes. [they are continuing too.]
