The UnCollege Movement

Is College Necessary for Success?

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Well there are different sides to UnCollege. There will always be the lazy kids who, if they didn't go to college, would do nothing all day. It depends on the student.
 
You misread me. That "6 year old [who] takes charge of her education" - as you put it - "spends her time watching TV, doing arts and crafts or practicing the piano" (pulled form the article you linked). All of these could be done with dedication even on a normal school schedule. There was nothing that the article mentioned that actually makes her stand out... other than the fact she's not taking classes. There's no direction to her activities.
 
College as it seems now is becoming another form of social stratification. All sorts of jobs want you to have some sort of degree, even if it's not related to the field. Going to college is just some sort of proof that you finished something you began. Employers keep upping the ante though, making the requirements higher and higher. Someone who has a bachelors or masters isn't always better for the job than someone with a so-called lesser qualification. I can understand the need for education in teaching, medicine, business, and engineering -maybe even art, but after that it gets sketchy. Bachelors in Game Design?... I'd expect to see more great games, then.
 
Clearly college is not the ONLY path to success. I have a friend who didn't graduate high school but at 30 he's pulling in 120k a year no joke. He happened to get into computers at the right time with the right people and is very smart and detail oriented and is a network admin at a local company.

However, I would never use him as a reason not to go to college. He is the exception, not the rule. I on the other hand have my college degree and am still a janitor at a college because where I live there are seriously no jobs. He and I are the same age, grew up together, had identical financial situations growing up (poor, raised by our grandparents) so yeah, you never know.

For the most part though, I would recommend going to college if you want a career that requires it.
 
Zyflair said:
You misread me. That "6 year old [who] takes charge of her education" - as you put it - "spends her time watching TV, doing arts and crafts or practicing the piano" (pulled form the article you linked). All of these could be done with dedication even on a normal school schedule. There was nothing that the article mentioned that actually makes her stand out... other than the fact she's not taking classes. There's no direction to her activities.
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If I take any 6 year old and told him that he didn't have to go to school, he would probably be in front of the television all day. That 6 year is actually doing activities that interest here. That arts and crafts or playing the piano could become her future job someday.
 
I absolutely fail to see how that is any different from doing arts and crafts/playing the piano while going to school, unless she is clearly spending hours on each.
 
Real musicians do not go to music school, real film makers do not go to film school, and real lawyers do not go to law school. Case closed.

never eating of the disc,
hatedisc
 
Zyflair said:
I absolutely fail to see how that is any different from doing arts and crafts/playing the piano while going to school, unless she is clearly spending hours on each.
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She is interested in doing those activities on her own without anyone telling her what to do unlike in school where you are forced to do whatever they say.
 
hatedisc said:
Real musicians do not go to music school, real film makers do not go to film school, and real lawyers do not go to law school. Case closed.
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I never got the chance to say it before, but you are just awesome sometimes.

#1weavile said:
She is interested in doing those activities on her own without anyone telling her what to do unlike in school where you are forced to do whatever they say.
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Want to do =/= Should do. From the looks of things, she's a dedicated craftsman/pianist. And if she were to take upon piano as a career choice, then formal education from a university is inevitable. Either that, or a costly world-renowned tutor.

What exactly is your point? People becoming educated how they want to? How would that make soceity better? A vast number of jobs can't be done with some type of formal instruction or training.
 
Being unschooled is not for everyone. Most people wouldn't even take the time to learn anything when they're not in school.
 
Then we're dealing with a psychological aspect here: some people have the initiative and motivation to become educated on their own. Many do not. These "many" require something to make them look worthwhile for some decent job, so they would require certification or a formal degree. Very rarely will these people think of an opportunity to find a good job without the need for "school".
 
Zyflair said:
Then we're dealing with a psychological aspect here: some people have the initiative and motivation to become educated on their own. Many do not. These "many" require something to make them look worthwhile for some decent job, so they would require certification or a formal degree. Very rarely will these people think of an opportunity to find a good job without the need for "school".
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But you don't need a job to be successful in life. But you're right, most people won't take the time and energy into starting a business.
 
I think it depends on each person. For some people it helps but it wont work for everyone.
I want to go to college because the partucular one i want to go to is roght for me, but a lot of people dont need it so i think the desicion should be in the peoples' hands
 
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