Help The "What Should I Buy?" Thread

I'm new to Pokemon TCG and I'm interested in starting to collect the cards and play with my kids (yes, I'm old). My question is what cards should I be collecting to build a deck? XY or Flashfire? I'd like to play in the local league we have and I also have been playing Pokemon X on 3ds. I'm not familiar with a lot of the Pokemon and the evolutions in the 3DS game, so I thought collecting the XY cards would help me get a better feel for the Pokemon in the game. My daughter seems to like a lot of the cards in the training deck I bought. On the flip side, should I be getting all Flashfire cards since they're the "latest and greatest"? I know I used to get upset playing Magic: The Gathering because cards became unusable in tournament play after what seemed like too short of time. I wasn't sure if that was going to be the case with XY. I also like the fact that you can get the XY fat packs for a reasonable price.

So - where should I begin? What makes the most sense for a beginner that wants to have cards that can be used in the foreseeable future as well as be able to build a fun semi-competitive deck without blowing a ton of cash?
 
YooperDude said:
I'm new to Pokemon TCG and I'm interested in starting to collect the cards and play with my kids (yes, I'm old). My question is what cards should I be collecting to build a deck? XY or Flashfire? I'd like to play in the local league we have and I also have been playing Pokemon X on 3ds. I'm not familiar with a lot of the Pokemon and the evolutions in the 3DS game, so I thought collecting the XY cards would help me get a better feel for the Pokemon in the game. My daughter seems to like a lot of the cards in the training deck I bought. On the flip side, should I be getting all Flashfire cards since they're the "latest and greatest"? I know I used to get upset playing Magic: The Gathering because cards became unusable in tournament play after what seemed like too short of time. I wasn't sure if that was going to be the case with XY. I also like the fact that you can get the XY fat packs for a reasonable price.

So - where should I begin? What makes the most sense for a beginner that wants to have cards that can be used in the foreseeable future as well as be able to build a fun semi-competitive deck without blowing a ton of cash?

I myself have not been playing for very long (a little over a year), so take what I have to say with a grain of salt.

If you're choosing between XY and Flashfire, it's a difficult decision to make, and honestly one I would not make. Both sets have their share of competitive cards, but I would not say that you could devise any meaningful strategy from either set alone. If you're getting into the game and looking to play competitively, I would always start with the staple cards: common supporters and items such as N (an older card from the BW series), Professor Sycamore (in XY), ultra ball (In Flashfire), muscle band (in XY) etc. You'll find that these cards alone (at least in multiples of 3-4) can speed up decks and make games a lot more fun. Note that though many of the cards I listed are from the two most recent sets, they are far from a complete list.

Since you're concerned about cards being competitively usable, I'll say that there's not much reason for alarm. Almost all leagues allow unlimited play (all sets allowed, whether or not they're currently in format) for friendly play. With regards to competitive play, sets almost always stay in format for at least 2 years after release before they're rotate, and strong or staple cards often get reprinted in later sets to stay in format longer (such as rare candy, a card that's been in format for over 10 years!). I should mention that sets get rotated in groups of 3-5 at a time, and since they almost always start at least one season with the first set of an era (such as Black and White or XY), XY and Flashfire will almost definitely be rotated at the same time.

With regards to cheaper competitive decks, you're in good luck. The current format has tons of variety, meaning that you can see great success even without spending money buying rare and powerful cards. Obviously the strongest archetypes are the most popular ones (and thus tend to be the most expensive) but only a few stretch to the hundred's of dollars mark. The Pokemon Company (the runners of the game) also like to throw us competitive players generous bones by reprinting the strongest cards in promo tins which can be purchased for far less than their original prints (especially if you purchase the promo cards alone second hand).

For perspective, the cheapest 'competitive' decks (many of which are still strong) start at around ~$70USD (ESTIMATE) to build from scratch. That number drops a good bit once you have the staple cards. The bigger archetypes often float around ~$120 - 150 USD, and the very most expensive decks reach in excess of $350USD (and I should point out that we are at a rare point in the current format where there is a single card -- tropical beach -- which is not only a strong card often played in multiples, but is also very expensive at >$120USD a piece!).

If you're not interested in reading all that text, I'll summarize: don't collect cards from just one set to be competitive. Try and get the staple cards and build decks with those. If you're looking for neat deck ideas, or want to get feedback on your own, check out the deck garage sub-forum.



And most of all, have fun!
 
My suggestion would be to look up the big decks in the current metagame, see what cards they're using, and tweak it to your liking with the help of the Deck Garage here. :) Your best best would be to buy single cards (or playsets) on eBay, where you only buy the cards you need for your deck.
 
Thanks for the great responses guys. I also have a bit of OCD when it comes to collecting - I like collecting things. I don't know why - I just do. I'd like to get the complete XY set if I could. I have a few cards and I just like the artwork and my daughter likes a lot of the cards as well. Is it extremely difficult/expensive to complete an entire set? I'm half tempted to go and buy one of the XY fat packs and use the boosters with the trainer deck I got just to get started and get a feel for the game. I didn't want to buy a "theme deck" because I was worried about getting multiples of some "garbage" cards that I wouldn't use in the future. Plus, opening boosters is addictive and satisfying. :)
 
Theme decks are not that competitve at all but at the same time some theme decks give you some of the trainers or energy you will need to build a competitve deck.

As far as cards that will be legal for a while, you could get cards from the plasma storm. plasma freeze, plasma blast, legendary tresures, and xy sets. All of the sets that i have named will most likly be in the format for at least a year.
 
So, I started playing the Pokémon TCG late 2008 and played until after the release of BW Dragons Exalted. I took a small break to focus on my study. Now that that's done, I've been looking into playing the TCG again, but I think I'm lacking a lot of good stuff. I've got pretty much all the staples until Dragons Exalted and of course the necessary equipment (playmat, deckboxes, sleeves, dices, damage counters, binders, etc).

What are the things I need to buy to get back into the game fast? I've got all basic Energy Cards (except for the Fairy energy cards). As for my budget, preferably as cheap as possible. I won't play tournaments in the current season (isn't possible either I think, with only nats and worlds left) but I probably will next season, so it would be cool if you could keep a possible rotation in mind. Thanks in advance!
 
Pharetra have you thought that much about what type of deck you would like to play.

Some of the staples in the current meta would include cards like proffesor juniper/ or proffesor sycamore, N, Colress, Skyla, and searching cards like ultra balls. If you start with around 3-4 of the cards mentioned you will be able to use them in multiple decks.

Cards from plasma storm. plasma freeze, plasma blast, legendary tresures, and the xy sets, should be legal for at least the next year so i would focuss on getting cards from those sets instead of cards from older sets.
 
Pharetra said:
So, I started playing the Pokémon TCG late 2008 and played until after the release of BW Dragons Exalted. I took a small break to focus on my study. Now that that's done, I've been looking into playing the TCG again, but I think I'm lacking a lot of good stuff. I've got pretty much all the staples until Dragons Exalted and of course the necessary equipment (playmat, deckboxes, sleeves, dices, damage counters, binders, etc).

What are the things I need to buy to get back into the game fast? I've got all basic Energy Cards (except for the Fairy energy cards). As for my budget, preferably as cheap as possible. I won't play tournaments in the current season (isn't possible either I think, with only nats and worlds left) but I probably will next season, so it would be cool if you could keep a possible rotation in mind. Thanks in advance!

Since Dragons Exalted, some of the new staples are Skyla (3-4 copies per deck, if any), Computer Search (1) (both of which are possibly rotating), Colress (2-4), Muscle Band (3-4), Professor's Letter (1-2), Float Stone (1-3), Escape Rope (1), Startling Megaphone (1-2), Dowsing Machine (1), Lysandre (1-2), Keldeo EX (1-2) and Jirachi EX (1). For a deck, one of the cheapest, pretty competitive options is Pyroar/Flareon/Raichu (20-25 dollars for the Pokemon line). One of the cheapest, very competitive options is Yveltal EX/Darkrai EX (40-50 dollars for the Pokemon line). If you want to see what all the popular decks are right now, you can check out the NXD-On Metagame Deck Discussion sub-forum (in TCG Competitive Play). There's a thread for almost every archetype in the format, with skeleton lists and discussion on almost all of those.
 
Flashfire Theme Decks

hi it's my birthday soon and i was wondering if the two new flashfire decks brilliant thunder and mystic typhoon are good for competitive battles and if they have a variety of strong and weak pokemon

thanks -wrestlinglord
 
RE: Flashfire Theme Decks

Theme decks aren't, and never have been very strong for competitive battle. If you mean battling them against each other (with a friend, for example), then generally they seem pretty even. They each have their little advantages and disadvantages.
 
RE: Flashfire Theme Decks

Auride said:
Theme decks are, and never have been very strong for competitive battle. If you mean battling them against each other (with a friend, for example), then generally they seem pretty even. They each have their little advantages and disadvantages.

thanks im a card collector mainly but i also like to battle so i was just wondering thanks again
 
Price Range: ~90$
What I'm looking to buy: Sealed Pokemon Booster Boxes of any language to open for my youtube channel.
Choices:

XY Rising Fist Booster Box + Mega Lucario Box (I like Japanese cards, and my printer doesn't work so I could use these as proxies.)

XY Flashfire Booster Box (Charizard EX Makes good trade material, quite a few staple trainers)

4-5 Korean Booster Boxes (Good Variety, Would make a lot of videos)

What do you guys think?
 
Ivysaurman said:
Price Range: ~90$
What I'm looking to buy: Sealed Pokemon Booster Boxes of any language to open for my youtube channel.
Choices:

XY Rising Fist Booster Box + Mega Lucario Box (I like Japanese cards, and my printer doesn't work so I could use these as proxies.)

XY Flashfire Booster Box (Charizard EX Makes good trade material, quite a few staple trainers)

4-5 Korean Booster Boxes (Good Variety, Would make a lot of videos)

What do you guys think?

Personally I would go with Korean, if it's for your channel. You can make more videos if you do more than 1 part per box.

What boxes are you planning to get?
 
Ivysaurman said:
Price Range: ~90$
What I'm looking to buy: Sealed Pokemon Booster Boxes of any language to open for my youtube channel.
Choices:

XY Rising Fist Booster Box + Mega Lucario Box (I like Japanese cards, and my printer doesn't work so I could use these as proxies.)

XY Flashfire Booster Box (Charizard EX Makes good trade material, quite a few staple trainers)

4-5 Korean Booster Boxes (Good Variety, Would make a lot of videos)

What do you guys think?

You should get more views with Flashfire.
 
Ivysaurman said:
Price Range: ~90$
What I'm looking to buy: Sealed Pokemon Booster Boxes of any language to open for my youtube channel.
Choices:

XY Rising Fist Booster Box + Mega Lucario Box (I like Japanese cards, and my printer doesn't work so I could use these as proxies.)

XY Flashfire Booster Box (Charizard EX Makes good trade material, quite a few staple trainers)

4-5 Korean Booster Boxes (Good Variety, Would make a lot of videos)

What do you guys think?


If you're doing it for views, the best way to capitalize is to upload on the days before, day of, or at most 3 days after the release of the object being opened.
 
He knows his stuff :), Flashfire has been out over a month so I would go with the Korean boxes. Korean cards are getting increasingly popular, but depends if you're a collector or player?


They are also enjoyable to open, and you get more bang for your buck per say. Though in the end result, majority of the cards have little monetry value.
 
ForeignDude said:
Ivysaurman said:
Price Range: ~90$
What I'm looking to buy: Sealed Pokemon Booster Boxes of any language to open for my youtube channel.
Choices:

XY Rising Fist Booster Box + Mega Lucario Box (I like Japanese cards, and my printer doesn't work so I could use these as proxies.)

XY Flashfire Booster Box (Charizard EX Makes good trade material, quite a few staple trainers)

4-5 Korean Booster Boxes (Good Variety, Would make a lot of videos)

What do you guys think?


If you're doing it for views, the best way to capitalize is to upload on the days before, day of, or at most 3 days after the release of the object being opened.

The latest release is XY Rising Fist Booster Box + Mega Lucario Box and there are many Japanese collectors. So you could get a fair number of views.
 
Before I give my price range and other information, it's important to know that I'm a collector. I just recently got into competitive play. So I'm really asking if I should buy some Japanese boxes to collect, and buy singles for new decks.

Price Range: $200
What I'm looking to buy: Japanese or English booster boxes.
Choices:

6-7 Rising Fist Booster Boxes(This is when buying from AmiAmi and including shipping)

2 XY Furious Fists Booster Boxes
 
I would go with XY Furious Fists Boxes, you can sell of trade off what you don't need for stuff you do need. The chances of you getting something good is quite high with two boxes. Though because the set isn't out, we don't know the pull rates yet.

With the Japanese most boxes have come with 1 SR/UR only a few have come without one.
 
[split] The Tin or Promo Box "Pull Rates" Thread

Got a message from eBay. They're giving me a $20-off coupon. Should I use it to get one of the new tins? Or, should I get a Charizard Ex box? Which is more likely to produce good pulls? Either way, getting a free tin/box is already a win, but I'd still like to get something good :D
 
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