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I don't think there's a legal card that lets you fetch any spell that allows you to use it on the same turn...how did he get 3 Preparation of Rites every single first turn?
 
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don()shinobi said:
I don't think there's a legal card that lets you fetch any spell that allows you to use it on the same turn...how did he get 3 Preparation of Rites every single first turn?
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he searched for all of his gishki's with things like shadow, etc.

then he'd upstart upstart upstart one day of peace one day of peace one day of peace, morray of greed, morray of greed morray of greed into the void into the void into the void drop the gishki that let's you send all gishki cards out of your top 5 to the grave and went broke.
 
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don()shinobi said:
>He runs Upstart
I can't stop laughing
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You don't understand how good a 1 for one draw with virtually no drawback is in the deck, Upstart is the reason Chain Exodia even exists with Hope for Escape, Upstart isn't ideal, but when the point of your deck is to go and either otk or loop all draw is good draw.
 
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Total YuGiOh noob here.

So with Red Eyes limited, is there any other easy ways of summoning Gustav other than having Metal Reflect Slime?
 
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Project_Fedora said:
You don't understand how good a 1 for one draw with virtually no drawback is in the deck, Upstart is the reason Chain Exodia even exists with Hope for Escape, Upstart isn't ideal, but when the point of your deck is to go and either otk or loop all draw is good draw.
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Then why use Upstart outside of Hope for Escape Exodia? You're giving your opponent 1000 LP just so you can draw 1...if you wouldn't have run Upstart, then you would have gotten a different card instead at random, which is exactly what is drawn with Upstart.

ForeignDude said:
Total YuGiOh noob here.

So with Red Eyes limited, is there any other easy ways of summoning Gustav other than having Metal Reflect Slime?
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Galaxy Queen's Light.
 
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Then why use Upstart outside of Hope for Escape Exodia?
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I fixed it for you.

Upstart is just good draw power for any deck that needs it, period.
 
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Massive don-fedora post chain gogogo.

And on the topic of Upstart, I agree with Fedora and DNA. I actually side it in a couple of decks in case I feel that I'm needing draw power, which isn't too often. But for stuff like Exodia, it's mandatory, and it would certainly help Gishkis as well, even if you're running Moray.
 
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I'd rather run Into the Void over Upstart -_-
If I want my opponent to gain 1000, I'd much rather use Soul Taker.
 
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don()shinobi said:
I'd rather run Into the Void over Upstart -_-
If I want my opponent to gain 1000, I'd much rather use Soul Taker.
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You're missing the point of running upstart, in something like hand looping your opponents LP doesn't matter, you force them into topdeck mode while you just get to hammer away at them., 6 one for one draw cards, 3 3 for 3 draw cards and 9 searchers (technically 12) 3 -1 draw cards for 3 ritual and 3 monsters is pretty consistent.
 
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No, I'm not missing the point. I just don't see the point in giving my opponent life points when I can use Into the Void or even Jar of Greed to the exact same effect.
 
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don()shinobi said:
No, I'm not missing the point. I just don't see the point in giving my opponent life points when I can use Into the Void or even Jar of Greed to the exact same effect.
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Jar of greed takes a turn, he's already running void, its just consistency boosting \=
 
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...yes, but Jar can be chained to things that destroy it, making them waste destruction resources. If you really want to try to do a hand loop, then by all means, run whatever you want, but trying to get all 3 Gustkraken in my hand is simply a waste of my time. The Hieratic Gishki loop not only requires 1 Gustkraken, but you go into Photon Strike Bounzer when you're all done with it, making counterattacks difficult.

And yes, I realize that getting out 3 Gustkraken allows you to get into Bounzer as well. But that doesn't change the fact that you need 1 Gustkraken to discard 3 cards. Much better than having 3 Gustkraken getting rid of 4 cards, if I do say so myself.
 
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don()shinobi said:
And yes, I realize that getting out 3 Gustkraken allows you to get into Bounzer as well. But that doesn't change the fact that you need 1 Gustkraken to discard 3 cards. Much better than having 3 Gustkraken getting rid of 4 cards, if I do say so myself.
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You can hit a bad hand in gishki heriatic loop, its practically impossible in this build, if gustkraken wasn't getting hit he would of taken this to our YCS coming up.
 
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...I...I apologize, but...I have no words. Except these.

1. I've been playing Hieratic Gishkis before the majority of the playerbase even knew about it. I think I know how it works. You don't need to pull off the loop for the deck to function; Gishkis aren't the only things you have in the deck. You have Hieratics, and the two work perfectly well with or without each other.

2. Every single deck that has and ever will exist in the history of forever has dozens of bad hands. I don't care if your deck is the most consistent in the world, you are going to get a combination of cards that simply do not work. Talking about how many bad hands a deck gets is invalid, null, and void.

3. The hand loop isn't required to happen on the first turn. If you don't pull it off on the first turn, it's not like you can't pull it off for the rest of the game. Chances are most players will conserve their resources and not go completely out on their first turn unless they can absolutely guarantee victory, and if that happens to be the case, chances are you've already lost (Until we get a legally playable Zeal Gigas, that is). If your opponent conserves resources, then you can still get off a good couple discards.

...I'm done with this topic. I'm just...done.
 
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In other news, my trusted source I use has posted the banlist

http://ocg-card.com/limit/

FORBIDDEN
Future Fusion
Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier

LIMITED
Inzektor Hornet
Inzektor Dragonfly
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
Chaos Sorcerer
Spore
Evigishki Gustkraken
Tsukuyomi
Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaity
Ultimate Offering

SEMI-LIMITED
Tour Guide from the Underworld
Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow
The Agent of Mystery - Earth
Rescue Rabbit
Debris Dragon
Hieratic Seal of Convocation
Pot of Duality
Reasoning
A Hero Lives
E - Emergency Call
Mirror Force

UNLIMITED
Necro Gardna
Marshmallon
Emergency Teleport
Destiny Draw
Swords of Revealing Light
Level Limit Area B
Magic Cylinder
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My friends and I had a big testing session and we found that Heroes, Sams, Darkworld, LS, Anti-Meta Gadgets and Dino Rabbit were still good in the list [Sams and DW moreso]

Inzektors and Wind-ups have been pushed out of tier one, possibly tier 1.5-tier 2

As much as I wanted it to work Diamond Dude Turbo isn't as consistent without Dmoc and Dimension Fusion, but that's straight Diamond Dude Turbo, I'm going to be Trying Alive Diamond dude and other Variants later this week.
 
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I myself want to make a new hero build. Perhaps we can work on one. Right now I have Omni Hero.

I have six decks, they are:

Dragon Chaos
Malefic Geartown
Onmi Hero
Fairy Agents
Photon
Fiend

Now from that list above, I know that my hero deck needs updated. My dragon deck is pretty much dead. So I was thinking of merging it with what I have for my photon deck so far. Maybe mix it with some fiend cards. I don't know.

I just know my machine deck, and fairy deck are okay. Which makes me happy :3
 
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I'd go for the Fairy Agents deck. With Earth now at 2 they have a bit more potential, and Kristya + Hyperion is still an incredibly strong field presence.
 
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Yakkov said:
I myself want to make a new hero build. Perhaps we can work on one. Right now I have Omni Hero.

I have six decks, they are:

Dragon Chaos
Malefic Geartown
Onmi Hero
Fairy Agents
Photon
Fiend

Now from that list above, I know that my hero deck needs updated. My dragon deck is pretty much dead. So I was thinking of merging it with what I have for my photon deck so far. Maybe mix it with some fiend cards. I don't know.

I just know my machine deck, and fairy deck are okay. Which makes me happy :3
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agents got better, earth moved to 2.
 
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Yakkov said:
I myself want to make a new hero build. Perhaps we can work on one. Right now I have Omni Hero.

I have six decks, they are:

Dragon Chaos
Malefic Geartown
Onmi Hero
Fairy Agents
Photon
Fiend

Now from that list above, I know that my hero deck needs updated. My dragon deck is pretty much dead. So I was thinking of merging it with what I have for my photon deck so far. Maybe mix it with some fiend cards. I don't know.

I just know my machine deck, and fairy deck are okay. Which makes me happy :3
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Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon being at 1 is not the end of the world. Reborn, Heavy, and Dark Hole are at 1 and people still play those, right? REDMD is as important to Dragons as those 3 cards are to almost every other deck. Be happy that it's not banned, as it could have very easily been so.

Also, screw those decks, play Clown Control. :3
 
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