Speculation [Theory] The Next Pokemon Games

Well it's not like we went looking for a "pattern".

At least myself I was hoping Zygarde would do something as original as Kyurems gimmick was, not actually repeat the same one... And I haven't even seen anyone make the agrument that Zygarde would go Kyurem-style BECAUSE Kyurem did it... rather than because of the hidden moves being two and both clones of the existing Zygarde sig-move (the fact they're clones with added effect pretty much implies that Lands Wrath CHANGES to one of them upon form-change rather than those being moves it can learn additionally), it's even more obvious than for Kyurems case, because its form-sig-moves (Ice Burn/Freeze Shock) are merely counterparts, while replacing a weaker unique signature move (Glaciate), whereas Zygardes are all variations of the same move.

But all it means is that Zygarde will get 2 new designs, not how or what kind of changes they'll be.
Two designs however implies 2 versions a second time around. I was surprised that they would repeat it with the third mascot having 2 designs (when BW2 happened, I thought gen 6 would also do 2 sequels, but that they'd have 2 "third mascot" legends prepared instead of just one)...especially when XY didn't even do anything noteworthy in terms of version differences etc...

And relation to Xerneas/Yveltal also isn't due to expecting "patterns", but rather comes from speculating about the moves themselves. Arrows hits airborne pokemon by throwing arrows in the sky (Y-axis), whereas Waves expands a horizontal wave (X-axis) trapping grounded opponents.
This is likely intentional, but doesn't necessarily mean a repeat of fusions...at most it might imply confrontation with one of the other mascots, which happens to fit its theme about bringing balance.

tl;dr
there are no predictive patterns and there never were - and it's not the reason we expect 2 designs and mascot confrontation.
 
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Now that you guys are talking, I don't know where that ideia of Zygarde fusing with Xerneas/Yveltal came from... I never even consider that possibility as I think it's unlikely and doesn't make any sense anyway... I'm more in favor of what Mitja just said: confrontation between Zygarde and one of the other two...
 
I've run into some truly godawful designs for this "fusion", so people are definitely thinking about it. But it just can't be done; any design with zygarde and xerneas comes up as just incredibly tacky (there is a reason why xerneas's body is cobalt and black), and zygarde and yveltal would look just too spiky to be a pokemon.
Not to mention the sheer bodily differences on the three pokemon; kyurem was only possible because it was very much like zekrom and reshiram, so they all share and augment each other's features harmonically.

The confrontation has been fairly self-explained to me from the beginning, honestly; it's quite obvious that zygarde's new moves (and its ability) are tailor-made to deal with xerneas and yveltal, just as air lock was tailor made to counter drought and drizzle before it.
They might not mean new forms (but they likely do), but the purpose of the moves is clear.
 
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Well we've got our first real hint towards the next Pokemon game. According to Serebii, a trailer for the next movie was shown that will be releasing in Summer 2016. Any guesses as to who the star is? I'll give you a hint, his name begins with a Z.

I'm calling it, XY2 is coming out in Fall 2016.
 
Well we've got our first real hint towards the next Pokemon game. According to Serebii, a trailer for the next movie was shown that will be releasing in Summer 2016. Any guesses as to who the star is? I'll give you a hint, his name begins with a Z.

I'm calling it, XY2 is coming out in Fall 2016.

I'm still betting on June 2016 at the latest.
 
I'm still betting on June 2016 at the latest.

Usually the movie comes out ahead of the game they're trying to promote, that way people that see the movie will go out and buy the games that feature them. So I don't think it'll release in the first half of the year.
 
Or they can both promote each other by having the release dat in the same month as the movie comes out, like was done with BW2.

Wish they'd come out even ahead of the movie though, so that VGC isn't identical to this year lol, but the chances of that are unrealistic.
 
Or they can both promote each other by having the release dat in the same month as the movie comes out, like was done with BW2.

Wish they'd come out even ahead of the movie though, so that VGC isn't identical to this year lol, but the chances of that are unrealistic.

Fall is a much more ideal time of year to release the game, especially now that the games release worldwide and releasing the game in the Fall or Holiday season gets them more sales and attention because of Christmas. Even before worldwide releases though, nearly every Pokemon game released in Japan sometime in between September and December, the only exceptions being RG, FRLG, and BW2, so for whatever reason it's a good business decision for Japan as well. So it's a pretty safe bet that the next game will also be releasing in that time, especially if it's a Kalos related game that probably will have nothing to do with the 20th anniversary.
 
Fall is a much more ideal time of year to release the game, especially now that the games release worldwide and releasing the game in the Fall or Holiday season gets them more sales and attention because of Christmas. Even before worldwide releases though, nearly every Pokemon game released in Japan sometime in between September and December, the only exceptions being RG, FRLG, and BW2, so for whatever reason it's a good business decision for Japan as well. So it's a pretty safe bet that the next game will also be releasing in that time,

fair enough

and yeah, BW2 was likely due to it being way late in the DS-era already anyway.

especially if it's a Kalos related game that probably will have nothing to do with the 20th anniversary.

it's a main pokemon game, sure it could have something to do with the anniversary.
 
Well, I think I might be wrong. With that new silhouetted Pokemon I think they're gearing up for an announcement soon (maybe August/Septemberish and then a February 2016 release date).
 
Well, I think I might be wrong. With that new silhouetted Pokemon I think they're gearing up for an announcement soon (maybe August/Septemberish and then a February 2016 release date).
That would mess up their marketing for super mystery dungeon in Europe. My bet is on april-may
 
That would mess up their marketing for super mystery dungeon in Europe. My bet is on april-may

They wouldn't start promoting the next game this early if it were releasing in April or May, if that were the case it would be way too early to start teasing a new Zygarde form. An April/May release would mean the game would be announced around October-December.
 
They wouldn't start promoting the next game this early if it were releasing in April or May, if that were the case it would be way too early to start teasing a new Zygarde form. An April/May release would mean the game would be announced around October-December.
The game has yet to be announced.
 
I'm expecting the game announcement to occur at earliest at the world championship mid-august, and at the latest a few weeks before the Mega evolution special part 4 (which has got to showcase something new, and if it's new Megas, they don't make sense without us looking forward to upcoming games for them to appear in).
 
I'm expecting the game announcement to occur at earliest at the world championship mid-august, and at the latest a few weeks before the Mega evolution special part 4 (which has got to showcase something new, and if it's new Megas, they don't make sense without us looking forward to upcoming games for them to appear in).

The World Championships are actually at the end of August, not in mid-August, August 21-23 to be exact. CoroCoro is before then, so I could see an announcement then. The World Championships will probably just show off a new Mega like they have since 6th gen started.
 
I don't think I've shared this here, but I have a theory about what's going to happen with Volcanion in the next game that also explains the locked doors in the Power Plant. I've noticed a pattern with the last event Pokemon of a generation, ever since 3rd gen the last event Pokemon has had multiple forms, Deoxys has different stat based forms (Normal, Attack, Defense, and Speed), Arceus changes type based on plates, and Genesect have different drives that changes his signature move's type. So if the pattern holds this generation, then that means Volcanion will have multiple forms added to the next game. As for what forms, I came up with an idea that could expand on Volcanion's concept: different forms based on different sources of energy (such as solar energy, wind energy, etc.). Inicidentally, there is another mystery in the games relating to this concept of different energy sources: the locked doors in the Power Plant on Rt. 13. Each of them relates to a different source of energy, the one we fought Team Flare in was electrical themed, there were others that related to steam, solar power, geothermal power, and wind. I have a funny feeling that the two are related and the locked doors contain the means to change Volcanion's form. So I think Volcanion will have the following forms in the next game:

Steam Form (a.k.a. the one we know about already)- Fire/Water (East building)
Electrical Form- Fire/Electric (NW building)
Solar Form- Fire/Grass (SW building)
Wind Form- Fire/Flying (SE building)
Geothermal Form- Fire/Ground (NE building)
 
Since they are starting to promote Pokemon Z/X2 Y2 . I believe the Z version will release at 27 February 2016 to celebrate their 20 th aniversary . :D
After that i think the 7th generation will release at the end of 2017 (around october 2017 , september 2017 ) .

I'm on the hype train for 7th generation guy . But for Z version I will buy it for sure but not hype as much as 7th generation .
 
Since they are starting to promote Pokemon Z/X2 Y2 . I believe the Z version will release at 27 February 2016 to celebrate their 20 th aniversary . :D
After that i think the 7th generation will release at the end of 2017 (around october 2017 , september 2017 ) .

I'm on the hype train for 7th generation guy . But for Z version I will buy it for sure but not hype as much as 7th generation .

What if they add it together? Imagine exploring a new part of Kalos only to discover that it's just a fraction (1/3 or 1/4) and that the rest is 7th generation. :D
 
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