Standard Thoughts on Exegutor GX Deck

[Dark Espeon]

Lord of the Jungle turns all [G] into [G][G]. This means that Alolan Exeggutor GX can use all three attacks with no more than two [G] energy cards attached to him. Venusaur's Ability does not stake. This means that no more than one of them will be needed on the battlefield. The main issue is that a deck containing both Alolan Exeggutor GX and Venusaur could be rather clunky.

The phrase "defending Pokémon" in the translation of Ravaged Plains is a common phrase in Japan meaning the opponent's active Pokémon. Although it does not increase bench damage it is still a decent card.

 

[AuraJackle]

Lord of the Jungle turns all [G] into [G][G]. This means that Alolan Exeggutor GX can use all three attacks with no more than two [G] energy cards attached to him. Venusaur's Ability does not stake. This means that no more than one of them will be needed on the battlefield. The main issue is that a deck containing both Alolan Exeggutor GX and Venusaur could be rather clunky.

The phrase "defending Pokémon" in the translation of Ravaged Plains is a common phrase in Japan meaning the opponent's active Pokémon. Although it does not increase bench damage it is still a decent card.

Thank you dark espeon

 

[gumball51321]

Each as in each physical energy card attached as the ability sais I've yet to see actual proof of this ruling in your favor. What yall fail to understand is that the ability saying no 2 of the same ability can be working at once means that 2 venasaur in play doesn't raise the amount of energy more then just one in play. The ability alone takes care of what I've been saying from the beginning that 1 equals 2 and that 3 energy's equals 6. If it only applied to one energy at once then having multiple in play would stack because getting out multiple stage 2's would be hard enough for it to not be broken

It never says physical energy. Each Energy means each Energy. I literally gave proof in what I said. And saying "If it only applied to one energy at once then having multiple in play would stack because getting out multiple stage 2's would be hard enough for it to not be broken" isn't a viable argument because that's not the case. The reason me bringing
"If that were the case, then the card would be overpowered, which they prevented by adding "You can’t use more than 1 Lord of the Jungle Ability each turn" is a viable argument is because that is the case we're dealing with and is written on the card. When it says "You can’t use more than 1 Lord of the Jungle Ability each turn", then more than 1 Energy being attached and counting as 2 would be using the Ability multiple times because we're dealing with multiple Energy. I PM'd the magical @Otaku on the topic, so if for some reason I am wrong(Which I'm 100% sure I'm not), he can shed some light. I also see no proof in your claim, so really shouldn't say stuff like that, since it's pretty hypocritical when you don't have support for your answer. My support is that it's the exact same card as Gardevoir from NXD, but Grass type. And when you say "and by my research into gardevoir that the effect doubles all existing energy cards on the Pokemon", where did you get your research from? If you claim that you did research, you should site your sources, so people who you're arguing with can be proved wrong. Otherwise, it makes people question your argument.

 

[AuraJackle]

It never says physical energy. Each Energy means each Energy. I literally gave proof in what I said. And saying "If it only applied to one energy at once then having multiple in play would stack because getting out multiple stage 2's would be hard enough for it to not be broken" isn't a viable argument because that's not the case. The reason me bringing
"If that were the case, then the card would be overpowered, which they prevented by adding "You can’t use more than 1 Lord of the Jungle Ability each turn" is a viable argument is because that is the case we're dealing with and is written on the card. When it says "You can’t use more than 1 Lord of the Jungle Ability each turn", then more than 1 Energy being attached and counting as 2 would be using the Ability multiple times because we're dealing with multiple Energy. I PM'd the magical @Otaku on the topic, so if for some reason I am wrong(Which I'm 100% sure I'm not), he can shed some light. I also see no proof in your claim, so really shouldn't say stuff like that, since it's pretty hypocritical when you don't have support for your answer. My support is that it's the exact same card as Gardevoir from NXD, but Grass type. And when you say "and by my research into gardevoir that the effect doubles all existing energy cards on the Pokemon", where did you get your research from? If you claim that you did research, you should site your sources, so people who you're arguing with can be proved wrong. Otherwise, it makes people question your argument.

Litteraly by looking up the ruling of the card actually having eyes to read the card correctly. Also im friends with 3 judges and I myself am a judge and all say that I'm correct so you are the one who is misinterpreting the cards effect as well as it's Claus on "not having 2 lord of the jungle abilities in play at once" just give up.

 

[ImmortalDarkrai]

It also means that multiple Grass Energy wouldn't have the same rule. Once you have the 1=2, every energy after that just adds 1 Energy, rather than 2.

That's incorrect. The wording of the card specifically says "Each" grass energy counts as two. So if you have one it'll be two, two it'll be four, etc. What is meant by the "You can’t use more than 1 Lord of the Jungle Ability each turn." is that if you have two Venusaur on the field, the effect won't stack to make 1 = 3.

 

[mt2013]

@gumball51321 Gardevoir from NXD does indeed stack energy. Meaning if you have 2 energy on a Pokemon, with the ability active, it counts as 4. The text of the card states "You can't apply more than one psychic mirage ability at a time". Meaning, you can't have two Gardevoir out and now that 2 energy counts as 8.

 

[mt2013]

Also you can make a quick google search for Gardevoir Next Destinies ruling and find people who've asked about how energy is supposed to be counted, all not supporting your claim.

 

[Otaku]

It also means that multiple Grass Energy wouldn't have the same rule. Once you have the 1=2, every energy after that just adds 1 Energy, rather than 2.

Disclaimer: We don't have the English text for the card in question and every now and then, Pokémon decides to overturn an old ruling, but here is how it would most likely work:

The "Psychic Mirage" Ability of Gardevoir (BW: Next Destinies 57/99; BW: Dark Explorers 109/108) reads as follows:

Each basic [P] Energy attached to your [P] Pokémon provides [P][P] Energy. You can’t apply more than 1 Psychic Mirage Ability at a time.
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While sometimes the English language version of the card doesn't work how an English speaker would think it would work due to a questionable (even though it is official) translation, in this case, it agrees with how the card has been ruled to function and how it works on the PTCGO. Let us break it down:

"Each basic [P] Energy attached to your [P] Pokémon..." means this Ability does not affect Special Energy cards, or any [P] Energy attached to non-Psychic Pokémon. It does mean that any and all Psychic Energy cards, the source of basic [P] Energy, are affected when attached to Psychic-Type Pokémon.

"...provides [PP] Energy." means that instead of the usual [P] provided by Psychic Energy, it provides [PP]. It doesn't care whether there is one Psychic Energy attached to one of your Psychic-Type Pokémon, 10 of them attached to one of your Psychic-Type Pokémon, or 10 of them spread out among six of your Psychic-Type Pokémon; each Psychic Energy now provides [PP].

"You can’t apply more than 1 Psychic Mirage Ability at a time." means a second instance of this Ability will not replace the individual [P] of each [PP] providing Psychic Energy with yet another [PP]. With the way it is worded, I am not sure if it is even needed but that is a discussion for another time.

So @gumball51321, thank you for asking for my help, but your understanding of how "Psychic Mirage" works is incorrect... or else I am really misreading what you have typed. Which has happened before. >.>

 

[gumball51321]

Okay, I have been proven wrong. I was going by the literal wording on the card and it seems that my experience with Gardevoir has been wrongly ruled this whole time. I apologize for my ignorance.

 

[Otaku]

Okay, I have been proven wrong. I was going by the literal wording on the card and it seems that my experience with Gardevoir has been wrongly ruled this whole time. I apologize for my ignorance.

It happens. At least you didn't try to apply real world physics or logic from your favorite tabletop RPG in trying to figure out how it was supposed to work. >.>