'Tidal Storm' and 'Gaia Volcano' Japan's Next Sets! [9/22]
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My god that packaging artwork...
I might buy some boxes just keep for display. I hope most of the cards are hand drawn. Still waiting for my mega Gardevoir, Mawile, Houndoom and fabled Suicune EX...
I might buy some boxes just keep for display. I hope most of the cards are hand drawn. Still waiting for my mega Gardevoir, Mawile, Houndoom and fabled Suicune EX...
We will never get Suicune EX...actually I don't know that and kind of hope that's wrong. We probably won't get it recently though as I suspect the next set or two at least will have heavy focus on gen III.
I hope this is the set that gives us M. Gardevoir, M. Gardevoir EX and the fairy Gardevoir line though. At least the latter line.
I hope this is the set that gives us M. Gardevoir, M. Gardevoir EX and the fairy Gardevoir line though. At least the latter line.
I wonder if we'll see full art all sapphire and ruby cards of Kyorgre and Groudon like silver Dialga and the the gold cards from Legendary Treasures.
Frost said:
I listed it lower on the list, while it wasn't changed to B/W2 Boundaries Crossed was the kick off set for it. Honestly that one wasn't as big of an issue because all four games were essentially the same with a few changes made in BW2. I think the changes between XY and ORAS are significant enough to create a new block of sets.
Milennin said:
While I'm not positive...
I think it's because set changes are usually where we see mechanical and/or UR/SR changes. The Mega mechanic was introduced in XY (obviously), but removed the Shiny SRs that had been in BW. EXes started in BW (though not right away) and also the concept of FA cards. Legend era (HGSS) had Primes and Legends, Arceus had Arceus. DP had Lx. X, and DPt kept Lv. X and also reintroduced owners Pokémon (ex. Galactic, Champion) that hadn't been seen in a while. Etc. and so forth. Holo-style changes between eras have also been common.
So, a new set beginning would likely have meant a change of some sort. Perhaps different SRs/URs, or whatever. Instead, keeping it within the XY block means that we'll likely maintain the same EX, Mega, FA, gold-bordered SR, etc. pattern that's existed in XY, along with the same holo pattern.
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ShadowMoses05 said:
Platinum kept ideas from Diamond/Pearl, like Lvl. X Pokemon, and added new ideas like SP Pokemon. Black2/White2 kept ideas from Black/White, like Pokemon-EX, shiny Secret Rares, and Abilities rather than PokePowers and PokeBody's, and added new ideas like ACE SPECS and Team Plasma. Each set and the additional version sets were all so similar that they're often combined.
Who else thinks that we are nearly guaranteed a "Maxie" supporter and a "Archie" supporter?
Also, I think we can expect a Blue Orb and Red Orb card. These cards go along with my theory on the primal reversion of Kyogre and Groudon. I believe the orbs to be the mega stones. That's why in R/S/E, when the Team Magma/Team Aqua leader used the wrong orb, the legendary Pokemon got enraged and fled, but the hero has the right one and it battles him. Just a hunch I guess....
Also, I think we can expect a Blue Orb and Red Orb card. These cards go along with my theory on the primal reversion of Kyogre and Groudon. I believe the orbs to be the mega stones. That's why in R/S/E, when the Team Magma/Team Aqua leader used the wrong orb, the legendary Pokemon got enraged and fled, but the hero has the right one and it battles him. Just a hunch I guess....
Like, you guys still had doubts the ORAS set would be released under the XY block? LOL...
Athena said:
You hit the nail on the head on why I think it's a mistake that they keep this going as an XY set. It's more then likely that we wont see a change to secret rares now because they'll carry on the lame ones from XY (I hope they prove me wrong about this one though). I was hoping with an ORAS set they would move onto making the SR M into the shiny versions of pokemon or even making FA M pokemon. Not to mention that this is basically calling the set XY: ORAS, aside from mega evolutions they have nothing else in common in terms of story, characters, or locations.
The biggest changes I was hoping to see if a true ORAS set was made would be, change to SRs, possible addition of FA M cards, and most importantly an addition of Team Magma/Team Aqua cards. Magma/Aqua cards would have mechanics similar to Plasma where certain trainer cards would interact with them specifically (see EX team magma vs team aqua).
We only know what TCP did with the ORAS sets, but we still don't know what TPCi will do.
Let us go back to generation 3.
In Japan, that generation was split into the ADV and PCG series. PCG started with the Japanese equivalent of ex Firered Leafgreen. In the international market, Generation 3 was the EX series.
In Generation 4, Japan and the international market pretty much mimics each other. Their DP series is our DP series. Their Dpt series is our Platinum series. Their LEGEND series is our HGSS series. Another thing to mention with the first seven sets in the international generation 4 sets is how prominant the Diamond and Pearl logo in the 7 sets are. In the first 4 sets, Diamond and Pearl is the most prominent, with the likes of Mysterious Treasures, Secret Wonders, and Great Encounters having a smaller logo. Diamond and Pearl logo looks smaller in the next 3 sets, with the Majestic Dawn, Legends Awakened, and Stormfront logos looking way larger.
In Generation 5, Japan only has the BW series, and so does the international market, but at one point, they rebranded their packaging logos. Japan rebranded their BW logo with a set that is equivalent to our Next Destines expansion, and the international market rebranded their Black and White logo to show some blue and red crystalization to represent Black 2 and White 2 starting with Boundaries Crossed. The logo resizing happens again in this generation. Black and White logo is larger in the first 3 sets, with Emerging Powers and Noble Victories having a smaller logo. Starting in Next Destines, the logo for Black and White is much smaller, while Next Destinies, Dark Explorers, Dragons Exalted, Boundaries Crossed, Plasma Storm, Plasma Freeze, Plasma Blast, and Legendary Treasures have larger logos relative to the Black and White logo.
With the XY series, we do not have any info as to what the international equivalent to XY Tidal Storm and Gaia Volcano will be called. It could be called XY Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire, and subsequent sets may be called XY ORAS <place name here> ,where the O is the Greek letter Omega and the A is the Greek letter Alpha, kind of like in Heartgold Soulsilver, where the first set is called Heartgold Soulsilver, and the second set is called HS Unleashed. What we might see is the XY logo becomes smaller, because with XY, Flashfire, Furious FIsts, and Phantom Forces, the XY logo is the largest. So the XY logo might become smaller, then add the ORAS in there, kind of like Plasma in the plasma set, then add whatever name that comes after, so it would say XY ORAS something, where the XY logo is the smallest, the ORAS logo is largest, and the name of the set would be medium sized.
You can be sure that the February 2015 set will have some sort of logo change, no matter what it may be.
Let us go back to generation 3.
In Japan, that generation was split into the ADV and PCG series. PCG started with the Japanese equivalent of ex Firered Leafgreen. In the international market, Generation 3 was the EX series.
In Generation 4, Japan and the international market pretty much mimics each other. Their DP series is our DP series. Their Dpt series is our Platinum series. Their LEGEND series is our HGSS series. Another thing to mention with the first seven sets in the international generation 4 sets is how prominant the Diamond and Pearl logo in the 7 sets are. In the first 4 sets, Diamond and Pearl is the most prominent, with the likes of Mysterious Treasures, Secret Wonders, and Great Encounters having a smaller logo. Diamond and Pearl logo looks smaller in the next 3 sets, with the Majestic Dawn, Legends Awakened, and Stormfront logos looking way larger.
In Generation 5, Japan only has the BW series, and so does the international market, but at one point, they rebranded their packaging logos. Japan rebranded their BW logo with a set that is equivalent to our Next Destines expansion, and the international market rebranded their Black and White logo to show some blue and red crystalization to represent Black 2 and White 2 starting with Boundaries Crossed. The logo resizing happens again in this generation. Black and White logo is larger in the first 3 sets, with Emerging Powers and Noble Victories having a smaller logo. Starting in Next Destines, the logo for Black and White is much smaller, while Next Destinies, Dark Explorers, Dragons Exalted, Boundaries Crossed, Plasma Storm, Plasma Freeze, Plasma Blast, and Legendary Treasures have larger logos relative to the Black and White logo.
With the XY series, we do not have any info as to what the international equivalent to XY Tidal Storm and Gaia Volcano will be called. It could be called XY Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire, and subsequent sets may be called XY ORAS <place name here> ,where the O is the Greek letter Omega and the A is the Greek letter Alpha, kind of like in Heartgold Soulsilver, where the first set is called Heartgold Soulsilver, and the second set is called HS Unleashed. What we might see is the XY logo becomes smaller, because with XY, Flashfire, Furious FIsts, and Phantom Forces, the XY logo is the largest. So the XY logo might become smaller, then add the ORAS in there, kind of like Plasma in the plasma set, then add whatever name that comes after, so it would say XY ORAS something, where the XY logo is the smallest, the ORAS logo is largest, and the name of the set would be medium sized.
You can be sure that the February 2015 set will have some sort of logo change, no matter what it may be.
Anyone think they might have the Mega starters in here? They skipped Blaziken in the Wild Blaze and Rising Fist, so maybe they'll have them in here? Mega Swampert would be good in Tidal Storm, and Blaziken in Gaia Volcano. I dunno where Sceptile would fit, but maybe he'll be a random mega in one set, and there will be one more in the other? Like Mega Gallade (because they just released the Gallade EX as a promo?)
Just my thoughts aha xP
Anyone else think this, or not really?
Just my thoughts aha xP
Anyone else think this, or not really?
I think it's pretty likely, assuming that Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon don't take the place of megas.
The one reason I don't think they will is that unless we hear something different there are only two primals in the entire Pokemon lineup. So we'll see two primals and four megas.
The one reason I don't think they will is that unless we hear something different there are only two primals in the entire Pokemon lineup. So we'll see two primals and four megas.
GadgetJax said:
There's literally a picture of a Gallade EX card on the front page right now.
I could see Mega Swampert and Mega Sceptile, as well as Swampert and Sceptile Ex's in the first set, then Blaziken in a later set.
Also we'll probably see ex's for other gen 3 pokemon like Gardevoir, Absol, Tropius, Breloom, Mawile and Sableye.
I wouldn't be surprised to see some ex's for gen 1 pokemon also. Maybe Gyarados or Raichu.
Also we'll probably see ex's for other gen 3 pokemon like Gardevoir, Absol, Tropius, Breloom, Mawile and Sableye.
I wouldn't be surprised to see some ex's for gen 1 pokemon also. Maybe Gyarados or Raichu.
We need a Gyarados EX, because there is a Mega Gyarados. To date every Pokemon that mega evolves has an EX card and I see no reason for that trend to stop. For similar reasons Gardevoir, Mawile and Sableye will have EX versions too. There is also an image of Absol EX on the front page of Pokebeach along with M. Absol EX.
I agree we'll probably see a Raichu EX too. What I want to know is if the primal pokemon will be an additional set of cards in the set or fill the place of a mega pokemon in this set.
So, when we get this set in the US, who wants to bet we'll either have three theme decks (to match three starters) or two starter decks that will combine two of the starter types, like maybe water and fire? They could even turn around and make it part fighting with Swampert and Blaziken evolving into fighting types.
I agree we'll probably see a Raichu EX too. What I want to know is if the primal pokemon will be an additional set of cards in the set or fill the place of a mega pokemon in this set.
So, when we get this set in the US, who wants to bet we'll either have three theme decks (to match three starters) or two starter decks that will combine two of the starter types, like maybe water and fire? They could even turn around and make it part fighting with Swampert and Blaziken evolving into fighting types.