Standard Trevenant BREAK / Gengar EX

[gregpokeman]

Pokemon 16

• 3 Gengar EX
• 4 Phantoms BPT
• 3 Trevenant XY base
• 1 Trevenant BPT
• 2 Trevenant BREAK
• 1 Shaymin EX

Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums 36[/COLOR]

• 3 Professor Sycamore
• 4 VS Seeker
• 1 Professor Birch's Observations
• 4 Float Stone
• 3 Wally
• 1 Lysandre
• 3 Dimension Valley
• 2 Super Rod
• 4 Ultra Ball
• 1 Giovanni's Scheme
• 3 Muscle Band
• 1 AZ
• 3 Trainers' Mail
• 1 red card
• 1 battle compressor
• 1 town map
• 1 startling megaphone

Energy 8

• 8 Psychic Energy

Strategy:

Hi guys I have recently built this deck and it has a pretty fast setup. It has the potential to beat many decks, so I would like to hear from you guys some improvements for this deck. The only thing I am scared of is not dealing enough damage so would it be possible to somehow put a line of gengar BKT as a clean up attacker.

 

[TheSceptileMaster]

Drop the Deddennes and add 2 Trevenant Break
Why, because you have enough draw power and are able to find Pokémon with Ultra Ball and consistency is important if you are running four regular Trevenant

 

[Greg]

Pokemon 16

• 3 Gengar EX
• 4 Phantoms BPT
• 3 Trevenant XY base
• 1 Trevenant BPT
• 1 Trevenant BREAK
• 2 Shaymin EX
• 2 Dedenne FF

Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums 36[/COLOR]

• 3 Professor Sycamore
• 4 VS Seeker
• 2 Robo Substitute
• 1 Professor Birch's Observations
• 4 Float Stone
• 3 Wally
• 1 Lysandre
• 4 Dimension Valley
• 2 Super Rod
• 4 Ultra Ball
• 1 Giovanni's Scheme
• 3 Muscle Band
• 1 AZ
• 3 Trainers' Mail

Energy 8

• 8 Psychic Energy

Strategy:

Hi guys I have recently built this deck and it has a pretty fast setup. It has the potential to beat many decks, so I would like to hear from you guys some improvements for this deck. The only thing I am scared of is not dealing enough damage so would it be possible to somehow put a line of gengar BKT as a clean up attacker.

hi Greg! lol.
Its nice to see other people working with trevenant.

I like the idea of this deck. I have a few possible swaps i'll list.

-1 trevenant bpt/+1 Trevenant Break (2 for safety)
-3 wally/+?? pokemon fan club
-2 dedenne
-1 Dimensional Valley

I think a great idea for this deck would be to Add in Dragalge (FF71)
Since you are going to swap out gengar for trevenant, Dragalge would work really really well since he makes it where poisoned pokemon cant retreat. With trevenant, they can't use switch, sparkling robe, or put a tool on garbordor (add Startling megaphone!) either. their only options would be zoroark, az, pokemon center lady, or Hex maniac. Zoroark being the only real solution. They either have to waste their supporter, energy, both, or sit and let the poison tick away their hp. Red card would Make the combo even better, severely limiting their options.
You could invest in escape ropes (great if you don't have a float, or they use megaphone), and more lysandre, so basically the opponent is stuck and unable to do anything.
Hit with gengar to poison, swap to Trevenant break, and keep hitting with either tree slam (60 active 20 to 2 bench) or silent fear (3 damage counter on each pokemon)

Phantumps attack evolves himself on first turn, wally is not useful here. I think pokemon fan club and evosodas would be much more useful.

Mystery energy might come in handy, since gengar has a 2 star retreat. Would definitely try them out.

You might also invest in double colorless energies, in case you don't have the option of using Dimensional valley.

 

[dkatz2003]

hi Greg! lol.
Its nice to see other people working with trevenant.

I like the idea of this deck. I have a few possible swaps i'll list.

-1 trevenant bpt/+1 Trevenant Break (2 for safety)
-3 wally/+?? pokemon fan club
-2 dedenne
-1 Dimensional Valley

I think a great idea for this deck would be to Add in Dragalge (FF71)
Since you are going to swap out gengar for trevenant, Dragalge would work really really well since he makes it where poisoned pokemon cant retreat. With trevenant, they can't use switch, sparkling robe, or put a tool on garbordor (add Startling megaphone!) either. their only options would be zoroark, az, pokemon center lady, or Hex maniac. Zoroark being the only real solution. They either have to waste their supporter, energy, both, or sit and let the poison tick away their hp. Red card would Make the combo even better, severely limiting their options.
You could invest in escape ropes (great if you don't have a float, or they use megaphone), and more lysandre, so basically the opponent is stuck and unable to do anything.
Hit with gengar to poison, swap to Trevenant break, and keep hitting with either tree slam (60 active 20 to 2 bench) or silent fear (3 damage counter on each pokemon)

Phantumps attack evolves himself on first turn, wally is not useful here. I think pokemon fan club and evosodas would be much more useful.

Mystery energy might come in handy, since gengar has a 2 star retreat. Would definitely try them out.

You might also invest in double colorless energies, in case you don't have the option of using Dimensional valley.

I'm looking at the phantump and it never says that you can use it on your first turn. Also he needs the dedenes to counter yvital

 

[Greg]

I'm looking at the phantump and it never says that you can use it on your first turn. Also he needs the dedenes to counter yvital

? you choose to go second, and his attack evolves him

Your first turn, not the person who go's first.

How does a dedenne counter yveltal? you throw out the dedenne, hit for 40, then get 1 shotted? Your also wasting energy placement. Dedenne only hurts this deck.

 

[gregpokeman]

? you choose to go second, and his attack evolves him

Your first turn, not the person who go's first.

How does a dedenne counter yveltal? you throw out the dedenne, hit for 40, then get 1 shotted? Your also wasting energy placement. Dedenne only hurts this deck.

I get taking out the dedene, but if you choose to go second your opponent can play items galore and then the effect will not be as usefull

 

[Greg]

I get taking out the dedene, but if you choose to go second your opponent can play items galore and then the effect will not be as usefull

this is true, there are downsides to going second, but at the same time they empty out their hands, and usually give you a shaymin to lysandre.
Or use a supporter to fill up the rest of the bench. Trevenant is low hp, and theres a lot out there that can one shot it first turn especially night march, manetric and entei decks. Realistically thats like half of every deck you play against right now.

 

[gregpokeman]

this is true, there are downsides to going second, but at the same time they empty out their hands, and usually give you a shaymin to lysandre.
Or use a supporter to fill up the rest of the bench. Trevenant is low hp, and theres a lot out there that can one shot it first turn especially night march, manetric and entei decks. Realistically thats like half of every deck you play against right now.

Magnetic can't one hit knock out a trevenant on its first turn so can't entei without battle compressor and night March also needs battle compressor

 

[Greg]

Magnetic can't one hit knock out a trevenant on its first turn so can't entei without battle compressor and night March also needs battle compressor

no but they can knock out phantump. Theres just no gurantee you will get wally on your first turn, only 4/53 chance if he isnt in the prize cards. With trevenant its better to let them fill up the bench to, since he has a multi hit and it allows you to pull shaymins and hammer energies etc.

 

[gregpokeman]

Then should I run one more wally and before anybody says that its wasted space it's not because you can super rod walley for a break or that key tree