Triumphant Top20

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I took from Triumphant what I think would be the Top20 playable cards. What I wanna know, is where you guys think each card ranks in playability from 1-20. I'll give my list below.

20. Magmortor
19. Porygon Z
18. Nidoking
17. Grumpig
16. Electrivire
15. Bannet
14. Wailord
13. Ditto
12. Nidoqueen
11. Solrock
10. Blackbelt
9. Pidgeot
8. Junk Arm
7. Gengar Prime
6. Rescue Energy
5. Machamp Prime
4. Absol Prime
3. Mew Prime
2. Twins
1. Seeker
 
This thread has the makings of a favorite thread. If you post you, please have reasons to back up your beliefs or this thread will be locked.
 
i dont think its a favorites thread. this thread can provide good info on cards

top 20 might be a bit much, so my top 10 are:

twins - any two card find can change the game around
blackbelt - 40 more damage can easily help turn the tides around
seeker - has way too many uses and benefits. most likely has a place in every deck
magnezone prime - new draw power. a bit slow, but useable
electrode prime - good energy setup'er. lets your opponent take a prize card so u can also use twins and blackbelt
mew prime - can use the attack of any pokemon on turn2 is amazing. fast deck and great techs
celebi prime - interesting tech. can be quite annoying with umbreon UD
wailord - awesome tank with expert belt as well as attacker. good aggro and tank in raindance decks
golduck - again. very powerful and able to heal. amazing in raindance deck
victreebel - burn and poison. heal. increase opponents retreat. all in one attack. amazing and annoying to play against
 
I think Yanmega Prime has a good chance to be a really good deck.110 hp is pretty good for a stage 1,being able to attack for free and has free retreat.My biggest problem with the Yanmega Prime is the weakness to lighting,really cripples this cards chances of getting used a lot.
Add Shaymin lv.x(ground from) to add extra hp and you have a tank.
 
Electivire is definitely playable, maybe should be a bit higher on that list? The combo potential with Tentacruel LA is solid. Celebi prime can also set up quickly (turn 2) and help grass decks get set up faster if you can wall the opponent for a couple turns.

In all honesty, I think all the primes (with the exception of Electrode) should be in the top 20. This set provides the most playable primes of any set.
 
Kinda surprised Absol is so high, i think it's should be lower than Gengar because Gengar can still create havoc while Absol in most cases won't last a turn(80 HP = slaughter, if it's benched it's susceptible to sniping and when active is just asking to be OHKO'd) Gengar may have lost "lost world" but should still see more play and be better than Absol
 
Gengar is currently nearly worthless though... I mean sure you could spend 3-4 turns getting a few kills in a spread deck with compound pain as long as you played cresslia & darkrai legend to abuse Moon's Invite, but nevertheless Gengar is a Stage 2 while Absol Prime is a basic that can effectively counter Gengar's or put pokemon into the Lost Zone for Mew Prime. I guess you could attempt a lock deck by wasting turns attempting to send opponents pokemon to the lost zone, but without lost world I don't see the point.

Also, I would probably put Spiritomb up in my top 20 (though probably not top 10) as a tech card for my Vilegar deck as it will make your opponent draw 6 cards giving you a much better chance at a KO with Poltergeist.
 
Black Belt is in top ten for sure. 40 extra damage for being behind...OMG. That can break or make lategame especially with 30+3 in play.
 
blackbelt and twins should both be in the list. they are clash at the summits "game changing cards"
 
10. Blackbelt - This card could be a real game changer. Probably more for slower decks or decks that abuse type disadvantages. (example: a pokemon doing 10 damage, but has expert belt and blackbelt will do 140 to pokemon with weakness)

9. Pidgeot - How cool is Headwind? I mean this attack is great by itself, but also a great finisher. I hope someone comes up with a great strategy for this.

8. Junk Arm - This card can be used in pretty much any deck. I hope it doesnt get ruined with all the trainer lock going on though.

7. Gengar Prime - Would be Top3 if we would have gotten lost world. Its still a great card and can still be used in gengar varients to either cause disruption or help with the spread damage.

6. Rescue Energy - This is a very interesting card. I still have no idea how to use it effectively or have any ideas for a combo, but all I know is that this will be used and will be used a lot.

5. Machamp Prime - This was a tough one. He could have easily been higher or lower on the list. Machamp couldnt hold a decent position in the tiers because he really had no solid attack output. This changes that and we can only wait and see whether its enough.

4. Absol Prime - It was hard to put this card ahead of cards like genger and machamp. The only real reason that its this high up is I got a taste of how good this card is during pre-release. In all honesty this might be the most powerful basic pokemon ever released.

3. Mew Prime - Its not the top pokemon from triumphant becuase he is the most powerful, but he definately gets bonus points for just being a fun card altogether. I have so many ideas for this card and im sure there are creative minds out there that will probably end up getting this card banned. lol

2. Twins - Okay I've posted this list on other sites too and i've gotten a lot of negative feedback because in other peoples eyes, twins is the best card hands down from triumphant. Well I dont have twins as #2 because it sucks. I think it has the best effect of any card in triumphant and the format for that matter. The reason I have this card at #2 is because this list is also about how playable a card is...Im sure it will be in 95% of decks, however if your never behind in prizesyou will never use this card.

1. Seeker - Okay #1. To me, this card can be played in 100% of decks. This is a great way to abuse uxie, mesprit, or any other one time use powers. It can win you a game if your opponent only has 1 basic on his bench... and you thought donks were a problem now? its going to be crazy. T1 donk deck are going to love this card along with everyone else. I don't see why they insist on changing names of cards. Hunter sounded so much better, clash at the summit sounded so much better, but I guess I'll live. Anyway I have big plans for this card card and many others from the set.

I hope everyone can use these cards to make the game better and more diverse. Already I can see the meta changing for the better even with a weak set like Undaunted. This set will bring it all together with probably the most random meta we've had in a long time.
 
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