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Alt. Format Unlimited Shiftry Ftk

brandonmarks994

brandonmarks994

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so this is my shiftry ftk deck that i literally made in about 30 minutes, this deck has crushed most unlimited decks i went up against, and the only deck that it lost against was vileplume ex and he managed to get it out first turn cause forest of giant plants

so heres the deck

4x seedot (doesnt matter as long as its grass)
4x nuzleaf (doesnt matter as long as its grass)
4x shiftry (next destinies)
4x uxie (legends awakened) this thing is like shaymin ex on steroids, a must have in any unlimited deck
4x unown (ancient origins) very synergistic with uxie
4x sableye (stormfront) this lets you go first almost every game no matter who won the coin flip

4x professor oak (a must in unlimited)
4x bill (same)
4x professor oak's new research (the best draw supporter i could find)
EDIT-i forgot 4x puzzle of time
4x computer search (also a must in unlimited)
4x forest of giant plants

3x ultra ball
3x super scoop up (doesnt matter which one but my favorite is the one from ex delta species)

2x max revive (i need a way to get shiftry back and puzzle of time wasnt enough)
2x item finder

1x revitalizer (just a way to get back whatever we discard)
1x scoop up cyclone

if theres anything i can do to improve this deck let me know

also for some reason some of the card images wont load, its a common problem in lackeyccg

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Have you considered Great encounters Porygon with Devo spray BTS, Trump card and AZ for infinite recycling
 
the problem is that you dont want more than 1 supporter, cause 99% of the time you will win turn 1 unless they throw out 4-5 pokemon
 
bill and computer search have errata issued on them such that you may not wish to run them this errata applies even in unlimited.

bill is now a supporter and computer search is considered an ace spec.
 
treyh37 said:
bill and computer search have errata issued on them such that you may not wish to run them this errata applies even in unlimited.

bill is now a supporter and computer search is considered an ace spec.
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okay so add an ultra ball what would you have for the remaining 3 comp search? also is there a replacement for bill thats not a supporter? maybe trainers mail since the deck is all trainers mostly, level ball can get everything but shiftry, maybe maintenence from the base set, its like a worse bill
 
so heres the updated list, since i didnt know that bill was errated to a supporter, this deck lost a bit of consistency and i didnt know that the old comp search was considered the same card as the new one, this is the updated list, i added devolution spray cause for all intents and purposes its a better scoop up for this deck, it just cant scoop up uxie if you need to, but thats what we still have 1 super scoop up for (when i say +1 -1 +0 -2 and stuff like that, its a term we use in yugioh to describe card advantage)

1x scoop up cyclone
1x revitalizer
1x super scoop up

2x item finder
2x devolution spray
2x max revive (only to get shiftry back into the deck so we can search/draw it)

3x level ball (can search anything except shiftry)

4x trainer's mail (chose this over maintenance, while maintenance has interesting synergy with uxie, i'd rather have the pot of duality effect)
4x ultra ball (had to go up to 4 cause i didnt know computer search was considered the same as the ace spec one)
4x forest of giant plants
4x professor oak
4x professor oaks new theory (honestly this is probably the best draw supporter in the game besides juniper/sycamore but since we run oak, id rather not have too many discard your hand cards)
4x puzzle of time (best card to get stuff back, better than item finder cause this is a +0 that can get anything back if you can resolve 2 of them, item finder is a -2, revitalizer CAN be a +1 but can only get grass pokemon, and max revive is a -1 but it does recycle your shiftry)

4x uxie (legends awakened)
4x unown (ancient origins)
4x sableye (storm front)
4x seedot (doesnt matter as long as its grass)
4x nuzleaf (doesnt matter as long as its grass)
4x shiftry (next destinies)

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treyh37 said:
bill and computer search have errata issued on them such that you may not wish to run them this errata applies even in unlimited.

bill is now a supporter and computer search is considered an ace spec.
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Computer search never received an errata (hence why you can't run Base CPU search in Expanded)

EDIT: After doing research Base set CPU Search is banned
 
errata may be the wrong word you go by the latest printing, bill's latest printing made it a supporter while computer search is listed as such

"base set: Computer Search 71/102 {BCR} Major text change. Note: Can only be used in Unlimited, play as the Ace Spec."

the key part being the part at the end such that if you the base set version in unlimited play treat it as the ace spec version
 
treyh37 said:
errata may be the wrong word you go by the latest printing, bill's latest printing made it a supporter while computer search is listed as such

"base set: Computer Search 71/102 {BCR} Major text change. Note: Can only be used in Unlimited, play as the Ace Spec."

the key part being the part at the end such that if you the base set version in unlimited play treat it as the ace spec version
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Where did you find this? In my research I only found that it was completely banned, sort of like Pokemon Center
 
standard and expanded legal card list on pokegym, the quote is from the expanded one. it's a little out of date (missing Evolutions and Sun Moon) but still good.
 
We need an official unlimited format kinda like magic has modern which is the modern looking cards and legacy/vintage with all cards, (in legacy there are a lot of cards banned cause they're unfair and vintage no cards are banned but the unfair ones are at 1)
 
i just found out why the images werent loading correctly, the update link was changed so im updating now ill post a picture of the deck when its done
 
wait so if you use the newest versions of trainers, anything that wasnt considered an item before but is now, is that still affected by cards like seismitoad? say i have a super scoop up from delta species which is my favorite set, is it still considered an item?
 
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brandonmarks994 said:
wait so if you use the newest versions of trainers, anything that wasnt considered an item before but is now, is that still affected by cards like seismitoad? say i have a super scoop up from delta species which is my favorite set, is it still considered an item?
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I don't play unlimited, but as far as I know if a card isn't a supporter or a stadium then it is an item.
 
Darkness3827 said:
I don't play unlimited, but as far as I know if a card isn't a supporter or a stadium then it is an item.
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the thing is, once upon a time, items didnt exist, there was only supporters, regular trainers, and stadiums, what im asking is since we use the most recent printing of the card (i.e. computer search is now considered an ace spec even though in the base set it was a regular trainer) is something like super scoop up considered an item and prevented from being used if your opponent uses quaking punch?

ALSO if a card is considered a regular trainer and wasnt reprinted then by the reprinting rules, it is not considered an item cause it was never printed as an item
 
brandonmarks994 said:
the thing is, once upon a time, items didnt exist, there was only supporters, regular trainers, and stadiums, what im asking is since we use the most recent printing of the card (i.e. computer search is now considered an ace spec even though in the base set it was a regular trainer) is something like super scoop up considered an item and prevented from being used if your opponent uses quaking punch?

ALSO if a card is considered a regular trainer and wasnt reprinted then by the reprinting rules, it is not considered an item cause it was never printed as an item
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Every 'Trainer" card has been erratad to read "Trainer-Item" (I.e. they get shut off by quaking punch)
 
baboon159 said:
So that shiftry isn't banned in unlimited?
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Unlimited is well...Unlimited you can use every single card ever printed
However of course errata are still applied (i.e. Catcher's coin flip, Computer Search from Base is considered an Ace spec, HGSS "Trainers" are erratad to "Trainer-Item", Bill is a supporter, etc.)
 
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