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Trades & Sales [USA] Curious Cleffa's Bulk Trades! Updated with Guardians Rising!

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Toxapex GX FA - 700
Enhanced Hammer SR - 1900
Turtonator GX HR - 1500
Max Potion SR - 2200
Incineroar GX HR - 1700
Primarina GX HR - 1800
Metagross GX HR - 1500
Wishiwashi GX HR - 1100
Vikavolt GX HR - 1400
Total 13,800 points

All but the SR Enhanced Hammer are available! PM me to confirm! :)

Greetings,
Want your:
1 Vikavolt GX FA 600
1 Toxapex GX FA 700
1 Metagross GX FA 700

Have bulk points for you.
Forgive me for coming to you for my first attempted trade after being off this site for a few years.
Hi there! I do have those 3 available! PM me what bulk you have and we can get this trade going :)
 
I need:

1x Zoroark- 400
2x Vikavolt GX- 800
1x Tapu Koko GX- 800
1x Oranguru- 250
1x Vikavolt- 100

I have:

470 Common/Uncommon bulk

Would you do this trade?

Additionally, do you have any Charjabug, Tapu Koko Promo, or Klefki from Steam Siege? I would add extra bulk for these @Curious Cleffa I would appreciate a response ASAP as i need these cards very soon.
 
Updates!
All Guardians Rising URs are updated! (5/24)

Trading/Sales Rules!
  1. Mainly looking for bulk trades, meaning I'll take your bulk off your hands for EXs, FAs, or certain meta cards!
  2. Bulk Points are listed down below, equal up your bulk points with the points in blue by the card.
  3. All your bulk must be M-NM. If not, I will contact you and we will go from there. I will not be able to send back your bulk unless you want to pay for return shipping. Make sure to pack your bulk safely! Haven't had a problem with bulk being damaged in transit.
  4. If your bulk points are 1500 or more, you qualify for free tracking on the cards I send you! If it's under 1500 points and you want tracking, it'll be an extra 300 points for tracking.
  5. I'll be updating the available cards weekly, and I'll be online multiple times a day to check on trades!

Bulk Points
Commons/Uncommons - 5 points each
Reverses - 8 points each
Rares - 12 points each
***No energy or World Championship cards***
***Only English bulk***


Available Cards
SM: Guardians Rising
6 Turtonator GX 500
1 Alolan Ninetales GX 800
8 Wishiwashi GX 400
4 Vikavolt GX 400
3 Tapu Koko GX 800
8 Toxapex GX 400
2 Tapu Lele GX 4200
4 Lycanroc GX 500
6 Metagross GX 400
7 Kommo-o GX 4
00
4 Drampa GX 600
1 Turtonator GX FA 1000
2 Alolan Ninetales GX FA
1700
1 Vikavolt GX FA 600
2 Toxapex GX FA 700
1 Metagross GX FA 700

1 Hala FA 1000
1 Hau FA 800
1 Incineroar GX HR 1700
1 Turtonator GX HR 1500
1 Primarina GX HR 1800
1 Alolan Ninetales GX HR 2800
1 Wishiwashi GX HR 1100
1 Vikavolt GX HR 1400
1 Tapu Koko GX HR 2200
1 Tapu Lele GX HR 8500
1 Metagross GX HR 1500
1 Kommo-o GX HR 1500
1 Drampa GX HR 1700
1 Aqua Patch SR 3000
1 Enhanced Hammer SR 1900
1 Field Blower SR 3000
1 Max Potion SR 2200
1 Rare Candy SR 2500
1 Double Colorless Energy SR 8000
1 Grass Energy SR 2500
1 Lightning Energy SR 2200
1 Fighting Energy SR 2300


Sun and Moon
1 Decidueye GX 1500
7 Lurantis GX 900
6 Incineroar GX 1100
4 Lapras GX 600
9 Primarina GX 600
1 Espeon GX 500
5 Lunala GX 700
5 Umbreon GX 800
6 Solgaleo GX 1700
4 Tauros GX 650
3 Gumshoos GX 300
1 Lurantis GX FA 1100
1 Lapras GX FA 800

1 Tauros GX FA 900
2 Gumshoos GX FA 500
1 Ilima FA 500

3 Lillie FA 2000
1 Professor Kukui FA 1200
2 Team Skull Grunt FA 800
2 Lunala GX HR 2200

9 Shiinotic 100
8 Tsareena 100
10 Arcanine 100
6 Poliwrath 100
9 Vikavolt 100
8 Crobat 100
8 Alolan Muk 100
7 Toxapex 100
6 Gigalith 100
9 Sharpedo 100
9 Krookodile 100
8 Alolan Dugtrio 100
9 Ribombee 100
5 Dragonite 100
5 Kangaskhan 100
9 Oranguru 250
1 Oranguru Reverse 250

Evolutions
3 Venusaur EX 300
6 M Venusaur EX 600
2 Charizard EX 500
1 Blastoise EX 350

1 M Blastoise EX 700
6 Slowbro EX 300
1 M Slowbro EX 600
4 Mewtwo EX 450
5 Pidgeot EX 400
2 M Pidgeot EX 500
4 Dragonite EX 500
4 Ninetales Break 200
7 Starmie Break 150
7 Nidoking Break 200
6 Machamp Break 200
1 Pidgeot EX FA 600

1 M Pidgeot EX FA 800
1 Brock's Grit FA 750
11 Bilingual Exeggutor SR 100
15 Flying Pikachu SR 200
11 Surfing Pikachu SR 200
15 Imakuni?s Doduo SR 100
13 Here Comes Team Rocket SR 100
7 Charizard (11) 1500
5 Ninetales (15) 100
4 Gyarados (34) 100
8 Raichu (36) 200
3 Magneton (38) 100
4 Zapdos (42) 100
6 Nidoking (45) 100
5 Machamp (59) 100
3 Hitmonchan (62) 100
1 Clefairy (63) 100
5 Chansey (70) 100
1 Charizard Reverse (11) 700


Steam Siege

2 Volcanion EX 1300
2 Steelix EX 350
3 M Steelix EX 800
2 Magearna EX 300
2 Gardevoir EX 400
2 M Gardevoir EX 500
1 Pyroar BREAK 200
3 Clawitzer BREAK 150
4 Yveltal BREAK 300
1 Xerneas BREAK 800
2 Hydreigon BREAK 200
2 Gardevoir EX FA 700
4 Shiftry (11) 100
8 Infernape (20) 150
5 Ampharos (40) 100
10 Chandelure (50) 100
5 Bisharp (64) 100
5 Yveltal (65) 100
5 Klinklang (73) 100
7 Xerneas (81) 100
6 Hydreigon (86) 100
3 Volcanion Reverse (25) 300
11 Volcanion (25) 200
11 Talonflame (96) 400


Fates Collide

1 Glaceon EX 1000
4 M Alakazam EX 900
2 Regirock EX 500
1 Zygarde EX 700
2 Genesect EX 400
1 M Altaria EX 600
3 Diancie EX 400
1 Kingdra EX 350
5 Altaria EX 400
4 Delphox BREAK 300
2 Omastar BREAK 200
3 Carbink BREAK 500
1 Kingdra EX FA 400
8 Delphox (13) 100
7 White Kyurem (21) 100
7 Tyranitar (56) 100
8 Lucario (63) 100

BREAKpoint
1 Gyarados EX 500
1 M Gyarados EX 1500
2 M Scizor EX 900
1 Togekiss EX 350
1 Golduck BREAK 200
2 Raticate BREAK 200
1 Ho-Oh EX FA 700
1 Gyarados EX SR 800
1 Meganium (3) 100
2 Suicune (30) 100
1 Garbodor (57) 200
5 Aegislash (62) 100
1 Dragalge (86) 100
5 Greninja (40) 100


BREAKthrough

1 Houndoom EX 400
1 M Houndoom EX 700
3 Glalie EX 400
1 Mewtwo EX (62) 600
2 M Mewtwo EX (64) 1300
1 Noivern BREAK 200
1 Mewtwo SR (164) 1400
1 Vivillon (15) 100
1 Octillery (33) 300
2 Empoleon (38) 100
1 Raikou (55) 400
2 Mismagius (66) 100
1 Meleotta (85) 100
1 Mamoswine (82) 100
2 Zoroark (91) 400
2 Yveltal (94) 800


Ancient Origins

1 Ampharos EX 300
1 Tyranitar EX 400
1 Giratina EX 1000
1 Virizion (12) 100
1 Entei AT (15) 200
1 Volcarona (17) 150
2 Gyarados AT (21) 200
1 Goodra (60) 100
4 Porygon-Z AT (67) 100
2 Vileplume (3) 100
6 Ariados (6) 100
4 Regice (24) 100
7 Unown (30) 100

Roaring Skies
1 Gallade EX 300
1 M Gallade EX 500
1 M Latios EX 500
1 Rayquaza EX (75) 400
1 M Rayquaza EX (76)
1200
1 M Rayquaza EX FA (105) 1600
2 Beautifly (5) 100
2 Deoxys (33) 200
1 Absol (40) 150
4 Togekiss AT (46) 150
2 Zekrom (64) 100
2 Articuno AT (17) 100

Primal Clash
1 Wailord EX 900
1 Kyogre EX 600
1 Sharpedo EX 350
1 Aggron EX 350
1 M Gardevoir EX 600
1 Trevenant EX FA 1000
1 Enhanced Hammer SR 1800
1 Ludicolo (12) 100
1 Huntail (50) 100
1 Manaphy (56) 100
1 Hippowdon (88) 100
1 Kingdra AT (108) 200
1 Flygon (110) 150
6 Bunnelby AT (121) 100


Double Crisis

1 Team Aqua’s Kyogre EX 800
2 Team Magma Camerupt 200
1 Team Aqua's Walrein 100
2 Team Aqua’s Muk 100
1 Team Magma's Aggron 150
1 Team Aqua's Sharpedo 200

Phantom Forces
1 Gengar EX 800
1 Dialga EX 400
1 Head Ringer (97) 200

Furious Fists
1 Lucario EX 900
1 M Lucario EX 1800
1 Dragonite EX 400
1 Hawlucha EX 400


FlashFire

1 M Kangaskhan EX 800

XY

1 Skarmory EX 300
1 Xerneas EX 400
1 Greninja Reverse (41) 100
4 Raichu (43) 100
1 Xerneas (96) 100


Generations

1 Venusaur EX 400
1 M Venusaur EX 800
1 Leafeon EX 900
1 Charizard EX 500
1 Ninetales EX 400
1 Blastoise EX 400
1 M Blastoise EX 1200
1 Vaporeon EX 700
1 Meowstic EX 400
2 Golem EX 400
4 Flareon EX 300
4 Sylveon EX 300
2 Flareon EX FA 450
2 Pikachu FA 350
2 Gardevoir EX FA 400
1 M Gardevoir EX FA 500
3 Sylveon EX FA 400
1 Zapdos FA 800
4 Butterfree (5) 100
1 Raichu (27) 200
3 Gengar (35) 150
1 Machamp (42) 100
1 Golem (45) 100
5 Charizard (RC5) 200
2 Jirachi (RC13) 100

XY Promos
1 Xerneas EX XY07 600
1 Venusaur EX XY28 400
1 Blastoise EX XY30 400
1 Kyogre EX XY41 400
1 Groudon EX XY42 350
1 Sceptile EX XY53 400
1 Blaziken EX XY54 400
1 Swampert EX XY55 400
5 Hoopa EX XY71 800
1 Latios EX XY72 400
1 Rayquaza EX XY73 400
1 Hoopa XY90 250
1 Celebi XY93 500
1 Pikachu XY95 500

Trainers (Standard)

*Updating points, ask me about points for the trainers you're interested in if there's no points by it yet!*

Primal Clash
3 Acro Bike 200
1 Acro Bike Reverse 250
3 Aggron Spirit Link 50
1 Aggron Spirit Link Reverse 75
9 Archie's Ace in the Hole 50
1 Archie's Ace in the Hole Reverse 75
5 Dive Ball 200
1 Dive Ball Reverse 500
6 Escape Rope 75
1 Energy Retrieval Reverse 75
4 EXP Share 50
1 EXP Share Reverse 75
4 Fresh Water Set 50
3 Gardevoir Spirit Link 50
5 Groudon Spirit Link 50
5 Kyogre Spirit Link 50
3 Maxie's Hidden Ball Trick 50
1 Maxie's Hidden Ball Trick Reverse 75
6 Professor Birch's Observations 100
2 Rare Candy 50
6 Repeat Ball 50
1 Repeat Ball Reverse 75
3 Rough Seas 100
5 Scorched Earth 100
2 Scorched Earth Reverse 125
6 Shrine of Memories 150
1 Shrine of Memories Reverse 250
2 Silent Lab 150
3 Silent Lab Reverse 200
2 Teammates 50
5 Weakness Policy 100
2 Weakness Policy Reverse 125
7 Shield Energy 50
3 Wonder Energy 50

Roaring Skies
13 Gallade Spirit Link 50
1 Gallade Spirit Link Reverse 75
12 Healing Scarf 50
2 Healing Scarf Reverse 75
16 Latios Spirit Link 50
3 Latios Spirit Link Reverse 75
12 Mega Turbo 75
1 Mega Turbo Reverse 150
14 Rayquaza Spirit Link 75
1 Rayquaza Spirit Link Reverse 100
13 Revive 50
2 Revive Reverse 75
10 Sky Field 50
15 Steven 50
1 Steven Reverse 75
13 Switch 50
1 Switch Reverse 75
6 Trainers' Mail 400
11 Ultra Ball 50
1 Ultra Ball Reverse 100
9 Wally 50
3 Wally Reverse 75
13 Wide Lens 50
2 Wide Lens Reverse 75
7 Double Dragon Energy 75
1 Double Dragon Energy Reverse 100

Ancient Origins
8 Ace Trainer
1 Ace Trainer Reverse
8 Ampharos Spirit Link
1 Ampharos Spirit Link Reverse
8 Eco Arm
1 Eco Arm Reverse
8 Energy Recycler
3 Energy Recycler Reverse
8 Faded Town
3 Faded Town Reverse
8 Forest of Giant Plants 250
1 Forest of Giant Plants Reverse
8 Hex Maniac
3 Hex Maniac Reverse
8 Level Ball
2 Level Ball Reverse
8 Lucky Helmet
1 Lucky Helmet Reverse
8 Lysandre 100
1 Lysandre Reverse
8 Paint Roller
8 Sceptile Spirit Link
3 Sceptile Spirit Link Reverse
8 Tyranitar Spirit Link
3 Tyranitar Spirit Link Reverse
8 Dangerous Energy
1 Dangerous Energy Reverse
8 Flash Energy

BREAKthrough
1 Assault Vest
5 Buddy-Buddy Rescue
3 Brigette
1 Brigette Reverse
3 Fisherman
3 Float Stone
7 Giovanni's Scheme
1 Giovanni's Scheme Reverse
7 Glalie Spirit Link
1 Glalie Spirit Link Reverse
2 Houndoom Spirit Link
2 Houndoom Spirit Link Reverse
3 Heavy Ball
2 Heavy Boots
2 Judge 100
2 Mewtwo Spirit Link
5 Parallel City 100
8 Professor's Letter
3 Reserved Ticket
3 Skyla
1 Skyla Reverse
10 Super Rod 250
1 Super Rod Reverse
4 Town Map
2 Burning Energy Reverse
1 Rainbow Energy
1 Rainbow Energy Reverse

BREAKpoint
5 All-Night Party
21 Bursting Balloon 100
2 Bursting Balloon Reverse 300
8 Deliquent
12 Fighting Fury Belt 400
2 Fighting Fury Belt Reverse 650
8 Great Ball
8 Gyarados Spirit Link
3 Max Elixir 600
2 Max Elixir Reverse 900
13 Max Potion 75
1 Max Potion Reverse 150
8 Misty's Determination
1 Misty's Determination Reverse
8 Pokemon Catcher
2 Pokemon Catcher Reverse
8 Potion
3 Professor Sycamore
8 Psychic's Third Eye
1 Psychic's Third Eye Reverse
16 Puzzle of Time 100
8 Reverse Valley
1 Reverse Valley Reverse
8 Scizor Spirit Link
1 Scizor Spirit Link Reverse
8 Tierno
1 Tierno Reverse
8 Splash Energy
1 Splash Energy Reverse

Fates Collide
8 Alakazam Spirit Link
2 Alakazam Spirit Link Reverse
8 Altaria Spirit Link
2 Altaria Spirit Link Reverse
8 Audino Spirit Link
4 Audino Spirit Link Reverse
8 Bent Spoon
1 Bent Spoon Reverse
8 Chaos Tower
2 Chaos Tower Reverse
8 Devolution Spray
3 Devolution Spray Reverse
8 Dome Fossil Kabuto
4 Dome Fossil Kabuto Reverse
8 Energy Pouch
2 Energy Pouch Reverse
8 Energy Reset
4 Energy Reset Reverse
8 Fairy Drop
8 Fairy Garden
3 Fairy Garden Reverse
8 Fossil Excavation Kit
8 Helix Fossil Omanyte
8 Lass's Special
1 Lass's Special Reverse
8 Mega Catcher
2 Mega Catcher Reverse
7 N 400
2 N Reverse
8 Old Amber Aerodactyl
1 Old Amber Aerodactyl Reverse
8 Pokemon Fan Club
1 Pokemon Fan Club Reverse
8 Power Memory
5 Power Memory Reverse
8 Random Receiver
1 Random Receiver Reverse
8 Scorched Earth
1 Scorched Earth Reverse
8 Shauna
1 Shauna Reverse
8 Team Rocket's Handiwork
8 Ultra Ball
1 Ultra Ball Reverse
8 Double Colorless Energy
8 Strong Energy
2 Strong Energy Reverse

Steam Siege
24 Armor Fossil Shieldon
4 Armor Fossil Shieldon Reverse
24 Captivating PokePuff
1 Captivating PokePuff Reverse
24 Claw Fossil Anorith
1 Claw Fossil Anorith Reverse
24 Gardevoir Spirit Link
2 Gardevoir Spirit Link Reverse
24 Greedy Dice
3 Greedy Dice Reverse
24 Ninja Boy
3 Ninja Boy Reverse
24 Pokemon Ranger
2 Pokemon Ranger Reverse
24 Special Charge
2 Special Charge Reverse
24 Steelix Spirit Link
2 Steelix Spirit Link Reverse

Evolutions
24 Blastoise Spirit Link
2 Blastoise Spirit Link Reverse
24 Brock's Grit
1 Brock's Grit Reverse
24 Charizard Spirit Link
2 Charizard Spirit Link Reverse
24 Devolution Spray
1 Devolution Spray Reverse
24 Energy Retrieval
1 Energy Retrieval Reverse
24 Full Heal
1 Full Heal Reverse
24 Maintenance
3 Maintenance Reverse
24 Misty's Determination
6 Misty's Determination Reverse
24 Pidgeot Spirit Link
1 Pidgeot Spirit Link Reverse
24 Pokedex
1 Pokedex Reverse
24 Potion
2 Potion Reverse
24 Professor Oak's Hint
3 Professor Oak's Hint Reverse
24 Revive
3 Revive Reverse
24 Slowbro Spirit Link
3 Slowbro Spirit Link Reverse
24 Super Potion
24 Switch
6 Switch Reverse
24 Venusaur Spirit Link
1 Venusaur Spirit Link Reverse
24 Double Colorless Energy
4 Double Colorless Energy Reverse

Generations
8 Clemont
2 Clemont Reverse
6 Crushing Hammer
1 Crushing Hammer Reverse
8 Energy Switch
1 Energy Switch Reverse
8 Evosoda
8 Imakuni?
8 Maintenance
2 Maintenance Reverse
6 Max Revive
8 Olympia
1 Olympia Reverse
8 PokeBall
1 PokeBall Reverse
8 Pokemon Center Lady
1 Pokemon Center Lady Reverse
4 Pokemon Fan Club
8 Revitalizer
8 Red Card
8 Shauna
5 Team Flare Grunt
2 Team Flare Grunt Reverse
6 Double Colorless Energy 100
1 Double Colorless Energy Reverse
6 Floral Crown
5 Wally

Sun and Moon
24 Big Malasada
24 Crushing Hammer
24 Energy Retrieval
24 Energy Switch
24 EXP Share
24 Great Ball
24 Hau
24 Illima
24 Lillie
24 Nest Ball
24 Poison Barb
24 PokeBall
24 Pokemon Catcher
24 Potion
24 Professor Kukui
24 Rare Candy
24 Repel
24 Rotom Dex
24 Switch
24 Team Skull Grunt
24 Timer Ball
24 Ultra Ball
24 Double Colorless Energy
24 Rainbow Energy
About the max elixirs, do you mean 3 for 600 or each one is 600?
 
I'm interested in sending bulk to get the sr DCE, sr fighting, grass and lighting energy, sr field blower, sr max potion, and sr rare candy
which i believe is 24900 points. Do you still have all of those avaliable?
 
I need:

1x Zoroark- 400
2x Vikavolt GX- 800
1x Tapu Koko GX- 800
1x Oranguru- 250
1x Vikavolt- 100

I have:

470 Common/Uncommon bulk

Would you do this trade?

Additionally, do you have any Charjabug, Tapu Koko Promo, or Klefki from Steam Siege? I would add extra bulk for these @Curious Cleffa I would appreciate a response ASAP as i need these cards very soon.

Pretty sure I've got all those, will double check tonight! Been crazy busy with school, work and getting ready to graduate. Should definitely have Charjabug, how many of those do you need? No Tapu Koko promos, and I possibly might have some Klefki as well. How many Klefki?

About the max elixirs, do you mean 3 for 600 or each one is 600?
The points are for 1 card. So 1 Max Elixir is 600 points.

I have six hundred points worth of bulk for your vikavolt GX full art.
Let me double check if it's still available, gonna be updating the thread tonight!

What are the bulk points for reverse rares and holos?
All reverses are 8 points, and the holos are 15 points each.

I'm interested in sending bulk to get the sr DCE, sr fighting, grass and lighting energy, sr field blower, sr max potion, and sr rare candy
which i believe is 24900 points. Do you still have all of those avaliable?
Going to be updating my thread tonight, from what I remember Field Blower, Fighting Energy, Max Potion are definitely available. Possibly Rare Candy as well. DCE is definitely gone, along with the lightning energy. For the grass energy I can't remember aha
 
Needs:

1x Zoroark 400
2x Kleki HAVE?
1x Combee HAVE?
4x Metagross GX 1600
1x Oranguru 250
1x Starmie EVO HAVE?
1x Turtonator GX 500
1x Volcanion 200
2x Brooklet Hill HAVE?
1x Charjabug HAVE?
2x Vikavolt 200

Have:

470 UC/C= 2350
167 reverse= 1336

=3686

I had to change my list, sorry!
 
Hey, Cleffa. I live in Canada, but I'm not super far from the border, so, could I still do a bulk trade? I have 3400 points of bulk for your 3 Max Elixirs and 4 Ns. Also, what are the points for Pokemon Ranger and Hex Maniac?
 
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Actually could I get a full art toxapex GX instead?
I've got a Toxapex FA available! Still 600 points of NM-M English bulk! PM me to confirm this trade! :)

Needs:

1x Zoroark 400
2x Kleki HAVE?
1x Combee HAVE?
4x Metagross GX 1600
1x Oranguru 250
1x Starmie EVO HAVE?
1x Turtonator GX 500
1x Volcanion 200
2x Brooklet Hill HAVE?
1x Charjabug HAVE?
2x Vikavolt 200

Have:

470 UC/C= 2350
167 reverse= 1336

=3686

I had to change my list, sorry!

Should have all those, just gotta double check on the Starmie! Have the rest.
Klefi - 40 points each
Combee - 30 points
Starmie - 60 points
Brooklet Hill - 40 points each
Charjabug - 50 points each

I have 1200 points worth of bulk for your FA Professor Kukui.
As long as the bulk is English, NM-M, and no energies or world championship cards, PM me to confirm! :D

Hey, Cleffa. I live in Canada, but I'm not super far from the border, so, could I still do a bulk trade? I have 3400 points of bulk for your 3 Max Elixirs and 4 Ns. Also, what are the points for Pokemon Ranger and Hex Maniac?
Definitely! I just don't provide tracking to international trades. And those points are:
Pokemon Ranger - 70 points each
Hex Maniac - 100 points each

Hey Cleffa! I'll Give you 1300 points of bulk for your decidueye GX
Sounds good! PM me to confirm as long as your bulk is NM-M, English and no energies or world championship cards! :D
 
Sorry for always change my offers, my haves are changin frequenty atm:

Your:
2 Klefki 80
1 Combee 30
4 Metagross GX 1600
2 Charjabug 100
2 Vikabvolt 200
1 Umbreon GX 500
1 Koko GX 600
1 Vikavolt GX 400

=3510

My:
435 UC/C= 2175
167 reverse= 1336

=3511

I would really appreciate more quicker responses since these cards are needed by the 29th. @CuriousCleffa
 
So do rare reverses go for 8 points as well? And do you mean You won't accept them as in I can't send them to you at all?
 
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