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Vileplume an Attempt at Rogue!

Emolga2254

Emolga2254

AwesomeEmolga
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Pokemon
  • 4-1-3 vileplume (BCR)
  • 2 Raquaza (DRV)
  • 2 Combee PLS
  • 2 Riolu PLS
  • 2 <metal attacker / kyreum counter (KIink DEX or Cobalion ex
  • 2 Darumaka NXD
    18 total
Trainers
  • 4 Juniper
  • 4 N
  • 2 Skyla
  • 2 Colress
  • 12 supporters
  • 4 rare candy
  • 3 ultra ball
  • 3 catcher
  • 2 heavy ball / level ball (vileplume retreat is 3 as well as landy and ray)
  • 1 Computer search ace spec
  • 2 tropical beach
  • 4 silver bangle
Energy
  • 4x prism energies
  • 3x blend GRPD
  • 2x blend WFML
  • 2x DCE
Strategy
The strategy of the deck is to get out attackers that counter the deck you are facing, along with vileplume to take out the defending pokemon easily due to 4x weakness. Deoxys is to add the extra damage for the OHKO, but if I can find more non-ex pokemon then silver bangle could replace deoxys, which will also free up more space.
Counter list
Black kyreum - Rayquaza
Keldeo - virizion
Virgen - <fire attacker>
kyreum <metal attacker>
thunderus/darkrai - landorus ex (for now until I find a non ex attacker)
*note - If you can find non-ex attackers as well as a fire or metal attacker please tell me so I can make the change. I haven't tested it yet because I just thought of the list today (8-19-13)

Reformatted your deck to meet the rules! :D ~Kecleon
Thanks Kecleon :D
 
RE: Vileplume an attempt at rouge!

With Deoxys EX you'll want to play Plasma Energies. You might as well go 4 Prism, 4 Blend GRPD and 4 Blend WLFM.
Fire attacker choice could be Victini EX, in which case you could think about Victory Piece to go with it.
Metal attacker choice has to be Cobalion EX, there is no better choice.
Another tech to think about is Leavanny NVI, which is also in EX Battle Boost and thus likely to be in our next set. It has an ability that says all of your Pokémon with Energy attached have no Weakness, so Vileplume won't be hindering yourself :)
 
RE: Vileplume an attempt at rouge!

Awesome, I was trying to remove deoxys and replace him with bangles, which also frees up more room. Also do you think a psychic attacker would do better against tdk as you could take 2 prizes off their deoxys. Any non-ex fire type or metal / psychics?
 
RE: Vileplume an attempt at rouge!

For a non ex attacker that is psychic type I would consider meloetta from Boundaries Crossed, who has a one psychic energy attack that will hurt any psychic attacker with any energy on it.
Otherwise Mewtwo EX, which is an ex but does the same thing but better, and for one more energy..
Hope this helps!
 
If you could get some terrakion that would be good to have in the deck. However they would be taken out by an emrald slash in one hit. Terrakion is a good substitute for landorus and isn't ex. However if the virgen weakness is something you don't want then don't add it.
 
I'd recommend Sawk PLB, for 1 Colorless Energy he can OHKO Absol, and can almost OHKO Darkrai.
And that's without Vileplume, with Vileplume up, Sawk by itself would be 200 damage to any Team Plasma Pokemon with Fighting weakness! o_0

As for a Metal attacker I'd definitely go with Cobalion EX, even though it is an EX it can OHKO Kyurem as well as Discard Special Energies..

PS. What is a "Virizion NXD"? I don't think such a card exists.. Why not Tropius for the Leaf attacker? It also gives you Card Draw :)
 
I believe virizion is in plasma blast as a secret rare the one that uses leaf wallop the original I believe is NV not NXD
 
Sheriff_K said:
I'd recommend Sawk PLB, for 1 Colorless Energy he can OHKO Absol, and can almost OHKO Darkrai.
And that's without Vileplume, with Vileplume up, Sawk by itself would be 200 damage to any Team Plasma Pokemon with Fighting weakness! o_0

As for a Metal attacker I'd definitely go with Cobalion EX, even though it is an EX it can OHKO Kyurem as well as Discard Special Energies..

PS. What is a "Virizion NXD"? I don't think such a card exists.. Why not Tropius for the Leaf attacker? It also gives you Card Draw :)
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Sawk PLB does 20 Damage to Darkrai and comes very close to 8 hit KO Darkrai. Other then that I agree Sawk can help out here. It deals 100 damage to Thundurus regularly and with Vileplume can do 400 damage.
 
I was thinking about the deck last night and saw deoxys was taking too much space, so I'm trying to replace him with bangles. When going through my common box I found combee(pls) which does 30 for Keldeo and then KIink which does 20. Both these cards allow me to switch them onto my bench so does anyone think a wall might be good?
Thanks everyone and I'll fix the Virizion mistake if I can figure out how too.
I also found Sawk and I think that could replace Landy, as I'm trying to use 1-2 energy attackers.
I might have to use Coballion but I think I only have one and I'm trying not to spend too much money but if I have to I have to...
Thanks so much everybody!
 
camoclone said:
Sheriff_K said:
I'd recommend Sawk PLB, for 1 Colorless Energy he can OHKO Absol, and can almost OHKO Darkrai.
And that's without Vileplume, with Vileplume up, Sawk by itself would be 200 damage to any Team Plasma Pokemon with Fighting weakness! o_0

As for a Metal attacker I'd definitely go with Cobalion EX, even though it is an EX it can OHKO Kyurem as well as Discard Special Energies..

PS. What is a "Virizion NXD"? I don't think such a card exists.. Why not Tropius for the Leaf attacker? It also gives you Card Draw :)
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Sawk PLB does 20 Damage to Darkrai and comes very close to 8 hit KO Darkrai. Other then that I agree Sawk can help out here. It deals 100 damage to Thundurus regularly and with Vileplume can do 400 damage.
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Ah, yeah, I meant Thundurus... >_<
 
Fire attacker is reshiram, with bangle, destroys Genesect. Metal type, you can just use Cobalion EX. Stunfisk DR is a great attacker in this, for one energy it can OHKO darkrai and has the ability to Rumble stall, with convenient resistance to lightning. Not sure if you need a grass attacker, you have Oddish lol, which for DCE can OHKO a Keldeo :p.
 
Roguechomp, thats odd.

Stunfisk does 20 damage for 1 energy. With 4x weakness, its going to be 80 damage. That doesn't OHKO darkrai. Same with oddish.
 
Here's a Deck List on a Vileplume Deck, maybe it'll help:

Pokémon - 13
4 Oddish BCR
3 Vileplume BCR
1 Reshiram NXD
1 Chimchar PLS
1 Zekrom NXD
1 Rayquaza DRV
1 Riolu PLS 76
1 Trubbish DRX

Trainers - 36
4 Professor Juniper
3 N
4 Skyla
3 Colress

4 Ultra Ball
2 Level Ball
4 Pokemon Catcher
4 Rare Candy
4 Silver Bangle
1 Super Rod
1 Dowsing Machine

2 Tropical Beach

Energy - 11
4 Double Colorless
4 Prism
2 Fire
1 Lightning

It uses 1 Energy (mostly DCE) attackers to hit for 80 damage to non-EX and 200 damage to EX Pokemon (with Bangles.)

The main problem I can think of, with a Deck that uses tech'd attackers, is susceptability to Enhanced Hammers. But since most of these only need 1 Energy, I guess getting Hammered won't be as big a deal, unlike other Decks. :p
 
I've tried a few variants and messed around a bit with this Deck. And using 1 Energy attackers makes it easier, but very susceptible to getting your Pokemon Knocked Out in 1 turn. So I think 1 DCE attackers is a far better way to go about it, but the weakness to that is the dependance on DCE. Should it get Hammered, which is very likely this Meta since everyone is running Hammers, the odds of getting another DCE is slim. And even if you do, most Decks run multiple types, thus you just wasted a DCE to power up 1 of your attackers, when you needed another attacker powered up as well for next turn. And if you don't get a DCE, you need 2 turns to recover from a Hammer.

It comes down to not wasting your Energy unless you know you can OHKO, or else you risk getting Hammered.

Another downside to the Deck, is that with 1 of Tech attackers, the odds of getting that ONE crucial attacker for the match-up Prized, is very high. And in that case there really isn't much you can do. You can somewhat squeeze through if played right. (I run 1 Iris for just such occasions. I was able to Iris for +50 dmg, combined with a Bangle, to KO the enemy, even though I didn't have the correct Type Weakness to abuse.)
Losing your attacker is also a huge problem, and for that I was running 2x Revive, since Super Rod is too slow and because there are no Basic Energies in the Deck.

In the end, I think that the Deck is too inconsisent, far more so than Gothitelle/Accelgor was, to be truly viable. Although with enough, or lucky enough, players, I think it may be okay. But it's mostly just a "for fun" Deck in my opinion...
 
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