Finished Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Nerds Win

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

After that, ESP notices that someone has a double vote. "It has to be ISB, Hatman, or Teapot", he says. Well, now it's only possible for ESP or Storm Blade to have the double vote. And since ESP noticed it in the first place, it can't be him...right?

ESP is a veteran player of this game. Even if he is a jock or nerd (and I'm not saying one way or the other if he is or isn't), he would not make such an obvious slip-up.

 

[Blah]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

@DNA My point is that it's not a slip-up, it was an on purpose move to make us think that it's not possible ESP could have the double vote.

Also, only two people, Storm Blade and ESP, have me voted now. RB just said there was three votes. Do you see any reason to believe that Storm Blade would have put a double vote on me?

 

[Eevee]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

Unvote: Blah237

He has been trying to figure out who is a jock/nerd. He could be useful in the future.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

Alright, here we go. It's reasoning time. I apologize ahead of time for the lack of quotes in this post, quotes kind of glitch up my computer when I try to use too many of them.

Let's start by getting straight to the point. Vote: ESP

Now for the reasons. Remember all the way back when I though ESP was suspicious for saying he wasn't going to kill Lenny and then Lenny was killed? Now, that seemed ridiculous at the time. It was a total shot in the dark. Yes it was. Still is.

Now, in the current day, ESP is the first one to vote for me. Nothing super suspicious about that, there has to be a first to vote for everyone right?

After that, ESP notices that someone has a double vote. "It has to be ISB, Hatman, or Teapot", he says. Well, now it's only possible for ESP or Storm Blade to have the double vote. uhm what, no. Recount your stuff bro. And since ESP noticed it in the first place, it can't be him...right?

This is where my brain clicked. ESP was the first to mention the double vote thing, so as to make every one else think he couldn't have the double vote. He CAN'T have double vote, he and someone else got to two, then four more voted and brought it to seven or something like that. Normally that would seem ridiculous because ESP would have never done that. what does this sentence even mean? HOWEVER, ESP used THE EXACT SAME TACTIC against Lenny. He said he wasn't going to kill him, and then (I think he) did. Oh, so he's saying he's not going to kill you? I do believe he wants to kill you.

But if this is all true, why would ESP want to kill ME so badly? I haven't proven to be anything special or dangerous. uhhhh yes you have, you've killed two of our guys and are throwing random accusations around, much like this one But I was the first one to bring up the point about ESP possibly being a wolf. Now, because of that, he wants me dead before I can say anything else against him, and he wants me dead NOW. Well of course, if you say that someone is a wolf, they aren't going to like you.That's why he used whatever his double vote ability was against me. Once again, he doesn't even have Double Vote.

Alright, that's it. Let me know what you guys think. The evidence seems really solid to me, so point out any flaws in my logic there might be that I didn't think of. Why does Double Vote mean Jock? It doesn't, as in my experience, a townie always has that role if there is a double vote. I've never seen a Werewolf with double vote before.

Comments in bold. I say we lynch Blah today or tomorrow, since I doubt we have enough time left today. You're seriously getting annoying dude.

 

[Dork Void]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

Silly Blah237, you confused yourself. ESP and DNA voted. You had 2 votes. Swaim voted. You had 3 votes. ISB, Teapot, and Hatman voted. You had 7 votes. Therefore, either ISB, Teapot, or Hatman had the double vote, not ISB. I think you got ISB and ESP confused. Anyway, I did some thorough vote checking; I'm pretty sure its Hatman with the double vote. After Blah237 had 7 on him 2 more voted (9), DNA, Teapot, and ISB unvoted, so he would be at 6 if none of them had the double vote, and 5 if one of them did. He had 6 voted, so that means that the only one of the 3 who must have a double vote that hadn't unvoted was Hatman, so Hatman must have the duble vote. Somebody may or may not want to check and see if I missed something.

 

[ESP]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

Only ESP and Storm Blade still have votes against me. One of them wants me dead, and that one wants me dead FAST. I have bad feeling that Storm Blade is not the one who wants to kill me...

Are you kidding me? I leave the computer (that's allowed you know) to play in a concert, and don't get a chance to change my vote. So that makes me "suspicious" or whatever because I still have a vote for you less than 7 hours after the first person has voted for someone else? Pathetic.

You're right though. I do want you dead. However, not for any reason other than your incredibly flawed logic. This. THIS is what I was talking about when I said that you will force us into losing a key player. You need to think before you type, and make sure you have fact to base your opinion on. And then, you need to make sure that your opinion isn't so far out in left field that even Babe Ruth couldn't hit there. Seriously.

Anyways, as much as I would like to get rid of Blah once and for all, I think Storm Blade will be the best option to avoid the random lynch right now, and hopefully, she turns out to be a wolf. Now we just have to survive another day of Blah's incessant ramblings about who's suspicious and who's not for no good reason...

Vote: Storm Blade

Oh god. I just saw that you posted.

Alright, here we go. It's reasoning time. I apologize ahead of time for the lack of quotes in this post, quotes kind of glitch up my computer when I try to use too many of them.

Reasoning time? More like "flawed logic time".

Let's start by getting straight to the point. Vote: ESP

Now for the reasons. Remember all the way back when I though ESP was suspicious for saying he wasn't going to kill Lenny and then Lenny was killed? Now, that seemed ridiculous at the time. It was a total shot in the dark.

Oh yeah, shouldn't Meaty be really suspicious too because he kept talking about killing TDL? So if I say something, then the opposite happens, I would be the one to blame. cool.

Now, in the current day, ESP is the first one to vote for me. Nothing super suspicious about that, there has to be a first to vote for everyone right?

Finally you say something reasonable.

After that, ESP notices that someone has a double vote. "It has to be ISB, Hatman, or Teapot", he says. Well, now it's only possible for ESP or Storm Blade to have the double vote. And since ESP noticed it in the first place, it can't be him...right?

RB posted a vote after DNA and I voted for you and there were 2 votes for you. Then, several other people voted for you, and there was then 1 more vote for you than there should have been. That is why I pointed it out.

This is where my brain clicked. ESP was the first to mention the double vote thing, so as to make every one else think he couldn't have the double vote. Normally that would seem ridiculous because ESP would have never done that. HOWEVER, ESP used THE EXACT SAME TACTIC against Lenny. He said he wasn't going to kill him, and then (I think he) did.

But if this is all true, why would ESP want to kill ME so badly? I haven't proven to be anything special or dangerous. But I was the first one to bring up the point about ESP possibly being a wolf. Now, because of that, he wants me dead before I can say anything else against him, and he wants me dead NOW. That's why he used whatever his double vote ability was against me.

Why would I want to kill you? This post. This post is exactly why I want to kill you. You are so naive that it's unbearable, and other people are starting to see your stupidity too.

Alright, that's it. Let me know what you guys think. The evidence seems really solid to me, so point out any flaws in my logic there might be that I didn't think of.

I'll let you know what I think. Your evidence is anything but solid. You need to get your facts straight before accusing someone of anything, and especially before voting for them. You're digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole and no one is going to help you out of it, that's for sure. I know I'll be first in line to shovel a little more dirt into it.

And with that, I bid you all a good night.

 

[Blah]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

I may or may not have just checked you, DV. And you're wrong. Hatman unvoted me. I understand it makes no sense that ISB, Hatman, or Teapot don't have the double vote, but it's only possible that ESP or Storm Blade could have it at this point.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

I may or may not have just checked you, DV. And you're wrong. Hatman unvoted me. I understand it makes no sense that ISB, Hatman, or Teapot don't have the double vote, but it's only possible that ESP or Storm Blade could have it at this point.

Please explain to us why only ESP or Storm Blade can have double vote? Give us your math. TELL US WHY only those two can have the double vote.

This should be fun.

 

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

It isn't possible for ESP to have it. ESP was the only one to vote before me, and at Risk's first post count, it said you had 2 votes. That rules ESP and I out automatically.

I do stand by the assumption that you're a neutral, but like I said earlier, the reason I voted for you was not for solid evidence, but because we had no leads and I wanted you to be quiet.
Storm Blade seems to be a potential jock/nerd, and I think her most recent post confirmed my suspicions:

He has been trying to figure out who is a jock/nerd. He could be useful in the future.

Useful for what, exactly? I don't see it.

 

[ESP]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

I may or may not have just checked you, DV. And you're wrong. Hatman unvoted me. I understand it makes no sense that ISB, Hatman, or Teapot don't have the double vote, but it's only possible that ESP or Storm Blade could have it at this point.

Or did you ever realize that RB could have made a mistake recently? That happens.

Also, arguing with several peoples' logic by using your own flawed logic will never work.

 

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

Also, arguing with several peoples' logic by using your own flawed logic will never work.

It's his role. His role requires him to be stupid in some form or fashion. That's why I think he's a neutral.

Or he could be a nerd with a role that implies he must act stupid.

Either way, for now, I think Storm Blade is a stronger lead than Blah237. I'll probably vote for him when we have no leads.

 

[ESP]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

It's his role. His role requires him to be stupid in some form or fashion. That's why I think he's a neutral.

Or he could be a nerd with a role that implies he must act stupid.

Either way, for now, I think Storm Blade is a stronger lead than Blah237. I'll probably vote for him when we have no leads.

Seriously? It's his role?

 

[Rock Wrecker]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

Ok well I've read everything and honestly I don't really feel Blah or Storm Blade are wolves. Blah spouts random theories every few posts and I don't know if any of them have actually made sense... Storm Blade says that PMJ could kill a bunch of people which I agree could be dangerous, but I don't think he really did anything wrong. It seemed kinda like trying to get a random lead. I say they're both just bad townies... but then there's the problem of having to vote by two more days... I honestly have no idea what to do.
On Blah's latest theory there is a huuugggeee gap in your theory man. After DNA and ESP voted Brisk Cakers (I think I'll just call you that forever.) said two votes. So there's no way all of what you're saying could fit completely together. Swain voted and then BC said 3 votes. After Hatman, ISB, and Teapot voted Brisk said 7 meaning one of them had double vote. So it couldn't be ESP... oh great I do all the math and DV has beaten me to it... yeah I think Hatman has double vote which kinda makes me think hes a townie but you can't be sure.

 

[ESP]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

Wait, do you guys remember when Blah was acting like all friendly and joyous earlier in the game? What happened to that?

 

[Inigo Montoya]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

Wait, do you guys remember when Blah was acting like all friendly and joyous earlier in the game? What happened to that?

He took his 'flavour text' too seriously.

 

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

I remember him mentioning somewhere today that "he was reading too much into his role"...?

This leads me to believe more that his role implies he must be stupid. That's why he's using flawed logic and making random accusations today, so I believe.

 

[Argetlam]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

Do we really want I guy that spews random accusations and gets our own players killed still around here? I am definetly leaning toward voting Blah off. I think we should wait until the end of tomorrow (28th) and if no-one comes up with any leads, we lynch Blah.

Reasons:

He is not being much of a help and his accusations are random without much real proof (as stated by Rock Wrecker)
His flawed reasoning has killed two townies already. Do we really want this to keep happening?

However, there is always the chance that he is simply a well meaning townie that is new to the game. What do you guys think?

 

[Inigo Montoya]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

Do we really want I guy that spews random accusations and gets our own players killed still around here? I am definetly leaning toward voting Blah off. I think we should wait until the end of tomorrow (28th) and if no-one comes up with any leads, we lynch Blah.

Reasons:

He is not being much of a help and his accusations are random without much real proof (as stated by Rock Wrecker)
His flawed reasoning has killed two townies already. Do we really want this to keep happening?

However, there is always the chance that he is simply a well meaning townie that is new to the game. What do you guys think?

No. We don't have time to lynch blah today (as much as I'd want to, it sadly isn't happening), its Storm Blade or bust.

Blah may be well meaning, but he's annoying, and distracting us from our goal. Every time we have to argue with him it takes away valuable time we need for finding real reasons to lynch someone.

 

[Argetlam]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

No. We don't have time to lynch blah today (as much as I'd want to, it sadly isn't happening), its Storm Blade or bust.

Blah may be well meaning, but he's annoying, and distracting us from our goal. Every time we have to argue with him it takes away valuable time we need for finding real reasons to lynch someone.

We still have two more days... This day ends on the 29th.

In regard to the second line, exactly! This is why we should lynch him, and we have all of tomorrow and the next day to do it...

 

[Dork Void]

RE: Werewolf XI "Revenge of the Nerds" - Day 3 End 11/29/2011 7AM GMT+8

I'm going to quote all of the votes, unvotes, and vote counts for Blah237 today to show that its correct so that we don't take longer arguing on it. I'll remove everything from the posts but votes for Blah237 so my post doesn't stretch the page too much.

Vote: Blah237

Vote: blah237

Blah237 : 2

Vote:Blah237

Blah237 - 3

Vote: Blah237

Vote: Blah237

Vote: Blah237

Blah237 - 7 (yes, it is right)

That is the proof that either Hatman, Teapot, or ISB has a double vote.

Vote: Blah237

Vote: Blah237

Here Blah237 has 8 people voting for him and if neither oyeah or Storm Blade has a role that affects their vote count, Blah237 should have 9 votes on him. Then this is where the unvoting begins.

Unvote: blah237

unvote: Blah237

Unvote: Blah237

Blah - 6 Votes

So we had 9, 3 unvoted, we have 6. That means that none of the ones who unvoted at that point have a double vote power, and since ISB and Teapot were 2 of the ones who unvoted, that means that the only person who could possibly have the double vote is Hatman.

At this point nobody has said anything to make me think that they are a wolf. Blah237 has made many stupid accusations, but he was actually not in charge with starting any of the bandwagons, so voting for him due to him killing townies through votes is stupid. Storm Blade was trying to help by revealing the people that PMJ could use his ability on if need be, and Blah237 jumped on him for...what exactly? He's trying to make PMJ kill those people by posting that he can? I saw no aggression in Storm Blade's posts or anything about that PMJ should kill any of those people, and if that's what you are all voting for Storm Blade based on then you are all fools or bandwagoners or both. Therefore, Blah237 gives me the feeling that he was trying quickly to switch the bandwagon off of him and onto Storm Blade. granted, anyone would want to pull the bandwagon off of him, but why Storm Blade? I suppose Hatman can be kind of suspicious (his double vote power really does nothing to clean or incriminate him, unfortunately) since he said we should vote for Blah237 because he was being annoying even after the unvote process began, but I don't think that this is enough reason to vote for Hatman. So, the only person that I see with any real suspicion on is Vote: Blah237. If he can explain an actual reason for him to lead a bandwagon against Storm Blade other than "Didn't wanna die so tried to shift suspicion to the last person to vote for me." then I may unvote.