Finished Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover -Town Wins
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RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
grantm, you aren't making any sense, nor are you explaining your actions. On top of that, there is a counter claim to your role.
[v]GRANTM1999[/v]
grantm, you aren't making any sense, nor are you explaining your actions. On top of that, there is a counter claim to your role.
[v]GRANTM1999[/v]
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
Yet another person says that I'm suspicious... And yet again, they are defending either Blui or Twisted.
*facepalm*
Can we just stick to one bandwagon people? I mean, just because someone says something scummy after you vote, doesn't automatically mean you have to vote with it...
But of course, SheNinja, Corabed, Blui, Twisted and now Grant have all been bandwagoner today... And that's a quarter of all players.
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Grant, seriously? You consider 'If I'm seered, then I come out as scum' a power role... Great. Just great. If anything, that role is detrimental to the town.
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So... LETS ALL JUMP ON ANOTHER WAGON! [/sarcasm]
Yet another person says that I'm suspicious... And yet again, they are defending either Blui or Twisted.
*facepalm*
Can we just stick to one bandwagon people? I mean, just because someone says something scummy after you vote, doesn't automatically mean you have to vote with it...
But of course, SheNinja, Corabed, Blui, Twisted and now Grant have all been bandwagoner today... And that's a quarter of all players.
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Grant, seriously? You consider 'If I'm seered, then I come out as scum' a power role... Great. Just great. If anything, that role is detrimental to the town.
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So... LETS ALL JUMP ON ANOTHER WAGON! [/sarcasm]
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
However, what if grant's inexperience is the reason why Flys Gone counter-claimed? What if, grant is correct, and Flys Gone is seizing the opportunity to turn the town against him, that way allowing scum to take advantage of our turmoil and get 4 town kills by Day 2.
I'm keeping an eye on Flys Gone, but
VOTE: GRANTM1999
However, what if grant's inexperience is the reason why Flys Gone counter-claimed? What if, grant is correct, and Flys Gone is seizing the opportunity to turn the town against him, that way allowing scum to take advantage of our turmoil and get 4 town kills by Day 2.
I'm keeping an eye on Flys Gone, but
VOTE: GRANTM1999
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
^You are right.
@EVERYONE: I only mentioned James being suspicious because he claimed RED to have a KILLING role, and used that killing role against the town. I said it makes sense that James is telling the truth, because all of our info point to that, but it is just a little suspicious.
@James: No, but Mason it a power role correct? Also, if you hadn't spilled your guts then corabed would've had no reason to be seer'd.
@Flys Gone: I didn't vote ninja just for the acronyms, but he was using them incessently and was repeatedly asked to stop. That was a very small reason of why I voted him, the other reasons I have already stated multiple times.
@Lucky Fire and KoN: Explanation?! I thought it would be useful to the town to know I'm the seer! I don't see how that's so bad! I didn't think you would all use stupid logic leading to the lynch of the seer!
^You are right.
@EVERYONE: I only mentioned James being suspicious because he claimed RED to have a KILLING role, and used that killing role against the town. I said it makes sense that James is telling the truth, because all of our info point to that, but it is just a little suspicious.
@James: No, but Mason it a power role correct? Also, if you hadn't spilled your guts then corabed would've had no reason to be seer'd.
@Flys Gone: I didn't vote ninja just for the acronyms, but he was using them incessently and was repeatedly asked to stop. That was a very small reason of why I voted him, the other reasons I have already stated multiple times.
@Lucky Fire and KoN: Explanation?! I thought it would be useful to the town to know I'm the seer! I don't see how that's so bad! I didn't think you would all use stupid logic leading to the lynch of the seer!
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
You don't just claim seer in WW, you should know that the wolves will target you. Unless, of course, you are aligned with he wolves or are death proof in some way. The former is more probable at this point. Plus, we have to take into consideration that there are 2 Oak claims, so one of you is scum (probably).
While it doesn't make any sense to claim a role that would be in the game, it makes even less sense to counter without really being that role.
You don't just claim seer in WW, you should know that the wolves will target you. Unless, of course, you are aligned with he wolves or are death proof in some way. The former is more probable at this point. Plus, we have to take into consideration that there are 2 Oak claims, so one of you is scum (probably).
While it doesn't make any sense to claim a role that would be in the game, it makes even less sense to counter without really being that role.
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
Explanation: Why'd you claim seer? Practically everyone knows that claiming seer puts a really large target on you. If we don't lynch you, the wolves will kill you tonight. If they don't kill you, something's obviously up, and where does that bide with Flygon and you, grantm?
I mean, you did claim seer because you deduced that it'd help the town. But wouldn't you know better? I was a wolf-seer in my second game of WW, and I benefitted the wolf team greatly when I said that somebody was a dangerous indie, and that my role had a one-time seer ability. Quick thinking helps you out a lot in WW.
Put simply, it's better to lynch a person that could get a ton of PRs killed than to lynch inactives.
...blast it, did I confuse myself again? >_<
Explanation: Why'd you claim seer? Practically everyone knows that claiming seer puts a really large target on you. If we don't lynch you, the wolves will kill you tonight. If they don't kill you, something's obviously up, and where does that bide with Flygon and you, grantm?
I mean, you did claim seer because you deduced that it'd help the town. But wouldn't you know better? I was a wolf-seer in my second game of WW, and I benefitted the wolf team greatly when I said that somebody was a dangerous indie, and that my role had a one-time seer ability. Quick thinking helps you out a lot in WW.
Put simply, it's better to lynch a person that could get a ton of PRs killed than to lynch inactives.
...blast it, did I confuse myself again? >_<
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
Your big reason is that you thought it would be nice for the town to know who their seer is? Uh...why? You had no results or anything and weren't being suspected enough to need to do that to save yourself. You do realize the wolves read this thread too, right? Even if you were really the seer and nobody had counterclaimed, all that would've done is gotten a big target painted onto your back. And you think we're using stupid logic? Uh huh.
I'm not buying it.
[v]GRANTM1999[/v]
Also, Luckyfire, that made absolutely no sense. Nobody before you has mentioned voting inactives, and that had nothing to do with the beginning of your post either.
Your big reason is that you thought it would be nice for the town to know who their seer is? Uh...why? You had no results or anything and weren't being suspected enough to need to do that to save yourself. You do realize the wolves read this thread too, right? Even if you were really the seer and nobody had counterclaimed, all that would've done is gotten a big target painted onto your back. And you think we're using stupid logic? Uh huh.
I'm not buying it.
[v]GRANTM1999[/v]
Also, Luckyfire, that made absolutely no sense. Nobody before you has mentioned voting inactives, and that had nothing to do with the beginning of your post either.
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
You want the truth!?!?! FINE, here's the truth! You lynch me, you lynch town. Here's my real role, and camo is really stupid for making up this completely strange and dumb role. I am called Green's Ditto, and only Green (corabed) knew my role and alignment. Unfortunately, he/she happened to get modkilled before all this seer claiming nonsense happened. ANYWAY, my role says (paraphrasing to avoid the modkill ofc): I will receive the name of a random role as well as the manga counterpart (ex. Seer, Oak) once per day, and I must claim that role. The catch is that the role is only from the remaining alive players. The name of the ability is Green's suspicious accomplice. UNFORTUNATELY, I happened to get PMed seer from camoclone on day 1! Now, I could have just revealed my role earlier and admitted that I was falsely claiming seer, and I will explain why I defended my claim of seer. I was hoping to avoid the lynch obviously, and with my inexperienced mind, I didn't think everyone would just vote for me for just claiming seer and trying to legitimately back it up. So, the priest/doctor/whoever it is would protect me from the Night Kill and the wolves would've wasted their night kill. This was bad logic, sorry for the confusion for the town. *continues explaining plan* The next day I would find out another remaining role in the game, and claim my true role as Green's Ditto.
Just for clarification, when I am PMed the random role, I am not informed of who actually has that role, probably because that would be overpowered.
You want the truth!?!?! FINE, here's the truth! You lynch me, you lynch town. Here's my real role, and camo is really stupid for making up this completely strange and dumb role. I am called Green's Ditto, and only Green (corabed) knew my role and alignment. Unfortunately, he/she happened to get modkilled before all this seer claiming nonsense happened. ANYWAY, my role says (paraphrasing to avoid the modkill ofc): I will receive the name of a random role as well as the manga counterpart (ex. Seer, Oak) once per day, and I must claim that role. The catch is that the role is only from the remaining alive players. The name of the ability is Green's suspicious accomplice. UNFORTUNATELY, I happened to get PMed seer from camoclone on day 1! Now, I could have just revealed my role earlier and admitted that I was falsely claiming seer, and I will explain why I defended my claim of seer. I was hoping to avoid the lynch obviously, and with my inexperienced mind, I didn't think everyone would just vote for me for just claiming seer and trying to legitimately back it up. So, the priest/doctor/whoever it is would protect me from the Night Kill and the wolves would've wasted their night kill. This was bad logic, sorry for the confusion for the town. *continues explaining plan* The next day I would find out another remaining role in the game, and claim my true role as Green's Ditto.
Just for clarification, when I am PMed the random role, I am not informed of who actually has that role, probably because that would be overpowered.
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
Yeah...
Corabed's role didn't say anything about know a "Green's Ditto."
And how convenient is it that Green cannot validate your claim?
Yeah...
Corabed's role didn't say anything about know a "Green's Ditto."
And how convenient is it that Green cannot validate your claim?
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
Vote Count as of post 330
Teal: 1(PMJ)
Blui: 1 (RaichuGirl)
grantm1999: 7 (Flys Gone 2071, Fancy, Twisted Turtwig, LuckyFire, Keeper of Night, Red Rain, Dark Void)
TwistedTurtwig: 3 (James86134, Teal,grantm1999)
Vote Count as of post 330
Teal: 1(PMJ)
Blui: 1 (RaichuGirl)
grantm1999: 7 (Flys Gone 2071, Fancy, Twisted Turtwig, LuckyFire, Keeper of Night, Red Rain, Dark Void)
TwistedTurtwig: 3 (James86134, Teal,grantm1999)
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
Alright buster, I'm doing everything I can to prove I'm town and help the town, Here's a faceful of logic for you!
CONVENIENT!?!! That is the least convenient thing I can think of! Can you image how INconvenient that is for me?
If I was making that up, I would've left out the part about green. But, it's actually true! Your unwillingness to look at all the sense that makes and how inconvenient it is for me just makes you seem scummy. WHY WOULD ANY TOWN ALIGNED PLAYER EVER CLAIM SEER WILLINGLY?!?! Like I said, the reason I didn't immediately come clean is because when I thought about it, it seemed to me like the night kill wasting plan would actually work, but with my inexperience with the game, I didn't think everyone with the town would start voting for me. I mean really, look how easily that bandwagon grew. The wolves capitalized on me claiming seer very well.
Keeper of Night said:
Alright buster, I'm doing everything I can to prove I'm town and help the town, Here's a faceful of logic for you!
CONVENIENT!?!! That is the least convenient thing I can think of! Can you image how INconvenient that is for me?
If I was making that up, I would've left out the part about green. But, it's actually true! Your unwillingness to look at all the sense that makes and how inconvenient it is for me just makes you seem scummy. WHY WOULD ANY TOWN ALIGNED PLAYER EVER CLAIM SEER WILLINGLY?!?! Like I said, the reason I didn't immediately come clean is because when I thought about it, it seemed to me like the night kill wasting plan would actually work, but with my inexperience with the game, I didn't think everyone with the town would start voting for me. I mean really, look how easily that bandwagon grew. The wolves capitalized on me claiming seer very well.
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
@grantm,
I think people would take you more seriously if you calmed down a bit. Just saying, I know I would.
The way you are acting now, it's like you're trying too hard.
You're doing almost the opposite thing SheNinja was doing. Instead of pointing fingers at everyone, you are claiming multiple things.
I honestly have no idea why a town would claim seer willingly, which is why I don't think you are town. Nobody forced you to claim. In fact, your claim was kind of random.
I have NO DOUBT that there are wolves voting for you. If there are... what? 4? 5? wolves, then obviously some of them jumped the wagon. That doesn't clear you as town though.
Your claim makes sense, but it's kind of late. If you were going to claim seer of all things, why not just claim Ditto in the first place?
@grantm,
I think people would take you more seriously if you calmed down a bit. Just saying, I know I would.
The way you are acting now, it's like you're trying too hard.
You're doing almost the opposite thing SheNinja was doing. Instead of pointing fingers at everyone, you are claiming multiple things.
I honestly have no idea why a town would claim seer willingly, which is why I don't think you are town. Nobody forced you to claim. In fact, your claim was kind of random.
I have NO DOUBT that there are wolves voting for you. If there are... what? 4? 5? wolves, then obviously some of them jumped the wagon. That doesn't clear you as town though.
Your claim makes sense, but it's kind of late. If you were going to claim seer of all things, why not just claim Ditto in the first place?
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
Calm down, high level of aggressiveness? I'm just typing lol.
You, KoN, obviously did not read my posts through. I said I HAVE
To claim the role that was sent to me, and I already explained
Why I didn't claim ditto earlier.
Calm down, high level of aggressiveness? I'm just typing lol.
You, KoN, obviously did not read my posts through. I said I HAVE
To claim the role that was sent to me, and I already explained
Why I didn't claim ditto earlier.
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
You claimed seer. Great. Now the wolves get you.
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How exactly does that help town?
Oh, that's right. It doesn't.
And you EASILY could have claimed Ditto instead of Oak. Either way, the wolves still get you.
No, let's assume you're bad.
The town gets you for fake claiming.
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Wow, that's what's happening now, isn't it?
Because you DID fake claim.
grantm1999 said:
You claimed seer. Great. Now the wolves get you.
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How exactly does that help town?
Oh, that's right. It doesn't.
And you EASILY could have claimed Ditto instead of Oak. Either way, the wolves still get you.
No, let's assume you're bad.
The town gets you for fake claiming.
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Wow, that's what's happening now, isn't it?
Because you DID fake claim.
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
grant, look at the other side of things. Assuming you're telling the truth, yes it is inconvenient to have the one person who could confirm your role dead. However, its quite convenient for you if you're lying.
The wolves practically never target a seer claim with a killing role right away because they know that most doctor/priests will immediately try to protect said seer; instead the wolves tend to use any secondary abilities they have to stop the seer, like roleblocking or role-removing, while they kill other people and hope that they chance upon the doctor or to try to convince the doctor that the seer isn't worth protecting for a night. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about not knowing this though since you seem new to werewolf here.
[uv]grantm1999[/uv]
From what I understand of his "role", KoN, he can't choose to claim Ditto instead of Prof. Oak...he has to claim whatever camoclone tells him. I guess there's no rule against claiming his real role after that, though (assuming, of course, that he's telling the truth).
grant, look at the other side of things. Assuming you're telling the truth, yes it is inconvenient to have the one person who could confirm your role dead. However, its quite convenient for you if you're lying.
The wolves practically never target a seer claim with a killing role right away because they know that most doctor/priests will immediately try to protect said seer; instead the wolves tend to use any secondary abilities they have to stop the seer, like roleblocking or role-removing, while they kill other people and hope that they chance upon the doctor or to try to convince the doctor that the seer isn't worth protecting for a night. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about not knowing this though since you seem new to werewolf here.
[uv]grantm1999[/uv]
From what I understand of his "role", KoN, he can't choose to claim Ditto instead of Prof. Oak...he has to claim whatever camoclone tells him. I guess there's no rule against claiming his real role after that, though (assuming, of course, that he's telling the truth).
RE: Werewolf XVII III: Team Rocket's Takeover - Day 1 Ends September 9th 4 PM EST
I was just about to say: "someone with a brain in their head get into this discussion". Then BAM Dark Void appears.
Just so you guys know, If the majority of the votes are still on me by the end of sunday, i will get myself modkilled, and flip Green's Ditto JUST so you can lynch a scum.
KoN, even you admit that my claim makes sense yet you still dont change your vote.
I was just about to say: "someone with a brain in their head get into this discussion". Then BAM Dark Void appears.
Just so you guys know, If the majority of the votes are still on me by the end of sunday, i will get myself modkilled, and flip Green's Ditto JUST so you can lynch a scum.
KoN, even you admit that my claim makes sense yet you still dont change your vote.
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