Finished Werewolf XVII: Universe - Game Over - Antagonists Win!

[TwistedTurtwig]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

Alright, after last night, I think that it's become pretty clear that we have a dangerous indie on our hands, or there's a wolf that gets a doublekill, which seems slightly too OP to be likely. The flavor text describing the kill involves the victim running away through a forest, seeing their pursuer everywhere. Sound familiar? I'm willing to bet that it's none other than the one and only Slenderman. Furthermore, Kecleon-X has mysteriously teleported away from the last attempts on his life. I'd say that this more or less confirms him as Slenderman, given the creature's habit of disappearing and reappearing. Hopefully his death-proof ability ends sometime soon. The only problem is... how long do we wait until we try to lynch him again? Because the longer we wait, the more victims he'll claim. Just saying.

And I'm also having a bit of difficulty understanding the whole Shocker's list thing. He's claiming that one of the two people still alive on the list is a wolf? If that's his ability, then it's good that we've narrowed it down, but it could be a ruse, all the same. I think I'll be keeping my eye on him to make sure this isn't just an attempt to divert suspicion away from himself.

 

[Kecleon-X]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

^ I'm not the Slenderman, this I assure you. Keep in mind that it isn't just the Slenderman who teleports. Plus the Slenderman doesn't teleport away from hostile events, he literally stands there and takes the heat. And by heat, I mean the bullets that go right through "him" as he is a sentient particle and not a physical being at all. See, what you see as a suited man with tentacles is actually just a facade for a tiny particle that feeds off our life energy to use to scare you.

I was actually planning on writing a novel about the Slenderman at one point, which is how I know this, but alas, the book was cancelled because I found out I couldn't get the copyright from Victor Surge.

 

[Poseidon]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Night 5 Ends August 25th!

^ I'm not the Slenderman, this I assure you. Keep in mind that it isn't just the Slenderman who teleports. Plus the Slenderman doesn't teleport away from hostile events, he literally stands there and takes the heat. And by heat, I mean the bullets that go right through "him" as he is a sentient particle and not a physical being at all. See, what you see as a suited man with tentacles is actually just a facade for a tiny particle that feeds off our life energy to use to scare you.

I was actually planning on writing a novel about the Slenderman at one point, which is how I know this, but alas, the book was cancelled because I found out I couldn't get the copyright from Victor Surge.

But most people don't know this, so it is all together possible that you are Slenderman still.

That being said, I don't think it was Slenderman that killed MDL. Why?

MDL was terrified. He had been running for what seemed like forever. His tail was relentless - no matter where he turned, he saw the pursuer. MDL grew tired of running, so he hid in the trees. He peered through the shrubbery, anxiously awaiting the perpetrator to pass by. Incorrectly figuring his tail had lost him, he spun around to witness the most horrible figure he never hoped to. This was the last sight MDL saw as he was dragged into the forest, never to be heard from again.

Because Slenderman teleports, you would not peer out of the bushes. That would not do you any good, considering you would not see him pass by. Why would you peer out of the bushes? I don't think whatever killed him teleports. I think it could be Muttations from The Hunger Games, considering they have the stamina to chase down someone for a long time, there are multiples of them, so you would see them everywhere you turn, and they were absolutely frightening.

Now, that's just an example. It could obviously be something else of the sort, heck, it might not even be something that there are multiples of, but I don't think it teleports.

 

[Dork Void]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

You guys are both reading way too hard into the flavor. Not everything in this game has to line up perfectly with something else; a game host can and will take artistic licence with their descriptions sometimes. We know that Kecleon-X is an indie with some protection and there is very likely at least one harmful indie in the game. Since I don't see a way to decide which of DNA/PMJ/Shocker is lying and if Kecleon-X has time-based immunity its probably gone by now, the latter is certainly an option for lynching.

 

[Flys Gone 2071]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

I'm tending to see DNA as more suspicious. People shouldn't just vote for PMJ just now because DNA could easily see that Astra would be lynched so he decided to vote first, to try to clear him as town. I'm not saying he actually did but that there is the possibility and town shouldn't jusmp into conclusions straight away.

@ChillBill That role is perfect to make town conflict between us.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

All right. Time to clear things up, complete with proper grammar and everything!

DNA: The fact that Astra was the first wolf to die is irrelevant. What better way to solidify yourself as cleared as to jump on a hugely scummy post made by your teammate before anyone else can? He gets lynched, flips scum, you look clean as a whistle and then proceed to lead the town into their graves as they make mislynch after mislynch, thinking you're on their side. Do you deny this as a possibility?

When I posted that crap about the town losing a valuable asset, my intent was to poke fun at the people who say "don't lynch me bad things will happen!!! you'll regret it!!! for realsies!!!". In a role madness game, all town roles have the potential to be helpful for the town, so meh. I have only one ability, and the best use I can think of it is to validate a person's claim, although I hesitate to say this because it's definitely not foolproof. If you've got nothing to hide, however, I can go a long way in determining the truthfulness of your claim. It just depends on 1) whether or not I survive the night 2) I get role blocked (chances are lower now that Astra is dead - which reminds me, who besides Glace was role blocked? anyone?) or 3) you have a night action.

The reason I said I doubted your claim about being town due to my being town is because if we're to believe that Shocker's list is true, and one of us is scum, then it obviously has to be you.

Of course, there's also the chance that one of us has been framed (as in, the Framer role, which I used in WW14). I have a strong feeling that Porygon-X used my past werewolf games as inspiration for roles; WW14 was a huge game with all sorts of unique roles, which included Framer. It caused a ton of havoc once it was revealed because it basically ruined the seer's inspections. None of it could be trusted. That's why I'm hesitant to just do a full claim and prove I am who I say I am.

I think Kecleon is Slenderman but I may have to explain that one later as I'm out of time (probably).

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

Because Slenderman teleports, you would not peer out of the bushes. That would not do you any good, considering you would not see him pass by. Why would you peer out of the bushes?

Probably because you (as in, the one being chased) don't know that Slenderman can teleport. If you are being chased and you see your pursuer wherever you run, you are probably going to hide wherever you can in an attempt to evade them. Even if you did know they could teleport, I think the illusion of being hidden is better than the knowledge that you're truly exposed.

I take back what I said about Kecleon being Slenderman; I have another lead I want to follow up on.

 

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

ITT Kecleon shows off his nerd heritage

DNA: The fact that Astra was the first wolf to die is irrelevant. What better way to solidify yourself as cleared as to jump on a hugely scummy post made by your teammate before anyone else can? He gets lynched, flips scum, you look clean as a whistle and then proceed to lead the town into their graves as they make mislynch after mislynch, thinking you're on their side. Do you deny this as a possibility?

Yes I do. I've already denied it 3 times, but to satisfy your hard of hearing, I will say it one more time:

I would not sabotage a wolf teammate, no matter what. Only time I'd vote for a wolf teammate is if he were going to die anyway. And I definitely wouldn't start a wagon if the wolves still had all their team. That's just stupid. You honestly think I'd do something detrimental to someone I knew for a surety was one of my own teammates? You're either not paying attention or you're trying to save your hide. At this point I'd wager it's the latter, and for that very reason Flys Gone 2071 has also fallen under my lens of scrutiny, for being the first to stick up for PMJ, for exactly the same reason - casting scrutiny on me.

You guys didn't have a problem with me yesterday; why not now? Oh wait, Flygon did this yesterday too. I obviously can't prove this, but I'm pretty sure both of you are on the wolf team.

When I posted that crap about the town losing a valuable asset, my intent was to poke fun at the people who say "don't lynch me bad things will happen!!! you'll regret it!!! for realsies!!!". In a role madness game, all town roles have the potential to be helpful for the town, so meh.

Okay fine; picky picky.

I have only one ability, and the best use I can think of it is to validate a person's claim, although I hesitate to say this because it's definitely not foolproof.

No reason to believe this. No reason to doubt it either. I believe this to be a neutral statement, at least for now.

If you've got nothing to hide, however, I can go a long way in determining the truthfulness of your claim. It just depends on 1) whether or not I survive the night 2) I get role blocked (chances are lower now that Astra is dead - which reminds me, who besides Glace was role blocked? anyone?) or 3) you have a night action.

Someone alive can apparently mask the roles of killed players, as seen with Batman - though it doesn't mask the alignments.
I do have a night action that I can use every night, but the result is random, most of the time it only affects me (if it chooses to do anything at all), and none of what I can do is lethal.

The reason I said I doubted your claim about being town due to my being town is because if we're to believe that Shocker's list is true, and one of us is scum, then it obviously has to be you.

Because of the same reason that it obviously has to be you too? Though it is possible that we have a framer in our midst...but since P-X has chosen to be rather...simplistic?...with the roles, I doubt this somewhat.

Look, if I was so sure that Shocker was 100% telling the truth, beyond shadow of doubt, I would have voted for you instantly, but I didn't - I want to hear your side of the story first, and I have. I'm still choosing to withhold my vote for the time being, since I still want to give a bit more thought to my vote for the day.

I know that I managed to peg Astra nicely with my bandwagon, but I can't do that forever and my luck is bound to run out, but frankly I've had more of a clear read on who might or might not be a wolf than any other game I've played in so far. Everything else was just a weak 'maybe'.

 

[Luckyfire]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

Hello ya'll! I've been following up on this thread for a while.

...why did I eventually have to replace somebody in both games ;-;

 

[TwistedTurtwig]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

Because people are lazy and sign up for things even though they don't feel like sticking around for them. :c

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

DNA, I believe that for a chance to secure a spot in the town's ranks, youd do it. The gamble is big but the payoff is huge. and it's not so hard to pull off, as I illustrated. Just because you denied it being possible doesnt mean it cant be.

I admit the reason you could be scum works for me. your role sounds like the magic eightball seer I used in ww14 but I doubt this game has three seers. What would you have me do to prove my townness outside of getting myself modkilled? I would very much like to not be lynched today, a sentiment I am sure you feel. the fact that your ability targets someone random will help only if you are told who you hit.

 

[Kecleon-X]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

ITT Kecleon shows off his nerd heritage

Spoiler: You love it

Someone alive can apparently mask the roles of killed players, as seen with Batman - though it doesn't mask the alignments.

This is Batman we're talking about, remember? The guy who hides everything?

 

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

your role sounds like the magic eightball seer I used in ww14 but I doubt this game has three seers.

I said earlier my role only affects myself. I am most certainly not a seer. My role has a random element to it, so what it ends up producing I cannot control.
I cannot really help the town with my role at all, unfortunately.

 

[rev3rsor]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

You honestly think I'd do something detrimental to someone I knew for a surety was one of my own teammates?

I realise that you've denied this a million times, but if there's a scum slip someone would sooner or later pick up on it, and if you're the one to start the wagon then you'd look like town.

You guys didn't have a problem with me yesterday; why not now? Oh wait, Flygon did this yesterday too. I obviously can't prove this, but I'm pretty sure both of you are on the wolf team.

Because now one of you and PMJ are scum, and the town's now trying to find who (resulting in intense scrutiny on each of you).
Also, could you tell us a bit about what your role does? (I was thinking the monk from WW XIV: http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-werewolf-xiv-the-legend-of-canton-falls-town-wins?pid=2354904#pid2354904 , no.30)

Also I found this: go to no. 19.

Hosts: be careful about using the Sensor role - it's ridiculously powerful.

Just something interesting.

 

[Chaos Jackal]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

About Kecleon being the Slenderman, correct me if I'm wrong, but when was the last time that flavor text was of any use? Things always change, of course, but usually the flavor text is just, well, flavor.
I still consider PMJ to be the most likely candidate for the wolf position (assuming that Shocker did tell the truth). However, the fact that DNA said he'd never lynch a wolf partner is weird. DNA is a good player, stunts like that are highly probable, and denying them in this way seems a bit scummy. Can someone tell me where Astra's scummy post is, so I don't have to strain my eyes searching?

 

[rev3rsor]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

It was post #998: http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-game-werewolf-xvii-universe-day-6-ends-september-1st-7pm-est?pid=2509984#pid2509984

 

[rev3rsor]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

This might be a double post (in case post merge) but something I've noticed:

RaichuGirl was more terrified than ever. Running faster than she ever had before still wasn't fast enough to outrun her tail. It was an unfortunately placed branch that caused her to lose her balance and hit the dirt. She knew that this obstacle only hastened her demise as she was dragged into forest, never to be seen again.

MDL was terrified. He had been running for what seemed like forever. His tail was relentless - no matter where he turned, he saw the pursuer. MDL grew tired of running, so he hid in the trees. He peered through the shrubbery, anxiously awaiting the perpetrator to pass by. Incorrectly figuring his tail had lost him, he spun around to witness the most horrible figure he never hoped to. This was the last sight MDL saw as he was dragged into the forest, never to be heard from again.

We have a similar method of kill (pursued by something/someone in a forest), on the 3rd and 5th nights if that means anything to anyone. (Slenderman perhaps?) From reading the posts I don't think MDL or RaichuGirl seemed threatening to the town, so nothing particularly special about that. Does anyone have any ideas?

 

[rev3rsor]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

Sorry about the triple post but just saying I'll be away all of Monday 2/9 and first half of Tuesday 3/9 on school camp.

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

It seems like a lot of this goes in the direction that n number of people think it's PMJ because they trust DNA based on prior experiences. And n number of people think it's DNA because they don't trust him based on prior experiences. Or at least that's how it started.

DNA, I have a hard time believing that you would never vote for a scum buddy unless they were going to die anyway, because it can often secure your safety, especially later in the game.

At this point in the game though, I don't think DNA would turn on a scum buddy that early. With all of them alive on Day 5, I'd assume DNA would probably just being trying to keep them all alive rather than losing one, which often in turn creates a domino effect and you lose many.

So that's why I'm leaning towards a lynch of PMJ and not DNA. The only think is, I don't know if I trust Shocker's claim completely.

 

[DNA]

RE: Werewolf XVII: Universe - Day 6 Ends September 1st 7PM EST!

Also, could you tell us a bit about what your role does? (I was thinking the monk from WW XIV: http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-w...pid2354904 , no.30)

Something like that, but not exactly.
I guess I can be honest with you people.

I declare the use of my role each night, and I get 1 of 4 random effects:
~I am deathproof for that night only
~I give someone else's role a power-up for that night
~My vote is tripled the next day
~Nothing

The "Nothing" has a 50% chance of happening. And, with my weird luck, I've been getting the 'nothing' every night. No wait, on night 3 I got the deathproof one, though no one has made an attempt on my life yet, so it didn't work. I haven't drawn any of the others yet.
My role name? I'm Mario. And I'm super disappointed that I'm not Luigi.