alex i do salute you on your final attempt to persuade the town.
Finished Werewolf XXI: The Members' Revolt. Members win!
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Good game, everyone. :3 I had a lot of fun playing. I always feel like I do a terrible job as scum, and it's hard joining your first community as a wolf (I ought to know; the exact same thing has happened to me elsewhere), but I enjoyed the game nonetheless, and it was interesting to see people's playstyles, and how things differ from where I'm used to playing.
Yeah, you definitely played well alex. For a while I really wasn't sure if you were a wolf or not, but after that last ditch effort I was pretty certain of it.
Good game everyone! It certainly was an interesting one. Can't wait for WW's game to start up.
I was hoping rev's ability would've hit scum, so he could've flexed his four arms all the way to victory, but the best of us must make sacrifices for the greater good, I suppose.
Good game everyone! It certainly was an interesting one. Can't wait for WW's game to start up.
I was hoping rev's ability would've hit scum, so he could've flexed his four arms all the way to victory, but the best of us must make sacrifices for the greater good, I suppose.
I targeted Keeper on nights 1&2. So I technically lied, but it didn't matter because Keeper said I targeted him only on N1 so I knew he was lying and that he was scum. I didn't think the town would not notice that after I die, I definitely would have targeted Keeper on both nights (because I was RBer duh) and that means Keeper was lying...
Why I said I didn't target him instead of saying I targeted him twice was because it was more entertaining for me and because it would be easier for him to come up with an excuse why he knew only of one of my targets so I didn't want to let him off the hook on that.
Why I said I didn't target him instead of saying I targeted him twice was because it was more entertaining for me and because it would be easier for him to come up with an excuse why he knew only of one of my targets so I didn't want to let him off the hook on that.
So I'm guessing alex tracked Cinesra, and that's how you knew he was the SK? It was never explicitly stated, so I figured I might as well ask.
The day after i success in using my Seer ability on KoN i knew KoN was ling about his ability since i got his fake claim . Unfortunately since it is still early i can't risk hinting i'm the seer to the town. I did tried to give a clue that KoN was lying unfortunately no one saw the clue.. Maybe because i was being to subtle
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Graveyard: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/jZThrVXwqHxHg
Scum thread: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/eAb7m2A4zYdS2
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Let's get down to brass tacks. Player analyses are listed in alphabetical order for your probable convenience.
That said, for the three times he got to announce, he did so, and that's all I can ask out of this role.
For the infants here, Holy Star was a super mod who, in like 2007 or 2008 I think it was, used his Admin CP access to delete all the forums. They were eventually restored from a backup. He came back a few years later and was promoted again (lel) but that didn't last long (nothing deleted this time).
If any of you remember that particular incident, I would have expected you all to call Cinesra out on this hokey-ass safe claim the second he posted it. I should have thought that one through more.
The scum pinpointed Cinesra as the serial killer on Night 2 thanks to alex's watcher ability. Keeper outed him on his death and that was pretty much the beginning of the end for Cinesra. Until he died, he reliably submitted a kill every night, so thanks for that. He also made some clutch shots, shooting two out of six scum and bringing the town that much closer to victory. Be thankful, town; Cinesra made your job a hell of a lot easier.
This is the first game in which I used the Admirer role, so it's not surprising to find out that no one here had any idea what it was. Though I will say that I don't understand why people were thinking that the Porygon faction was a cult of some kind when this role made it pretty clear that this was the only backup SK, so to speak.
As you all surely remember, Drohn made the huge mistake of revealing his role PM on Day 1, which ultimately resulted in his lynch. He threw out Keeper of Night's name in an attempt to throw the scent off of Cinesra, his actual partner. This put a target on Keeper when in all honesty it really shouldn't have. Drohn would have been an idiot to sac his partner when he still could have won if Cinesra did. Unlike scum, who can bus their partners to appear town, indie roles like this have no business trying to bus because then they're guaranteed to lose.
After the roles were cut, this was the only vanilla town role left. There were originally like five or six of them, I think. Anyway, grant did all right for the short time he was in. He was convinced Athena was scum right out of the gate, but no one was willing to listen to him so early. Unfortunately someone has to die night 1 and fortunately for the town it was the lone VT, ensuring the power roles were safe for another night.
In reality, people should have dismissed Drohn's reveal of Keeper as the SK as soon as he was confirmed to be third-party. Alas, I can't jump in and slap the town with the hammer of logic while I'm the mod, so I had to sit back and watch this fiasco unfold.
Made a good effort in leading once rev3rsor shot him and confirmed him as town, but not much until then. He was sure alex was scum until he posted his safe claim. Then he wasn't so sure. Then by process of elimination, he figured that alex was the last scum, but had a surprisingly hard time convincing the town of it. Eventually Drac came to his aid and alex was finally lynched, ending the game.
And, just for funsies, here are all the roles that didn't make it into the game (most are vanilla):
Closing Notes
I'd like to thank all of you who played this game and all of my previous games. I arguably have more fun hosting than playing, because at least then I get to see the game through to the end.
If you guys haven't figured it out already, I will no longer be running PokeBeach Werewolf. Those responsibilities now fall upon Athena and the rest of the Forum Games moderation team. I don't know if I'll get the chance to host another game here, but I plan on remaining an avid player. And to those of you who are looking to host, I am definitely open to co-hosting if you would like to utilize my expertise and/or assistance.
Please continue to show Athena and the forum staff the same respect and excitement for this game as you have shown me.
Thanks again, everypony. Until Werewolf XXII!
Scum thread: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/eAb7m2A4zYdS2
Setup:
Camoclone (sillykyle) - Town Announcer
Drohn (Kronar/Kronar) - Independent Admirer
TheGuy (Athena/Eagle4) - Mafia Paparazzi/Associate
Cinesra (Porygon/Holy Star) - Independent Serial Killer
Haunted Water (Kecleon-X) - Town Mason
Teal (Crystal Hikara) - Town Roleblocker
Porygon-X (DNA) - Town Ghoul
grantm1999 (Scorched Feathers) - Town Vanilla
GM DracLord (TwistedTurtwig) - Town Role Cop (50% success rate)
Keeper of Night (Drohn/Eron) - Mafia Interceptor/Doublevoter
Machamp The Champion (One Approved) - Town Sheriff
Athena (Uralya/grantm1999) - Mafia Strongman/Roleblocker
Celever (DocRobot_K-176) - Town Doctor
Scorched Feathers (Blui) - Town Bomb
alex (omahanime/Reggie McGigas) - Mafia Bulletproof Tracker/Watcher (During Day only)
sillykyle (Porygon-X) Town Mason
Cobalt Phoenix (Meaty) - Town Bleeder
rev3rsor (Machamp The Champion) - Town Desperado
WanderingWolf (Ice Arceus/bacon) - Mafia Goon
SMP (Chaos Jackal) - Town Governor
Kecleon-X (PG24/CMP) - Mafia Janitor
Jeremy1026 (corn bread) - Town Deathproof Vanilla (During Day only)
Drohn (Kronar/Kronar) - Independent Admirer
TheGuy (Athena/Eagle4) - Mafia Paparazzi/Associate
Cinesra (Porygon/Holy Star) - Independent Serial Killer
Haunted Water (Kecleon-X) - Town Mason
Teal (Crystal Hikara) - Town Roleblocker
Porygon-X (DNA) - Town Ghoul
grantm1999 (Scorched Feathers) - Town Vanilla
GM DracLord (TwistedTurtwig) - Town Role Cop (50% success rate)
Keeper of Night (Drohn/Eron) - Mafia Interceptor/Doublevoter
Machamp The Champion (One Approved) - Town Sheriff
Athena (Uralya/grantm1999) - Mafia Strongman/Roleblocker
Celever (DocRobot_K-176) - Town Doctor
Scorched Feathers (Blui) - Town Bomb
alex (omahanime/Reggie McGigas) - Mafia Bulletproof Tracker/Watcher (During Day only)
sillykyle (Porygon-X) Town Mason
Cobalt Phoenix (Meaty) - Town Bleeder
rev3rsor (Machamp The Champion) - Town Desperado
WanderingWolf (Ice Arceus/bacon) - Mafia Goon
SMP (Chaos Jackal) - Town Governor
Kecleon-X (PG24/CMP) - Mafia Janitor
Jeremy1026 (corn bread) - Town Deathproof Vanilla (During Day only)
Let's get down to brass tacks. Player analyses are listed in alphabetical order for your probable convenience.
A candidate for scum MVP, alex stayed completely under the radar the entire game and had Celever protecting him for half of it. Once he posted his role, he had Scorched Feathers convinced he was town; if there hadn't been so many clears at the end, he might have been able to pull it off. In the end, however, the town finally wised up and thus ended the scum's chance at victory.
Athena... didn't get to do much. She said something that made grant mark her as scum on the very first day, and that's pretty much it. Cinesra dropped her on Night 3 and that was the end of her.
Not surprisingly, Camoclone died fairly early. He had a plan going with his seer claim before I revealed that all seers would get safe claims. Soz bro :>
That said, for the three times he got to announce, he did so, and that's all I can ask out of this role.
In a rare event for PokeBeach Werewolf, the doctor lived until the late game. Fun fact: Celever protected scum every single night except for Night 3 (when he didn't submit) and Night 6 (when he protected himself). Speaking of, A+ play by Celever when he tricked the scum into thinking he couldn't self-protect and wasting a night. He brought the town back from certain death in a single night. A definite candidate for town MVP.
Jesus, this role. If Cinesra had ever had to post his role PM he would have been lynched in a New York minute because Holy Star is definitely not a safe-sounding claim.
For the infants here, Holy Star was a super mod who, in like 2007 or 2008 I think it was, used his Admin CP access to delete all the forums. They were eventually restored from a backup. He came back a few years later and was promoted again (lel) but that didn't last long (nothing deleted this time).
If any of you remember that particular incident, I would have expected you all to call Cinesra out on this hokey-ass safe claim the second he posted it. I should have thought that one through more.
The scum pinpointed Cinesra as the serial killer on Night 2 thanks to alex's watcher ability. Keeper outed him on his death and that was pretty much the beginning of the end for Cinesra. Until he died, he reliably submitted a kill every night, so thanks for that. He also made some clutch shots, shooting two out of six scum and bringing the town that much closer to victory. Be thankful, town; Cinesra made your job a hell of a lot easier.
Oh Drohn.
This is the first game in which I used the Admirer role, so it's not surprising to find out that no one here had any idea what it was. Though I will say that I don't understand why people were thinking that the Porygon faction was a cult of some kind when this role made it pretty clear that this was the only backup SK, so to speak.
As you all surely remember, Drohn made the huge mistake of revealing his role PM on Day 1, which ultimately resulted in his lynch. He threw out Keeper of Night's name in an attempt to throw the scent off of Cinesra, his actual partner. This put a target on Keeper when in all honesty it really shouldn't have. Drohn would have been an idiot to sac his partner when he still could have won if Cinesra did. Unlike scum, who can bus their partners to appear town, indie roles like this have no business trying to bus because then they're guaranteed to lose.
I wish I had remembered that TwistedTurtwig is always scum, because then I would have used him for a safe claim instead. Thankfully that didn't get Drac lynched. Drac did good, keeping quiet about his powers until it didn't really matter anymore. In hindsight, I should not have had the 50% restriction considering that I specifically mentioned that seers could not see through safe claims (TheGuy should have been lynched immediately when he claimed to be able to).
After the roles were cut, this was the only vanilla town role left. There were originally like five or six of them, I think. Anyway, grant did all right for the short time he was in. He was convinced Athena was scum right out of the gate, but no one was willing to listen to him so early. Unfortunately someone has to die night 1 and fortunately for the town it was the lone VT, ensuring the power roles were safe for another night.
formerly played by Professor Palutena
Did literally nothing because Porygon-X redirected the scum's nk to him the same day he joined. Not like it mattered because Professor Palutena didn't do anything either. I don't know if either of them used their mason powers.
A new face to PokeBeach Werewolf, Jeremy didn't really disappoint. He posted regularly and even led a lynch before Cinesra shot him dead. Too bad.
Skated by the entire game. On several days he made only the bare minimum effort to avoid the axe, and never used his janitor ability. If you notice that you aren't being as active as you, I, or anyone else would have liked, then sub out.
Keeper probably would have lived longer, but he was outed as the serial killer by Drohn, who pulled Keeper's name out of his ass, so lucky break for the town there. His time in the realm of the living was plagued with mistakes. First, he posted an edited safe claim without consulting his teammates, resulting in a sloppy-looking PM that should have been outed as fake instantly due to the name he gave his fake ability (HINTZ). If the flavor of the role is that stupid doge meme, then it would have been more believable to keep within the flavor and give it a name like "very watch" or something doge-like. Other than that, he was too eager to push Reinforce's lynch. Keeper's head was on the chopping block and he was getting desperate to get off it (in fact, everyone who was pushing Reinforce's weak lynch should have been heavily looked at).
In reality, people should have dismissed Drohn's reveal of Keeper as the SK as soon as he was confirmed to be third-party. Alas, I can't jump in and slap the town with the hammer of logic while I'm the mod, so I had to sit back and watch this fiasco unfold.
Came close to getting modkilled a couple times. Was revealed as vig when he shot Cinesra after his protection was taken out by the scum and mystically survived until the end of the game.
formerly played by Cobalt Phoenix
Thumbs down to Cobalt Phoenix, who revealed his role and then asked to be subbed out - but not before people accused him of being scum. When Reinforce took over and confirmed Cobalt Phoenix was telling the truth about his role, the town didn't buy it and he was lynched the day he subbed in. Sorry, man. Note to future hosts: Sometimes it's better to modkill than sub in certain cases.
This role is called Desperado. It's sort of like Vigilante except with the ability to soft clear another player in the event you guess wrong (you could still kill yourself if you hit an indie role, though I'm not sure that's the intent of this role). rev3rsor managed to stay off the scum's hit list until he was convinced to flex Scorched Feathers. Once he did, SF was cleaned and in position to lead for the rest of the game.
I don't know if he ever masoned it up with either of his two partners. Anyway, not much to say about him; he was active and did his part until his death.
He was targeted by the scum early on, resulting in a quick death for Haunted Water. He was confirmed as town from then point on and survived to the end of the game when he really should have been killed ASAP to deny the town a clear. He was fairly active, for his part, and for that I thank him.
Made a good effort in leading once rev3rsor shot him and confirmed him as town, but not much until then. He was sure alex was scum until he posted his safe claim. Then he wasn't so sure. Then by process of elimination, he figured that alex was the last scum, but had a surprisingly hard time convincing the town of it. Eventually Drac came to his aid and alex was finally lynched, ending the game.
formerly played by SMP
As for the role itself, I don't know if Starboard Driger would have used it since he wasn't subbed in until fairly late in the game and almost everyone was cleared.
I incorrectly modkilled Starboard Driger because I didn't think he made the posting requirements. As I found out after the fact, he made exactly one post. I didn't see it until after I had killed him. I apologize again for this.
As for the role itself, I don't know if Starboard Driger would have used it since he wasn't subbed in until fairly late in the game and almost everyone was cleared.
Very pro-town for the duration he was in, called for Kecleon-X to get shot way back on Day 2, did quite a bit of commentary in the graveyard. All in all good solid play.
He was a very staunch supporter of Keeper of Night's lynch. I didn't like how he made it very clear that he always had that position every time he posted something about Keeper. Like, okay, we get it, you suspected him and he flipped scum. We got the point the first time you said it. He had a plan to frame GM DracLord in the late game but at that point he was already pegged as scum and promptly lynched in what may very well be the fastest game day in werewolf history.
After the usual song and dance with Camoclone on Day 1, WW was a helpful and active member of the town... right up until Cinesra shot him and he went kersplooie.
And, just for funsies, here are all the roles that didn't make it into the game (most are vanilla):
Role: Camoclone
Alignment: Members
You are Camoclone, a TCG moderator. You have a strong sense of direction for the forums and wish your superiors would see the light.
However, because you're new, you don't want to ruffle too many feathers, and so you choose to participate with only your vote.
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Alignment: Members
You are Camoclone, a TCG moderator. You have a strong sense of direction for the forums and wish your superiors would see the light.
However, because you're new, you don't want to ruffle too many feathers, and so you choose to participate with only your vote.
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Role: Luckyfire
Alignment: Members
You are Luckyfire, a member of PokeBeach Forums.
You have no abilities other than your vote. Not that it would matter if you did, because you would never make use of them anyway.
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Alignment: Members
You are Luckyfire, a member of PokeBeach Forums.
You have no abilities other than your vote. Not that it would matter if you did, because you would never make use of them anyway.
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Role: Nekoban Ryo
Alignment: Members
You are Nekoban Ryo, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You heard WPM had something against Dunsparce, which you find unacceptable. Time to overthrow the government!...
...Which is exactly what you would do if you weren't so lazy. All you can be bothered to do is vote, so get out there and vote, I guess...
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Alignment: Members
You are Nekoban Ryo, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You heard WPM had something against Dunsparce, which you find unacceptable. Time to overthrow the government!...
...Which is exactly what you would do if you weren't so lazy. All you can be bothered to do is vote, so get out there and vote, I guess...
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Role: Teal
Alignment: Members
You are Teal, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You heard that WPM insulted the hoori turiniti, and so now you will have the entire mod team face your wrath.
Passive Effect: Sweet Dreams
At the start of each day (excluding day 1), you will receive a list of five players that you dreamt about last night. At least one player on this list will be scum. It is possible that multiple players on this list will be scum. You will not dream, however, if you were targeted by any action during the previous night.
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Alignment: Members
You are Teal, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You heard that WPM insulted the hoori turiniti, and so now you will have the entire mod team face your wrath.
Passive Effect: Sweet Dreams
At the start of each day (excluding day 1), you will receive a list of five players that you dreamt about last night. At least one player on this list will be scum. It is possible that multiple players on this list will be scum. You will not dream, however, if you were targeted by any action during the previous night.
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Role: PsychedelicBreakfast
Alignment: Members
You are PsychedelicBreakfast, a new moderator. You heard a rumor that WPM said Beast Wars Transformers was for sissy nancy-boy losers, and that makes you upset.
But you've only recently been hired, so you're too afraid to do anything other than vote.
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Alignment: Members
You are PsychedelicBreakfast, a new moderator. You heard a rumor that WPM said Beast Wars Transformers was for sissy nancy-boy losers, and that makes you upset.
But you've only recently been hired, so you're too afraid to do anything other than vote.
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Role: Blob55
Alignment: Members
You are Blob55, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You agree that the super mods should all die in a fire, but you're so in love that you don't know what you'd do if you lost your precious...
Passive Effect: Back Door Lover
Your life is linked with Drohn's. If he dies, so will you. At the start of every day, you will receive the name of a randomly selected player who is not Drohn.
Win Condition: Live to see Day 7
No one noticed that Keeper of Night's role mentioned falling for one of the enemy, did they? That's because he was originally lovers with this role, and when I took this role out at the last minute, I forgot to take that part out of Keeper's role PM. I had a hard time trying to figure out how to balance a town/scum lovers pair and in the end decided it wasn't worth the trouble. (Fun fact: Keeper's lover safe claim passive effect was named "such love".)
Alignment: Members
You are Blob55, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You agree that the super mods should all die in a fire, but you're so in love that you don't know what you'd do if you lost your precious...
Passive Effect: Back Door Lover
Your life is linked with Drohn's. If he dies, so will you. At the start of every day, you will receive the name of a randomly selected player who is not Drohn.
Win Condition: Live to see Day 7
No one noticed that Keeper of Night's role mentioned falling for one of the enemy, did they? That's because he was originally lovers with this role, and when I took this role out at the last minute, I forgot to take that part out of Keeper's role PM. I had a hard time trying to figure out how to balance a town/scum lovers pair and in the end decided it wasn't worth the trouble. (Fun fact: Keeper's lover safe claim passive effect was named "such love".)
Role: RaichuGirl
Alignment: Members
You are RaichuGirl, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You decided WPM still had to go down when you heard he had more Raichu Prime than you.
Because I feel like trolling Teal and having even more vanilla townies, you have no abilities other than your vote. Good luck!
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
This was originally WanderingWolf's safe claim until I realized he needed a role with a night action for whenever he performed the kill. Of course, there was no town watcher so there wasn't ever a reason for me to actually switch. Oops!
Alignment: Members
You are RaichuGirl, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You decided WPM still had to go down when you heard he had more Raichu Prime than you.
Because I feel like trolling Teal and having even more vanilla townies, you have no abilities other than your vote. Good luck!
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
This was originally WanderingWolf's safe claim until I realized he needed a role with a night action for whenever he performed the kill. Of course, there was no town watcher so there wasn't ever a reason for me to actually switch. Oops!
Role: Keeper of Night
Alignment: Members
You are Keeper of Night, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You asked to be in the game after hearing a rumor that WPM detests Umbreon.
Passive Effect: Spirit Crusher
If you are killed at night, you will remove all abilities of whoever kills you. If you are lynched, you will remove all abilities of whoever hammers you (other than you).
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Keeper asked me to make him a role, so I did. Then I cut him. lol whoops sorry bud
Alignment: Members
You are Keeper of Night, a member of PokeBeach Forums. You asked to be in the game after hearing a rumor that WPM detests Umbreon.
Passive Effect: Spirit Crusher
If you are killed at night, you will remove all abilities of whoever kills you. If you are lynched, you will remove all abilities of whoever hammers you (other than you).
Win Condition: All non-Members eliminated
Keeper asked me to make him a role, so I did. Then I cut him. lol whoops sorry bud
Closing Notes
I'd like to thank all of you who played this game and all of my previous games. I arguably have more fun hosting than playing, because at least then I get to see the game through to the end.
If you guys haven't figured it out already, I will no longer be running PokeBeach Werewolf. Those responsibilities now fall upon Athena and the rest of the Forum Games moderation team. I don't know if I'll get the chance to host another game here, but I plan on remaining an avid player. And to those of you who are looking to host, I am definitely open to co-hosting if you would like to utilize my expertise and/or assistance.
Please continue to show Athena and the forum staff the same respect and excitement for this game as you have shown me.
Thanks again, everypony. Until Werewolf XXII!
Wat? There was a graveyard? Why didn't I get a PM about it... :/
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