RE: Werewolf XXII: The Reign of Terror - Day 7 Ends September 12th
Everyone already has elaborated on why Professor Palutena and Porygon-X are suspected of lying and prime candidates for lynch. But I think we shouldn't be quick to count TwistedTurtwig out.
I know, I know. He claimed priest and nearly everybody has posted and nobody counterclaimed him so it's almost a sure scenario that he's telling the truth.
But I have seen and would like to point out some contradictions on Herr Twisted's testimony... His claim.
Abbé Claud Dutronc [TwistedTurtwig]
A priest operating out of a church for the impoverished, the funds for your parishioners have been withheld by the upper members of the Catholic hierarchy. Still you follow the Catholic ideal and work to make your church a place of shelter for those who need it.
Passive Effect: Role Tithing
You have a 20% chance of collecting the role of any player that targets you at night.
Ability: Priestly Protection
One per night you may PM me the name of a player. That player will be unaffected from incoming roles however will not be able to use his own either.
Win Condition: Town Wins
This is his role PM that he posted.
Now, for his target protection list:
TwistedTurtwig said:
N0 - Drohn (notified that it failed)
N1 - alex
N2 - Chaos Jackal (notified that it failed)
N3 - Machamp the Champion
N4 - Chaos Jackal
N5 - Wailord_2
N6 - Was sent an item that roleblocked me for a night, so didn't bother to
Let me elaborate on my case:
1)
N4=Chaos Jackal
I find this odd, because of what happened during said night. This:
TheGuy said:
Keeper of Night stood in the living room of his home scared to death. He didn't want to die. His head turned to his right, the front door, then to his left, the back door. All of the sudden the front door opened, Keeper made a break for the back door, but it opened too! Keeper was surrounded! Keeper began to say his final prayers when all of the sudden he lit up! The bright light scared the two killers who bolted away and out the door.
We logically assumed that Keeper of Night had been targeted for kill by both Royalist and Invader. But neither kill went through. So what's the explanation?
We can rule out KoN being deathproof as his role was just revealed earlier. It couldn't have been rev3rsor because if it was him, he would have found out and revealed who targeted KoN, like how he found out grantm1999 was the Royalist who tried to kill Lenny. It couldn't have been Cinesra the role blocker either, because he could have only roleblocked one, and the other killer would have succeeded then.
So we're left with one plausible explanation: KoN was protected by the priest. It nicely explains why BOTH kills were blocked.
HOWEVER... If you, the priest, really did target Chaos Jackal instead that night, then how did KoN survive and what saved him?
2)
N3=Machamp the Champion
N4=Chaos Jackal
N5=Wailord_2
The contradiction this time... lies in his Priestly Protection ability.
Ability: Priestly Protection
One per night you may PM me the name of a player.
That player will be unaffected from incoming roles however will not be able to use his own either.
See the bolded part? If this was indeed true, then:
a) MtC should have been unable to use his role/ability to submit a lynch suggestion for the newspaper on Night 3 for Day 4's lynch. But there was no mention of this.
b) Chaos Jackal shouldn't have been able to find out the name of alex's ability. Recall that he can only use it on even-numbered nights. He revealed on Day 5, so it can be assumed he used it on Night 4. But he's supposedly roleblocked by TT here, so how? Unless Chaos Jackal lied about being able to only use his Ability on even-numbered nights, but that would mean he's in cahoots with alex and/or Porygon-X in order to have found out and confirmed their abilities. But I find this unlikely if we are correct with the number of remaining Royalist and Invader.
c) Wailord_2 joining the newspaper group was revealed by KoN on Day 6 and wasn't mentioned before. It can be assumed he PMed to join them on Night 5... A night he is supposed to be roleblocked by TT.
Of course this is highly dependent on the assumption that they used their Abilities on those specific nights, but wouldn't you agree it is a contradiction in those cases?
3)
N6=Was sent an item that roleblocked me for a night, so didn't bother to
A minor one, but last night, there was only one victim, Wailord_2. Assuming we still have at least one Royalist and one Invader around, we should have expected two. If TT was one of the killers, then him being role blocked could be a possible explanation as to why it's like that. Furthermore, a priest having been role blocked meant there should have been a higher chance that there would be two victims since no one would be protected. Yet, only Wailord died.
What's more, read the update at the start of the day and compare it to the previous ones. Only one killing instance/mention was shown. If both factions submitted a kill but one was blocked (resulting in only one victim like with Wailord today), then it would have likely been written out in the flavor. Look at Night 2: grant was roleblocked by rev3rsor when he tried to kill Lenny, while the Invaders successfully killed PMJ. Even if grant failed, it was still mentioned. But look at today's update: It's almost as if one of the killer factions didn't do anything... or didn't try to submit a kill, perhaps?
--end
Yes, I am aware that TT should be near-confirmed because no one counterclaimed him. And honestly, I would have, and want to, because nobody wants a known priest to be lynched and/or die. But these contradictions are making me hesitate. Catching someone lying doesn't automatically mean they're guilty, but they sure make you doubt their credibility, and wonder if they are and have told the entire truth. So what do you have to say, Herr Twisted?
Regarding KoN's untimely demise, I highly doubt it's Porygon-X's doing. It was obvious they were at odds, so logically, why would Porygon-X do something that'll only make him more suspicious? If anything, I think he's being framed here. Though, this could be WIFOM...
So, is it Professor Palutena's doing then? Lenny explained it really well and it's completely logical and plausible. But... Does no one else think this is...
too convenient?
It's a gut feeling, but I think this is
too obvious that it loops around to suspicious. KoN's daykill was sure to be shocking, and we would immediately try to find an explanation. And that suspicious, troll-ish post of PP's is standing out like a luminescent beacon in the dark sea that is the serious discussion posts of everyone else. It's like an anglerfish lure: So bright and obvious as it's trying to direct all our attention to it... and away from something else.
I'm not saying that PP could not be responsible for KoN's kill. In fact, he likely is, as it's reminiscent of how rev3rsor's role activated in The Members' Revolt. However, I think that isn't all there is to it. I feel like there's something more here. Something hidden... and it probably isn't good.
I daresay we shouldn't be completely confident yet.
As for lynch... I might have looked like I dragged the suspicion spotlight on TT, but I'm not counting out the possibility that he truly is the priest so I'm also in favor of going after PP and Porygon-X first because the consequences of them being a wrong lynch are less severe.
