Finished Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [AND THE WINNERS ARE...]

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RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Squirtle Squad said:
Are you certain ice Espeon is 100% confirmed town??? I mean sure he's joined your chat but we are in that same predicament with the dodgy wording.. (Even though all SoJ were in fact town)! They don't know each other's alignments...
Plus! IEs wording talks about insecurity etc.. Could be potentially scummy?

Also Ninja Eron is ability-less even without the Assault Vest.. He's vanilla!
*shakes fist* If eron said he did = scum. Shouldn't said anything. All well.
Did anyone get the vest?


PMJ said:
Terrakion died, he was confirmed town, and ice espeon took his role. bbninjas confirmed it so IE is town. The difference between is IE and MTC is that with MTC we had no proof he was town. With IE, we do since the role he stole from the graveyard was a town role.

We had this (snipped) convo in the council:

bbninjas said:
Was it possible for you to transform into scum?
Ice Espeon said:
I could only copy abilities and not win conditions.

I'm going for Reinforce ATM, until I can find a better lead:
##VOTE: Reinforce
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Squirtle Squad said:
PMJ said:
Eron is Munna (paradise etc). Also I changed my mind. Squirtle Squad is back on the list of suspects. I completely forgot. We have no confirmation that he's telling the truth because Teapot was janned and we don't know his role (which could have been Sableye for all we know).

<Keeper> hey squirtle squad go claim sableye
<squirtle squad> okay boss

I'd be keen to a SS lynch.

Cool theory... But honestly if you do kill me for whatever reason, nothing will change! I die physically but I can stay in the game and talk and use my one vote that im still holding onto! Haha! So itd be a waste of lynch, just saying!

So in other words you become confirmed town and also immune to everything. That's not OP at all.

Also, janned roles are typically given out to the scum team so it's still entirely possible you could be scum.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

So he couldn't copy win conditions, still could be scum... His new role post could have easily been modified to hide it..
Anyway! I'll let it go and hold onto it for later if we need it!

Agreed Bb, I think reinforce is the more likely of the two, that said, wailord doesn't post much at all so it's hard to know!
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Sableye
Alignment: Town
You like diamonds so much that you want to find and eat them even if you are killed. Wait, what? Well, good thing you are a ghost.

Ability: Zombie
You may not vote. (If you do, you will be modkilled and entirely removed from the game.) You may keep talking even once you are killed.

Mega Evolution:
Once during the game on a day (while you are dead or alive), you may PM me to mega evolve. During that day, you may vote normally.

Here is my role again, I posted this a while ago I think...
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Quoting the role doesn't matter because you could have easily stolen it from One Approved.

The only way to prove you are who you say you are is get modkilled or die.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Eron said:
ugh....a link? It's 3AM... I will just post again my ability.

Ability: Dream
Each night you will receive the Pokémon species of a random town-aligned player.


List of confirmed people:

Alexander
TT but he's ded
bbninjas
CrimsonFlame (Is HE Lucario?)
rev3rsor
Squirtle Squad

iirc these are the people that are confirmed town.

I do hope this is considered...
At this rate, either myself or SS is going to be killed tonight.


If you guys are going to look into Eron, here is his role:

Munna
Alignment: Town
You often dream of sweet paradise… you wish you could escape there! You even met your future husband in a dream. Unfortunately you haven’t met him in real life yet. But you know: Dreams come true!

Ability: Dream
Each night you will receive the Pokémon species of a random town-aligned player.

Ability: Sweet Paradise
You can not be resurrected.

I just feel like pressuring the two again:

@@PRESSURE: Reinforce, Wailord_2
Claim your role. Now.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

I can't do anything about the wording of my role, Squirtle Squad ;-;

bbninjas, what night did you pass the life orb to rev3rsor?
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Ice Espeon said:
I can't do anything about the wording of my role, Squirtle Squad ;-;

bbninjas, what night did you pass the life orb to rev3rsor?

Yep. *thinks "Didn't you read the QT"*
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

PMJ said:
Quoting the role doesn't matter because you could have easily stolen it from One Approved.

The only way to prove you are who you say you are is get modkilled or die.

Ok fine, new theory! (Although slightly unethical

We all vote me off asap (right now!!!!)
I die: we end the Debate over my alignment
And the players who were required to post 6 times all get modkilled and more than likely one of them is scum...
But yeah I'm just putting this out there... It's really unethical but it would work...

Otherwise im gonna stick with reinforce..
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Squirtle Squad said:
PMJ said:
Quoting the role doesn't matter because you could have easily stolen it from One Approved.

The only way to prove you are who you say you are is get modkilled or die.

Ok fine, new theory! (Although slightly unethical

We all vote me off asap (right now!!!!)
I die: we end the Debate over my alignment
And the players who were required to post 6 times all get modkilled and more than likely one of them is scum...
But yeah I'm just putting this out there... It's really unethical but it would work...

Otherwise im gonna stick with reinforce..

I think we should just stick with reinforce.
Also, another possibility is that we kill bigfoot just in case, then bigfoot kills one of the remaining suspects but...
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

bbninjas said:
Ice Espeon said:
I can't do anything about the wording of my role, Squirtle Squad ;-;

bbninjas, what night did you pass the life orb to rev3rsor?

Yep. *thinks "Didn't you read the QT"*

Yeah, just wanted to check :p

Anyway nvm it was N2.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Haha Bb not that again!!

But yes my theory was radical and would involve a mass exodus of players... (Although effective and would kill off heaps of suspects :p if they were all town though it would suck... Haha!!!)

No I don't think its Bigfoot. Is ability isn't scummy..
I'm definitely thinking reinforce..
And if Dusknoir is still performing the kills then the last scum doesn't even need to be active!
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Squirtle Squad said:
Haha Bb not that again!!

But yes my theory was radical and would involve a mass exodus of players... (Although effective and would kill off heaps of suspects :p if they were all town though it would suck... Haha!!!)

No I don't think its Bigfoot. Is ability isn't scummy..
I'm definitely thinking reinforce..
And if Dusknoir is still performing the kills then the last scum doesn't even need to be active!

Whats that supposed to mean? Reinforce is fairly active - although wailord_2 is not.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Im just stating whats already confirmed :p haha!!!
It was more confirming my own thoughts in my head just needed to write it down!

I was thinking: how could scum be killing people and inactive at the same time (which ruled out all the inactive people) but then i remembered Dusknoir (keeper) is still doing the kills right??
Meaning scum could be an inactive person!

Nevermind.. Haha!!!
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

I'd prefer to wait for PMJ's role to flip before lynching anyone, but a no lynch isn't possible >_>

I think going after inactives is a good idea today; we don't wanna get rid of anyone contributing to town while we wait for PMJ to flip.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Reinforce said:
Oh, man, now the seeming finality of my previous post is ruined >_<

A little surprised that Chaos Jackal claimed after my previous post, but well, I guess it's just the timing. So... What I'm concerned of in his claim:

1) what you might say the "tone" of the description of CJ's claim. It goes from being all happy and calm which is befitting a Swablu to suddenly being aggressive with "wanting them out of the place". This is something more instinctive than actual solid proof though, it's just one of those feelings.

2) Ability: Charming Voice
You will be notified if scum targets you.

That's from CJ's claim. What I find strange about it is... the use of the word "scum" to refer to the, well, actual scum in this game. It's not wrong, per se. It's just that, you see... after checking the other roles that's been revealed so far, putting CJ's claim next to grant's role shows a noticeable difference: grant's role explicitly refers to the scum faction as "Anti Arceus-aligned players" and never "scum", like so:

Ability: Expelled from Paradise
Unlike the other Anti-Arceus-aligned players you don’t know who your teammates are, and you don’t have access to the Anti-Arceus team-quicktopic either. They don’t know who you are either, but they know your whole role PM, so…!

Ability: Searching for my…
Use: once every night
You may PM me a list of 5 players. You will be told who on that list has the same alignment as you. Once you have found all Anti-Arceus-aligned players, you will get access to the team-quicktopic.


If there were to be a uniform format, then CJ's claim/role should have stated: "You will be notified if an Anti-Arceus aligned player targets you."

Assuming, of course, that this isn't one of those inconsistencies that Teal has spoken about.

This makes me think that reinforce may not be scum. If he was, I would assume he would post this in the scum QT not in the outside thread.

##UNVOTE: Reinforce

Bigfoot is right - I think we should go after inactives... or ##VOTE: Wailord_2 in particular.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Eron said:
snipsnipsnip

Ability: Dream
Each night you will receive the Pokémon species of a random town-aligned player.

N1: Sableye
N2: Slowking
N3: Delibird
N4: Grumpig
N5: Lucario

snipsnipsnip

^The order with which Eron got the names. Interesting that Sableye was the only one to not have been confirmed in the thread before he recieved the result.

To see if this could be possible if Eron was scum, I've looked through the roles of the other scum:

Chaos Jackal has an 'Unhidden Ability':

Swablu [Chaos Jackal]
Alignment: Anti-Arceus
You are Pathos the Swablu, manager of Stage Town’s favourite celebrity, Pikachu! Just like her, you like to talk a lot, too.

Seeing the luxurious life that Pikachu and other celebrities have been living has made you so jealous that when you heard of the “Cult of Arceus” that wants to create a new Paradise, you decided to join them to get a taste of luxury, too!

Ability: Tweet
Use: once every night
You may PM me a player name and a message of maximal 140 characters. I will PM that player in the following format (it is not in quotes):


Ability: PR Management
Use: once every night, including night 0
You must PM me a headline and an article. These will be published in the upcoming public night update.

Unhidden Ability: Malicious Management
If the player of Pikachu publically reveals their role through their ability, you will gain control of their vote for the rest of the game and this ability becomes unhidden:
Once during the day you may choose to PM me the name of a player. Pikachu’s player’s vote will be placed on that player regardless of what they vote (your choice comes up in the vote count).

Then I saw :

Goodra [Scorched Feathers]
Alignment: Anti-Arceus
You are the friendly neighbourhood dragon who is always smiling. Everyone loves you! That is kind of problematic, though, because when people touch you, they get slimy…

Because you love everyone too, you want to make everyone happy! And what’s a better way to make everyone happy than to turn earth into Paradise? That’s what that ghost guy told you, at least!

Ability: Gooey
Anyone who targets you gets slimy. The public night update mentions any slimy person.

Ability: Gootrap
Use: once per game at day
You may PM me to activate this ability. From that very point on, no player can unvote during that day anymore.

Hidden Ability: <hidden>

Is it possible that SF had an ability that gave him the names of town Pokémon? After all, Goodra was 'the friendly neighbourhood dragon' who was loved by everyone, so maybe he knew them by person? Note these are different to secret abilities (as seen in Drohn's role):
Cobalion [Drohn]
Alignment: Town
You are one of the swordsmen of justice. But what exactly is justice, and what is justified?

Ability: Council of the Swordsmen
You may share your thoughts on the game with the players of Terrakion and Virizion in a separately sent quicktopic. (You do not know the alignments of those players.)

Secret Ability: ?


Finally, there is something grammatical in Eron's role that bugs me:

Eron said:
Munna
Alignment: Town
You often dream of sweet paradise… you wish you could escape there! You even met your future husband in a dream. Unfortunately you haven’t met him in real life yet. But you know: Dreams come true!

Ability: Dream
Each night you will receive the Pokémon species of a random town-aligned player.

Ability: Sweet Paradise
You can not be resurrected.

That really doesn't seem right ;-;
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

That certainly is suspicious...
Erons votes:

Eron (5)- Jeremy1026 | N/A | N/A | Meaty | N/A | Meaty | Machamp the Champion | PMJ


Maybe we should kill Eron, who is vanilla either-way, while we wait for PMJ's results. If we do it quickly, we could possible get other scum, who possibly could be in the inactive list.
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

Good thinking - we can end it quickly before the 6 post thing to wipe out the rest of the suspects.

##VOTE: Eron
 
RE: Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [Day 9: ends Thursday 13th]

##UNVOTE Wailord_2
##VOTE Eron
 
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