Finished Werewolf XXIII: A Sacrifice for Anti-Arceus [AND THE WINNERS ARE...]

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1. Camoclone - Pretty towny. My vote makes legitimate sense given my reaction; I've already stated that I am scummy every game, but I got given an awful role on top of that. So far he's just contributes, and his claim obviously makes sense.
2. Ice Espeon - Hasn't really contributed. So far he has literally just answered questions, none of which directed at him. This could be either town or scum, but leaning town
3. Mr.Muffin - Hasn't said anything, despite putting his activity as a 3.5. If you said a high(ish) number but are yet to post I am going to label you as CONTRIBUTE MORE!
4. Scorched Feathers - Was very active during RVS, but activity dropped harshly thereafter. Furthermore, his only serious vote was a serious bandwagon against me with a joke as reasoning. A little worse than regular SF, so I'm going slight scum on this.
5. Keeper of Night - Pretty town. He has pushed my lynch hard, but I really think that is just a confident townie. He could be scum trying to lynch me knowing that I am not aligned with him at all costs, but I kinda doubt it.
6. PMJ - CONTRIBUTE MORE!
7. GM DracLord - 100% Town IMHO. This is how he plays when he is town, straight up. Good contribution, and while he has made a couple of odd statements (a link between Camo and I) he is trying to contribute and for the most part is actually succeeding. Trust this guy imo, everyone! :)
8. Chaos Jackal - I really don't know. He slept and as such hasn't made too many posts, but in the posts he has made he hasn't really done much contribution. I am leaning town but he could very realistically be scum.
9. TwistedTurtwig - obvious scum lol! (I'm joking)
10. Celever - outspoken town (I'm not joking)
11. Eron - leaning scum. He tends to have pretty good activity in these games, but has only made a couple of posts today. I'm not completely sure on him, nor am I even slightly confident in this read, but I just get a kind of odd feel from his posts.
12. AlexanderTheAwesome - Has tried to contribute well and for a first game I doubt he could play this well as scum. Pretty strong town read for AtA.
13. Wailord_2 - Leaning town. He has scarce posts and little contribution, but I just don't really think he has that much to think about. He hasn't voted for me yet though, so brownie points there! (Note: I have not let lynch votes on me actually effect my reads lol)
14. One Approved - Completely torn. Seriously he could very feasibly be either faction to me.
15. Meaty - Like 85% confident town. He was not afraid to state his own opinion even when it was going against the majority, and while he hasn't made a large number of posts, I think he has actually contributed more to discussion than almost everyone else.

I'll finish up later. If I'm still alive then. This isn't just to extend the day length, it's because I legitimately have to do things. Sorry :(
 
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tl;dr version

Town, town, town, not sure, town, not sure, SF is scum, town, town
 
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I'm not sure if Camo actually has this speech impediment thing for real or if he's just saying that as an excuse... I guess that extra vote/unvote would be going a bit far even for him, so I can probably believe this, and it explains his random votes somewhat. As for the inactives like PMJ, it's likely they don't want to get caught up in the day 1 mess. I'll be straight up here, the 6 post real is my main reason for my current activity, which still isn't great. It's a reasonable rule but there isn't much to say besides vote/don't vote Celever. The 6 post rule makes the inactives really questionable, but I guess they'll probably just get modkilled... I doubt a scum would let that happen, and I know PMJ is still very active as scum so I don't think he's suspicious. Guess we'll find out when he does or doesn't post today. Anyway, I don't think the possiblity of a 5 vote requirement for Camo clears his name. Celever has quite literally given up, but I don't want to end the day quite yet as day 1 is an opportunity for free information. My vote still stands.
 
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Oh, I just realized my post should say "rule" instead of "real," my bad.
 
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TwistedTurtwig said:
tl;dr version

Town, town, town, not sure, town, not sure, SF is scum, town, town

Every time I swear //brick'd
I wasn't exactly "very" active during RVS, and I've kept my vote on you for a pretty valid reason. I think PMJ may well have been silenced, or he's just waiting and making reads.
 
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I actually don't really think Celever would bother typing all that if he wasn't town and gave up.

##Unvote: Celever
##Vote: Scorched Feathers

Last game we were right and your scummy behaviour was because you were scum.
 
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Ice Espeon said:
If speech impediments are a thing in this game (e.g. Camo voting), then maybe someone blocked PMJ from posting today.

My imped is part of my role... It wasn't given to me.

@Celever if you don't get lynched today then who do you suggest? I think that you are the best lynch (sorry :(). However there are a couple of scummy players that are also options.
 
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Scorched Feathers said:
TwistedTurtwig said:
tl;dr version

Town, town, town, not sure, town, not sure, SF is scum, town, town

Every time I swear //brick'd
I wasn't exactly "very" active during RVS, and I've kept my vote on you for a pretty valid reason. I think PMJ may well have been silenced, or he's just waiting and making reads.

Logic for voting for Celever. If it's not a good case.....
 
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Camoclone said:
Ice Espeon said:
If speech impediments are a thing in this game (e.g. Camo voting), then maybe someone blocked PMJ from posting today.

My imped is part of my role... It wasn't given to me.

@Celever if you don't get lynched today then who do you suggest? I think that you are the best lynch (sorry :(). However there are a couple of scummy players that are also options.

I'd have to say either SF or Blui. You already know what I think about SF from my read, but there is something totally off about Blui... Forgive me, because I am on my iPad, I will build a proper case on Blui soon... I can get on a computer in about half an hour, so please don't lynch me before then! D:
 
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Blui said:
TT should've left his ability IMO and wait for a 'bad lynch' to happen and somehow trick people into thinking he's dead. Now the wolves won't touch him because he's going to die anyway. Oh well.

Huh? Presumably he misread the role, but unlike rev who also made an error with the role, he hasn't told us about it. Plus, why would TT want to trick the town? It sounds like a strange and fairly dumb idea... And even though I don't think it is necessarily scummy, I do think it is a possible plan without the town's best interest in mind...

Blui said:
AlexanderTheAwesome said:
Camo is acting pretty weird. Youre voting and unvoting just for other people voting for you or for you just beig random way more than the other players are.

##VOTE: Camoclone

Wailord_2 said:
At this point, I don't think there are any valid lynches, and there is no one I find acting particularly suspicious. I'm not a big fan of the whole RVS thing and probably won't vote until someone has a real reasoning for their lynch.

Does anyone else find it kind of odd that TT's role only consists of him dying? I feel like there might be something more to his role than that.

Camo does that. Really. Every game I've been in Camo just votes and unvotes on day 1.

@Celever revealing this early was a horrible idea.

I don't think I'll vote today, it seems a little early.

His first response is really just echoing what the rest of us said before... Makes it look like contribution when it really isn't.

He then said "Celever revealing this early was a horrible idea". Well, where the hell were you when I was asking whether I should reveal or not? The fact that he just said "it was a bad idea" is also just stating the obvious, and is just a bit strange... It kinda rubs me up the wrong way. It's like when people say "well that night kill was bad for us!" It contributes nothing but gives the impression of contribution. WHY was it a bad idea, and what can we do now that I have claimed to try and salvage the situation? These are the sorts of things you should be posting if you want to comment on a situation like this...

Then he said "I don't think I'll vote today." Why the hell would you NOT vote? The main reason I can think of to not vote is so that it doesn't look like you totally committed to a lynch if the lynch ends up incorrect and someone just goes back to look through the vote counts to see who targeted me. This is an especially interesting theory in this instance because if he really is scum he would know that I am in fact not and wouldn't want to be associated with me. Blui, why did you not want to vote today?

Blui said:
Celever said:
Basically my role is shit so lynch me if you want and I'l just watch from the death chat, but defensiveness etc. isn't a good way to figure out if I'm scum or not. I'm stressed out irl a LOT and it tends to translate into my posts. It's whatever though. Once the site I'm on realizes I'm a scummy f*ck no matter what faction I'm on I can actually be quite good at this game! Not always (see Reign of Terror) but sometimes! :p

As this is probably going to be my last post before you kill any chance of life on another planet EVER visiting Earth again (smh ruining Dr. Who) I would just like to remind everyone that a lot of people haven't posted. I thonk about w third of the game?

People have lives outside of Beach.It's only been a day. But this post bothers me. The problem is that one game you will actually be scum. When that day happens we have a big problem.

##VOTE: Celever

Scummy players get lynched.

It had only been a day, but I was already almost lynched in that time span. Anyway, the post isn't even directly related to the game. You may say that one game I will be scum and will get through free, but my play style does change as scum. I usually get even scummier! (yeah, it's possible lol) so this is just a bit of an FYI. However... YOU JUST VOTED! Why would you suddenly vote for me after saying "I don't want to vote today". It was only a couple of posts apart, too... I mean, it was like 20 posts but in the grand scheme of things it's not that much. This is now a clear contradiction, and I really feel like this is you trying to blend in with the rest and not brought into the lime light. My main problem is that it is just such a contradiction with your ethos for the day and it was wasted on a basic bandwagon vote...

Blui said:
Camoclone said:
I have a speech imped where I must vote on at least 5 people per day. I still feel that Celever is the best lynch.

@Celever what are your reads right now?

##UNVOTE: CELEVER
##VOTE: GRANTM1999

Camoclone said:
##UNVOTE: GRANTM1999
##VOTE: CELEVER

These were a minute apart Camo. Seriously. Just stop with all these meaningless posts.

Yeah... Read the thread. That is all. At least you apologised for this misreading!

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I really don't feel like I made this case very well, but this is all of his posts today (minus the short apology) and as you can see they are all pretty... well, non-contributory but they really stick in your mind. He's also not really expressed any opinions besides his lynch vote on me, which to me was just a mafia member trying to fit in. Camo is apparently on-board with this possible lynch, so if you want to make a better case be my guest! :)
 
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Drohn said:
I actually don't really think Celever would bother typing all that if he wasn't town and gave up.

##Unvote: Celever
##Vote: Scorched Feathers

Last game we were right and your scummy behaviour was because you were scum.

I kinda agree with this but I'm not willing to vote SF yet because as of right now, SF is a scum read of a current suspect. Camo seems towny. Sorry but I'm really split on the Celever lynch.

##UNVOTE: CAMOCLONE
 
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Celever said:
1. Camoclone - Pretty towny. My vote makes legitimate sense given my reaction; I've already stated that I am scummy every game, but I got given an awful role on top of that. So far he's just contributes, and his claim obviously makes sense.
2. Ice Espeon - Hasn't really contributed. So far he has literally just answered questions, none of which directed at him. This could be either town or scum, but leaning town
3. Mr.Muffin - Hasn't said anything, despite putting his activity as a 3.5. If you said a high(ish) number but are yet to post I am going to label you as CONTRIBUTE MORE!
4. Scorched Feathers - Was very active during RVS, but activity dropped harshly thereafter. Furthermore, his only serious vote was a serious bandwagon against me with a joke as reasoning. A little worse than regular SF, so I'm going slight scum on this.
5. Keeper of Night - Pretty town. He has pushed my lynch hard, but I really think that is just a confident townie. He could be scum trying to lynch me knowing that I am not aligned with him at all costs, but I kinda doubt it.
6. PMJ - CONTRIBUTE MORE!
7. GM DracLord - 100% Town IMHO. This is how he plays when he is town, straight up. Good contribution, and while he has made a couple of odd statements (a link between Camo and I) he is trying to contribute and for the most part is actually succeeding. Trust this guy imo, everyone! :)
8. Chaos Jackal - I really don't know. He slept and as such hasn't made too many posts, but in the posts he has made he hasn't really done much contribution. I am leaning town but he could very realistically be scum.
9. TwistedTurtwig - obvious scum lol! (I'm joking)
10. Celever - outspoken town (I'm not joking)
11. Eron - leaning scum. He tends to have pretty good activity in these games, but has only made a couple of posts today. I'm not completely sure on him, nor am I even slightly confident in this read, but I just get a kind of odd feel from his posts.
12. AlexanderTheAwesome - Has tried to contribute well and for a first game I doubt he could play this well as scum. Pretty strong town read for AtA.
13. Wailord_2 - Leaning town. He has scarce posts and little contribution, but I just don't really think he has that much to think about. He hasn't voted for me yet though, so brownie points there! (Note: I have not let lynch votes on me actually effect my reads lol)
14. One Approved - Completely torn. Seriously he could very feasibly be either faction to me.
15. Meaty - Like 85% confident town. He was not afraid to state his own opinion even when it was going against the majority, and while he hasn't made a large number of posts, I think he has actually contributed more to discussion than almost everyone else.

I'll finish up later. If I'm still alive then. This isn't just to extend the day length, it's because I legitimately have to do things. Sorry :(

You do relise that you've marked all but 1 player scum?
And you haven't metioned me... Since I've been not voted.
And in case anyone noticed, MTC hasn't posted either. And if Luispipe is playing, he hasn't talked either. Could there be a link with PMJ? Maybe scum can't chat on the first day?? That would clear a lot of questions! If so, we should vote for someone who hasn't posted.

And 4 meaty:
##unvote meaty
 
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I am still reading 10 pages of posts... wow
 
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Cisera, theguy and I think someone else ain't posted. And 5 is the norm amount of WWs right?
 
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Celever said:
11. Eron - leaning scum. He tends to have pretty good activity in these games, but has only made a couple of posts today. I'm not completely sure on him, nor am I even slightly confident in this read, but I just get a kind of odd feel from his posts.

I know I have pretty good activity in these games, but not on day 1, I don't know what to do on day 1/2, maybe at day 3 we will have some useful info.
I'm away from my house all saturday and sunday, I play TCG and Heroclix and when I get to my house it's late and I can't post at school. The fact I post a little on D1 doesn't make me more scum (or does it?).

Off-topic part of the post:
I didn't read completely all pages, 10 pages.... I just checked votes.
Is there something important that happened since pages 9 until this?
 
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@eron
Mainly cel ever vs camo

Okay , I've completed my list.
I have deducted that PMJ luispipe. Reinforce. MtC. The guy. muffin.
Have not posted. Maybe they are all scum. That's 6 by the way. I will laugh if I'm right and become killed in the next day :p
 
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bbninjas said:
You do relise that you've marked all but 1 player scum?
And you haven't metioned me... Since I've been not voted.
And in case anyone noticed, MTC hasn't posted either. And if Luispipe is playing, he hasn't talked either. Could there be a link with PMJ? Maybe scum can't chat on the first day?? That would clear a lot of questions! If so, we should vote for someone who hasn't posted.

I marked all but one player town because there aren't many people you can have as suspects D1... I just varying levels of towniness lol!

I highly doubt your theory is correct though, because it takes away any possibility of scumhunting or... well fun. And Teal is a very experienced player and host. I'm like completely certain that he wouldn't put something so broken in.

Eron said:
Celever said:
11. Eron - leaning scum. He tends to have pretty good activity in these games, but has only made a couple of posts today. I'm not completely sure on him, nor am I even slightly confident in this read, but I just get a kind of odd feel from his posts.

I know I have pretty good activity in these games, but not on day 1, I don't know what to do on day 1/2, maybe at day 3 we will have some useful info.
I'm away from my house all saturday and sunday, I play TCG and Heroclix and when I get to my house it's late and I can't post at school. The fact I post a little on D1 doesn't make me more scum (or does it?).

Off-topic part of the post:
I didn't read completely all pages, 10 pages.... I just checked votes.
Is there something important that happened since pages 9 until this?

How many posts per page do you have?

bbninjas why do you think there will be 5 or 6 scum members?
 
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Celever said:
bbninjas said:
You do relise that you've marked all but 1 player scum?
And you haven't metioned me... Since I've been not voted.
And in case anyone noticed, MTC hasn't posted either. And if Luispipe is playing, he hasn't talked either. Could there be a link with PMJ? Maybe scum can't chat on the first day?? That would clear a lot of questions! If so, we should vote for someone who hasn't posted.

I marked all but one player town because there aren't many people you can have as suspects D1... I just varying levels of towniness lol!

I highly doubt your theory is correct though, because it takes away any possibility of scumhunting or... well fun. And Teal is a very experienced player and host. I'm like completely certain that he wouldn't put something so broken in.

Eron said:
I know I have pretty good activity in these games, but not on day 1, I don't know what to do on day 1/2, maybe at day 3 we will have some useful info.
I'm away from my house all saturday and sunday, I play TCG and Heroclix and when I get to my house it's late and I can't post at school. The fact I post a little on D1 doesn't make me more scum (or does it?).

Off-topic part of the post:
I didn't read completely all pages, 10 pages.... I just checked votes.
Is there something important that happened since pages 9 until this?

How many posts per page do you have?

bbninjas why do you think there will be 5 or 6 scum members?

I wouldn't thonk it would be broken if it is ONLY on the first day. I'm new so I don't know norm ww members, but I think 5 would be normal. Anyways Teal may have double bluffed xD. I did it strange that PMJ, luis, MTC have not posted yet but are very active in other threads.

##VOTE machamp the champion
 
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