RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT
Ladies and gents, today we are accusing
TheGuy under the charges of murder and wolfiness!
Note that this is going through all slightly meaningful posts that he has made.
TheGuy said:
Teal is a huge suspect IMO. His wording about what he knew about quick topics seemed like more than simple speculation and thus is could be logically concluded that he is part of a QT which is generally Anti-Town. Certainly there's a higher percentage that he's Anti-Town than a random person which is enough reason to lynch on Day 1.
This was Day 1, and sorta coming out of RVS. Now, TheGuy has done a classically scummy thing here, which is fuelling the wagon without actually placing a vote on there himself. This is especially scummy on Day 1, where votes are p much dispensable. When I was reading through Day 1 to try and find a lead early on, this is what got my alarm bells ringing, so I decided to look into TheGuy further, and I found quite a bit here which would be otherwise easily lost, as he hasn't made a large amount of posts.
TheGuy said:
Teal said:
##UNVOTE: AlexanderTheAwesome
##VOTE: Machamp the Champion
I'm pretty sure town MTC would know better than to go after me.
OMGUS. This has pushed me over the edge.
##UNVOTE: PMJ
##VOTE: Teal
He did later vote for Teal, but for OMGUS? D1 OMGUS doesn't really count. This was still p much RVS, remember.
TheGuy said:
Since my last post I've been getting a serious vibe from Drac's posts that he knew something more than we did - this revelation has come at no surprise.
##UNVOTE: Teal
##VOTE: GM Draclord
Oh yup, yup guys! I knew it all along!
Note: When TheGuy finally decided to lynch Drac, he already had
8 votes on him. Just saying "OK guys, this lynch seems good, I'll go with it" is fine, but saying "I knew it all along but decided not to say anything!" is not. I'm not sure whether I think TheGuy is indie or wolf as of yet (though I'm confident that he's not town), but this is the main thing that's telling me he's indie.
TheGuy said:
I'm going to come to the defense of Keeper. People shouldn't be posting just for the sake of reaching some kind of posting minimum. Posting 92 times in one day without any substance to give in 50 of them isn't great for the town. As long as people are consistently posting when they have something important to say, then they're posting enough. It's just as scummy to not post at all as it is to post unnecessarily many many times in my opinion. Keeper will be doing what I'm usually doing (expect for today because of this ridiculous 10 post minimum), reading and keeping up with the thread but not feeling the need to post about every single subject (many times multiple times) reiterating the same points that have already been brought up by that person already and others.
He's actually defending himself here, not Keeper. Note that he says that what Keeper is doing is a good strategy, and it's "doing what I'm usually doing", which in turn means that TheGuy is performing a good strategy. Subtle
TheGuy said:
xDoggerx... your response?
Seems like a slip to me. ##VOTE: Machamp the Champion
This is pressure, right? Well, no. If you guys can remember the Dogger incident well, you will know that Dogger "slipped", but the original case-maker, Teal, decided to put pressure on the other person "involved" in said slip, MtC. TheGuy was second to bandwagon on this, but he voted for MtC instead of Dogger. This is because he could see some kind of bandwagon forming from the case (it was a good case) and wanted to back the winning horse.
While it is true that soon afterwards, a couple more people joined the lynch (bbninjas, KoN, OAP) these people provided further insight in their posts, and it wasn't just a wagon. TheGuy's was no more than what I quoted, and that rubs me up the wrong way.
TheGuy said:
I have never read or watched Harry Potter so if someone claims a character I actually know (Harry, Ron, Hermione, Dumbeldore) then it's probably in the game because I don't think I know any others.
The only thing saving Dogger right now is his claim because his logic hasn't been sound about anything. I'd certainly advise against voting for Keeper at all unless Dogger can provide some good reasons for why we should. I'm still worried about dogger though. He could have easily claimed Hermione, anticipating Hermione to be an important role and if he's going to be lynched anyways - he may as well reveal to his fellow scum members the identity of an important character. And from what I've seen there's no way dogger's played 100+ WW games.
##UNVOTE: Machamp the Champion
Just wanted to point out that he protected KoN hard here. He also echoed what others had said at the time, which is exactly what he said he DOESN'T like doing in the earlier quote in which he also protected KoN. I know it's a small thing, but it's worth noting.
TheGuy said:
bbninjas said:
Honestly, I feel like lynching either Machamp the Champion or Lenny, or another scummy but highly experienced player, particularly if we can bring them back if we're wrong, which is what Dogger seems to be implying.
The problem with an MTC lynch is that the evidence against MTC was tied to Dogger - I don't really think he was scummy before dogger's supposed slip. At this point I would definitely lean towards a Lenny or Dogger lynch. Lenny had been acting very strange when accused and dogger is by no means cleared in my book.
What? "Don't lynch MTC he is tied to Dogger and Dogger is good but we should lynch Dogger because Dogger is in no way cleared!" What was he even getting at here? Spreading confusion?
TheGuy said:
Camoclone said:
Lenny is a silly candidate right now in my opinion and everyone attacking him and Grant is being hypocritical.
Why not? I think that Lenny over reacted to a silly argument against him. I'm suspicious of grant for putting forth a silly argument that didn't have any evidence to back it up but I'm suspicious of Lenny because of his reaction to it. It's pretty simple.
"I'm not connected to anyone so if I die you have nothing to go off of in terms of wolf partners!" This was a two-sided argument, and saying that both sides of scum is for the most part flawed. It can be genius in certain situations, but this wasn't one of them, so it was once again TheGuy pretending to be contributing.
TheGuy said:
Camoclone said:
So by asking the question that in theory if you were actually town then it would not really benefit you and you helped the wolves more than you helped town.
I'm thinking Celever didn't even realize he was role fishing - He may have asked a dumb question that helped the scum team but that doesn't make him scum. It seems as though quite a few players seem to be playing differently this game which doesn't necessarily help us (Camoclone, Lenny, Celever).
Echoing others.
TheGuy said:
Luispipe8 said:
Vote Count:
Teal: 1
12 votes needed to reach majority.
(adding format later)
So, someone or something has already voted for Teal.
Pointing out the obvious.
TheGuy said:
Camoclone said:
The people he targeted... They all have been mentioned somewhere and have been "involved" (for lack of a better word) in some way. I don't like the typo. I don't like the early role claim. I don't like his current tone.
##VOTE: SQUIRTLE SQUAD
The early role reveal works both ways. Part of me thinks he can't be scum because he had his role out so quickly. (I can easily see a new player easily claim like that). However, part of me thinks he's more suspicious because that claim was definitely unwarranted and he may have just wanted to post his newly written fake claim.
Echoing
TheGuy said:
That's really poor play, rev. Well, we get our second easy lynch of the game - I'll take those any day.
##UNVOTE: Squirtle Squad
##VOTE: rev3rsor
It definitely feels like he sorta talking TO rev here, don't you think? Obviously if TheGuy were an indie, he would just use the QT, or so you'd think, but IDK. It still seems sorta wolfy.
TheGuy said:
grantm1999 said:
SS claimed Kreacher right? That seemed believable yesterday...
I want Lenny. We don't have anything to help us believe him as town.
##VOTE: LENNY
This post is reason enough for me to vote for you. This Lenny thing is over.
##VOTE: grant1999
I'm confused about this. "This Lenny thing is over." When? I don't remember Lenny being cleaned? I don't like how condescending and damning he was when he said that, especially because he was umming and ahhing just one day before this (we're at the start of Day 4 now).
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And that's it. He hasn't made many posts, and the vast majority of those which he has made (I didn't quote all of them, and the ones I didn't post were p much fluff) were echoing or stating the obvious, which is odd for TheGuy, since I think he is usually quite analytical of various situations. He has a clear bond with KoN from this, so if TheGuy does flip indie like I think he might, I want to look into KoN the next day, even if that means that there were 5 indies from the start. If TheGuy flips wolf, I want to look into KoN, because he is probably a wolf too. If TheGuy flips town... he won't.
OK, so I made this post bearing the fact that we have very few actual leads and reads in this game to go off of, but Vom just posted about grant. Bear in mind that there ARE a large amount of reasons as to why grant could possibly have been immune to your spell, Vom, so I wouldn't rush to any conclusions.
I'm not expecting grant to flip wolf (I have a somewhat solid town read on him rn) so I'm hoping he can come up with a good explanation. If he fails to do so... I'll lynch him, I guess. But if that happens, I want to look into TheGuy tomorrow, because he is definitely the scummiest player besides grant rn.
