The words in quotations are Celever, the words in bold are bbninjas, and the words in italics are mine.
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"Furthermore, Hagrid has never used Silencio in his life, and it's not in-character for him to have it at all. My character has never used a spell in her life, but I was given Flagrate, a very clever spell for Mafalda to have because the whole point of her is writing. What connection does Hagrid have to Silencio, or silencing people as an act? Nothing!"
In fact, it's the Death Eaters that used Silencio.
Nice try, throwing out facts that are completely baseless. There are four known uses of Silencio in HP canon. One of them is for dealing with a magical creature, another was in a Charms class, one was by Hermoine while fighting Death Eaters, and another was by Voldemort. Now tell me again how Silencio is a Death Eater-exclusive spell.
Source: http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Silencing_Charm
Besides, half of the players in this game have spells that their characters aren't known for. Hagrid isn't known for any spells at all, since he had magic banned for him, but everyone needed to have a spell.
Good to know all of this.
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"When I was typing out that paragraph, I actually remembered something. The town already has a silencer! We haven't had one flip yet, but in the mason chat, Teal posted this ages ago:
A Mute Potion? Hmm... who could that be? Well, everyone has claimed besides Fred Weasley. A Mute Potion? Yeah, that sounds like the sort of thing which one of the Weasley twins would use: it sounds like a prank, and a fun little item to use for a prank as well, which is what the Weasley twins are all about. The Mute Potion isn't actually real, looking at the wiki, but I would be willing to bet that Wailord will claim said action when he appears some time today. Why would Teal lie, and why would a Death Eater have something as fun sounding as a Mute Potion? It just doesn't make sense!"
This.
More baseless conjecture. Wailord just confirmed that there is no such thing as a Mute Potion. You could have easily made up that quote by Teal, given the fact that he's now dead and you two are the only ones left in the quicktopic. The lies just stack up more and more...
I believe I just agreed to the post of Celever's, while gathering quite a bit more hundreds of words of a case. I think I have the right to 'give some basic conjecture'.
I spent a bit of time thinking about this, and vaguely remembered someone who could give out potions. Shining Goodra aka Horace Slughorn. N2. Probably why no one else has received potions.
Well... you've already made your mind up that both of us are untrustworthy, but meh. This is the c/p once again of Teal's post:
"You were sneakely given a Mute Potion during breakfast, and is finally making effect. You can no longer post in the Game Thread or in any of the Quicktopics you're part of. The potion's effect will fade at the end of the day."
I was muted for the most part of yesterday. <___>
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Keeper of Night said:
...Who the heck is Mafalda?
##VOTE: Celever
Mafalda is a member of the Wizengamot's Court. And if you did research, she did have a notable role. But you didn't research, and you are bandwagoning. Which you do not do unless you are scum.
Weird... I thought that I was the scum here! How easily you jump back and forth.
That's my flaw.
TwistedTurtwig said:
Consider it done. It'll save you the need to founder about.
Good game, Barty!
Please explain to me why Barty is in the Wizengamot Court?
You answered this one yourself. Only you substituted his real safe claim for my role.
Did I? Please enlighten me.
bbninjas said:
Another thing I thought of...
Barty Jnr has had the ability to change his appearance. I can imagine Luis giving at least Hagrid as a safe claim, if not a full safe role, as a reference to this.
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Here is my tl;dr of TT's and Celever's cases:
TT (saying Celever is scum):
- Mafalda is a weird name-claim, and (apparently) the least likely town claim of every name claim provided.
- That's it.
It's a whole lot more complicated that now, as I'm sure you're already aware.
Indeed I am, and glad to see it.
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Celever (saying TT is scum):
- The Hagrid name-claim was confirmed by Scum MtC.
- Silencing spells are scummy (particularly if the town silence has been used).
- TT has not been confirmed by anything except for a nameclaim. Celever has been confirmed in-QT, Brave, bb and Wailord are all claimed by names and Keeper's ability, while Keeper is claimed from name and being hugely helpful to the town.
- Because MtC couldn't have possibly been trying to use my role to gain town cred. That would never have happened.
- Using an ability to back up a claim is poor reasoning.
- Oh, so because Celever posted his role in a quicktopic but I posted mine in the game thread, his is automatically more believable? If anything, it seems to be the exact opposite.
This is my recount of Celever's 'attack'. Not my points.
-Celever's (which was originally mine before he stole it >.>) point on MtC is that he could be trying to confirm your safe-claim name 'Hagrid', assuming you are scum.
-I would say using a nameclaim is just as poor reasoning.
-IDK... I think more of the point is that Celever posted his role about 7 Nights ago...
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Now, what, besides a nameclaim, has reliably confirmed TT? Nothing. There is more things that confirms Celever than TT (such as being in the QT, and the Aura Scan, for a start).
You know who else was in the QT? Dolores Umbridge, an independent. Who's to say that there's not a Death Eater in there as well?
So...? This makes it slightly more unlikely: a 2:3 (antitown:town) ratio is a bit high, IMO. And what reliably soft-cleared you besides nameclaim?
Next, TT has been going along is normal scum play. Active in the start and the end of the game, but really quiet in the Middle stages.
Yeah, that's why I was not posting at all when trying to lynch MtC after I was blocked by the Dark Mark in the middle stages of the game.
I think I'm more refering to before and after that... you were very quiet between D3-D4 and D6-D8
TT OMGUS'd Celever. Celever made a case and voted against TT, and then TT turned back and attacked Celever. OMGUS.
You really don't know what OMGUS means, do you? It means when you vote for someone specifically because they voted for you. I made my case on Celever and voted for him because I know for a fact that he's scum through my ability. He could have voted for anyone else and I still would have voted for him
Your case was not as detailed, and, IMO, believable compared to Celever's. Leading it to be a bit OMGUSy, IMO.
TT IGNORED ME. *GRUMBLEFOOT STOMP*
I specifically asked for the actions he performed and who on. He ignored this, and has failed to answer it. And I'm still waiting...
Human error happens. It can be inconvenient, like what happened with me missing your post, but it can still happen.
Okay
Twisted, Keeper, point out exactly what else makes Celever scum. His role is terribly useless for a scum (like, who would listen to his letters, and what makes his spell useful for the scum), and since Celever role claimed N3, he would have no idea if there was a role fisher in the house. Theoretically, if his is scum, he would need to claim as much of his real role, in case he is seer'd.
You're right, that's a terrible role for scum. Which is why it's nothing like his real role. There's been two common themes among the claims of the scum so far: house elves and sending letters. Once the scum recruited MtC, they knew they could abuse his letter-sending ability for their own benefit, which is why Camoclone claimed Dobby with the ability to intercept letters. Besides, Celever has no way to confirm his role because both his ability and spell can't be used until after his death. How convenient!
Great to see some decent points coming from your end. Nothing much to say here, as they are all valid, although it should be noted that Celever role claimed during N2, on orders of Teal, along with the rest of us, which led to the outing of Rev. This roleclaim was before the reveal of any letter abilities. And IIRC, Camo claimed Dobby before MtC was scummified.
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There'll be more to come from me, but this is all for now.
The action was correct, it was just the name what was wrong.
