Finished Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - The Order of the Phoenix is the Winner!

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

I actually have a lead on Drac, but I need to follow it for a few nights to get decent specifics. Definitely seems like an OMGUS vote from Drac though.

Maybe you could explain... or is this another RVS post...

Cant wait explain yet. I have a hunch

Yippee... we've got too people claiming leads Day 1. *sigh*

@Ninjas: The only way to avoid a lynch is by voting for a no lynch. If a player has 1 vote and no one else does, he gets lynched.

It looks like my standard play is gather 5 votes Day 1 and then try and get rid of them. Joy.

-snip-

bbninjas, it seems like you're trying to imitate Camo here being very indecisive with your lynch votes and posting continuously. If you want my advice, please stop. You've yet to give any opaque pressure to anyone, and now that you have failed to do this you can't really pressurise anyone today as they know you don't actually have any leads from the night etc..

He is literally just randomly voting. I on the other hand actually pressure (as you stated). However I have no problem with RVS'ing the crap out of things at this point in the game. It makes things happen with or without pressure.

I am not literally just RVSing. I am asking somewhat legit questions and going against what I don't like. It can't be RVS if I have the people I chose wasn't random.

Very anti-town play right there. Trying to prevent a townie from pressuring people and starting day 1 discussion. Very suspicious, in my opinion.

##UNROFL: rev3rsor
##RELEASE: Celever

Celever and BBninjas pointed out that he wasn't actually pressuring people (well... aside from you). It seems like you somehow missed that . However on the other hand I agree. Celever stopping discussion does not look good for him.


So right now we have this:

• A player who already claimed town (and a main characterish thing in the books)
• A player trying to prevent discussion
• A player who did not read fully before posting

##VOTE: CELEVER

Oh, so whatsisname is a main characterish thing? Okay then... I have absolutely no idea who I am. I'm going to claim I'm town as well. Duh. I'm not going to claim scum ever. *checks OP* Oh, there's independents. That changes things a bit.

I don't know about Celever. I'm pretty sure that was an honest thing he wanted me to improve on and decided to tell me. As I've said already, I can't imagine Celever saying stuff like that to prevent conversation if he's an experienced player. That would be stupid.

I don't see any harm in Hagrid claiming.

Would you not find it weird if the first thing I did D1 was claim town right off the bat? Not to mention how if he really is town then it gives scum information.

You know... in the small WW games I host for my friends, claiming 'Town' clears you in 75% of the player's eyes. I plan to change that in the game my friend is hosting >

 

[Omega Soul]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

seriously, luis modkill me if i'm lying.

That's not really how it works.

i'm just annoyed people are saying i'm lying about not having a role. also, my role is decently powerful, so i'm not going to reveal it quite yet.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

That's not really how it works.

i'm just annoyed people are saying i'm lying about not having a role. also, my role is decently powerful, so i'm not going to reveal it quite yet.

Thanks for literally becoming the next person night killed if you are not scum.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

OK, well I'm not gong to react to this pressure properly because every time I do react I get lynched!

What I will say, though, is that I was honestly just trying to help bbninjas there. I guess I didn't do it as well as I could have done, but it was honestly my motive for posting that, as he recognised. I didn't want him to go off on long tangents against different players thinking that he was pressuring them when he wasn't, but from he replies it looks like that wasn't what he was trying to do anyway! >_>

No leads yet, it's early Day 1.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

That's not really how it works.

i'm just annoyed people are saying i'm lying about not having a role. also, my role is decently powerful, so i'm not going to reveal it quite yet.

The only problem is that you publicised it, which makes it seem like you might be a wolf trying to gain town cred. You should have handled it exclusively in PM.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

-snip-

He is literally just randomly voting. I on the other hand actually pressure (as you stated). However I have no problem with RVS'ing the crap out of things at this point in the game. It makes things happen with or without pressure.

I am not literally just RVSing. I am asking somewhat legit questions and going against what I don't like. It can't be RVS if I have the people I chose wasn't random.

Alright fine. I'll call it RQS if you like.

Celever and BBninjas pointed out that he wasn't actually pressuring people (well... aside from you). It seems like you somehow missed that . However on the other hand I agree. Celever stopping discussion does not look good for him.


So right now we have this:

• A player who already claimed town (and a main characterish thing in the books)
• A player trying to prevent discussion
• A player who did not read fully before posting

##VOTE: CELEVER

Oh, so whatsisname is a main characterish thing? Okay then... I have absolutely no idea who I am. I'm going to claim I'm town as well. Duh. I'm not going to claim scum ever. *checks OP* Oh, there's independents. That changes things a bit.

But you don't randomly claim town and claim your flavor. Flavor generally corresponds to role.

Bolded... Because I'm lazy.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

OK, well I'm not gong to react to this pressure properly because every time I do react I get lynched!

What I will say, though, is that I was honestly just trying to help bbninjas there. I guess I didn't do it as well as I could have done, but it was honestly my motive for posting that, as he recognised. I didn't want him to go off on long tangents against different players thinking that he was pressuring them when he wasn't, but from he replies it looks like that wasn't what he was trying to do anyway! >_>

No leads yet, it's early Day 1.

There are always leads. They might be insanely small but there are always leads.

 

[Lenny]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Bbninjas is all over the place and unfortunately I'm not getting a good read because he plays this way a lot. I've seen him as town (I think?) and scum so this is pretty standard. Still, I'm getting weird vibes from him. Just gut feelings, don't have much to back it up.

I'm not sure where I stand on TT claiming town. There's a few scenarios. 1) He's actually town and was excited and slipped up, 2) he's actually town and has a way to protect himself or gain some sort of advantage if he's targetted or simply known, 3) he's scum that's trying to gain the trust of the town and/or trying to get the real Hagrid to counter claim and then kill him for whatever reason. I don't think I missed any potential scenarios. Looking at these three possibilities, it seems unlikely he's scum unless there's such a great advantage to outting the real Hagrid. We just don't know enough, really. For now I'm gonna skeptically say TT is town but that opinion is subject to change as the game continues.

As for everything else, Day 1 is the usual clusterfart. I'm not set on anyone enough to vote for them.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

OK, well I'm not gong to react to this pressure properly because every time I do react I get lynched!

What I will say, though, is that I was honestly just trying to help bbninjas there. I guess I didn't do it as well as I could have done, but it was honestly my motive for posting that, as he recognised. I didn't want him to go off on long tangents against different players thinking that he was pressuring them when he wasn't, but from he replies it looks like that wasn't what he was trying to do anyway! >_>

No leads yet, it's early Day 1.

There are always leads. They might be insanely small but there are always leads.

I meant no solid leads... If you want the main lead I've found so far:

##Luis did Omega Soul really not get their role? If he's lying then that's quite weird. Also not sure why he wouldn't raise this via a PM rather than through the thread...

Not fair for him to answer this question, it would pretty much confirm Omega as non-wolf...

Why would it confirm Omega Soul as a non-wolf? Surely wolves could also have their roles given to them late? This makes me think that Teal is in fact a wolf and he knows that all wolves received their roles on time and he slipped up a little bit there.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Not fair for him to answer this question, it would pretty much confirm Omega as non-wolf...

Why would it confirm Omega Soul as a non-wolf? Surely wolves could also have their roles given to them late? This makes me think that Teal is in fact a wolf and he knows that all wolves received their roles on time and he slipped up a little bit there.

I'm not sure. It might have something to do with scum chat but I'm not sure. I'll think about it.

 

[GM DracLord]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

@bbninjas - I wouldnt go as far to call it a lead.. Just a feeling.

 

[Lenny]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

There are always leads. They might be insanely small but there are always leads.

I meant no solid leads... If you want the main lead I've found so far:

Not fair for him to answer this question, it would pretty much confirm Omega as non-wolf...

Why would it confirm Omega Soul as a non-wolf? Surely wolves could also have their roles given to them late? This makes me think that Teal is in fact a wolf and he knows that all wolves received their roles on time and he slipped up a little bit there.

I can't speak for Teal, but I think his train of logic might have been that a role as important as scum wouldn't be forgotten about or sent late, so that would confirm him as non-wolf (and maybe even non-independent). But that's only if we follow the train of logic that roles are sent out in order of importance. Still, I think it's something to consider.

It could be the other possibility as well, that Teal knows something a town shouldn't, but honestly, I don't think Teal is dumb enough to make a slip up like that. He's a very experienced player and in my opinion wouldn't make a slip like that. I think we're looking too hard to find something and grasping at straws.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

I am not literally just RVSing. I am asking somewhat legit questions and going against what I don't like. It can't be RVS if I have the people I chose wasn't random.

Alright fine. I'll call it RQS if you like.

Oh, so whatsisname is a main characterish thing? Okay then... I have absolutely no idea who I am. I'm going to claim I'm town as well. Duh. I'm not going to claim scum ever. *checks OP* Oh, there's independents. That changes things a bit.

But you don't randomly claim town and claim your flavor. Flavor generally corresponds to role.

Bolded... Because I'm lazy.

I'm lazy and not going to respond. Actually... RQS, I like that. Though it should be SRQS.Semi Random Questioning Stage

Bbninjas is all over the place and unfortunately I'm not getting a good read because he plays this way a lot. I've seen him as town (I think?) and scum so this is pretty standard. Still, I'm getting weird vibes from him. Just gut feelings, don't have much to back it up.

I'm not sure where I stand on TT claiming town. There's a few scenarios. 1) He's actually town and was excited and slipped up, 2) he's actually town and has a way to protect himself or gain some sort of advantage if he's targetted or simply known, 3) he's scum that's trying to gain the trust of the town and/or trying to get the real Hagrid to counter claim and then kill him for whatever reason. I don't think I missed any potential scenarios. Looking at these three possibilities, it seems unlikely he's scum unless there's such a great advantage to outting the real Hagrid. We just don't know enough, really. For now I'm gonna skeptically say TT is town but that opinion is subject to change as the game continues.

As for everything else, Day 1 is the usual clusterfart. I'm not set on anyone enough to vote for them.

Why does everyone think I'm RVSing??? I'm not. Yes, you've seen me as town and played with me as scum. Anyway... expect weird vibes from me. That's normal.

 

[Camoclone]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

I meant no solid leads... If you want the main lead I've found so far:


Why would it confirm Omega Soul as a non-wolf? Surely wolves could also have their roles given to them late? This makes me think that Teal is in fact a wolf and he knows that all wolves received their roles on time and he slipped up a little bit there.

I can't speak for Teal, but I think his train of logic might have been that a role as important as scum wouldn't be forgotten about or sent late, so that would confirm him as non-wolf (and maybe even non-independent). But that's only if we follow the train of logic that roles are sent out in order of importance. Still, I think it's something to consider.

It could be the other possibility as well, that Teal knows something a town shouldn't, but honestly, I don't think Teal is dumb enough to make a slip up like that. He's a very experienced player and in my opinion wouldn't make a slip like that. I think we're looking too hard to find something and grasping at straws.

I don't see why roles would be sent out in order of importance. I've never done it that way and there just doesn't seem to be a good reason to do it like that.

 

[Lenny]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

I don't see why roles would be sent out in order of importance. I've never done it that way and there just doesn't seem to be a good reason to do it like that.

Fair enough, it was the only reason I could think of. We should probably let Teal explain himself and go from there.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Well... that was an interesting message. And what is butterbeer? Is it Harry Potter related? I haven't read it :/

Butterbeer is a delicious beverage from the universe of Harry Potter.

Spoiler

I edited your post to spoiler the image, since it broke the page. Life of a mod.

Anyway, good morning. Let's vote Teal, because he told me to play.

##VOTE: CELEVER

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

##Unvote: Celever
##VOTE: Teal

Oops c/p the vote thing and forgot to change the name. Life of a lazy mod.

 

[Teal]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

I assume that the wolf QT link gets sent to every wolf at once in a separate PM like usual so it would be incredibly careless to miss sending the role and the QT link to someone. Of course if the QT link is sent in the regular role PM, this logic doesn't work.

 

[Omega Soul]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

Butterbeer is a delicious beverage from the universe of Harry Potter.

Spoiler

I edited your post to spoiler the image, since it broke the page. Life of a mod.

Anyway, good morning. Let's vote Teal, because he told me to play.

##VOTE: CELEVER

If i didn't know what timezones were, i'd think you were crazy. It's 20 to 8.

 

[bbninjas]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 1 will end on December 17th, 23:59 GMT

I meant no solid leads... If you want the main lead I've found so far:


Why would it confirm Omega Soul as a non-wolf? Surely wolves could also have their roles given to them late? This makes me think that Teal is in fact a wolf and he knows that all wolves received their roles on time and he slipped up a little bit there.

I can't speak for Teal, but I think his train of logic might have been that a role as important as scum wouldn't be forgotten about or sent late, so that would confirm him as non-wolf (and maybe even non-independent). But that's only if we follow the train of logic that roles are sent out in order of importance. Still, I think it's something to consider.

It could be the other possibility as well, that Teal knows something a town shouldn't, but honestly, I don't think Teal is dumb enough to make a slip up like that. He's a very experienced player and in my opinion wouldn't make a slip like that. I think we're looking too hard to find something and grasping at straws.

Let me remind you that Camo, the VEP, made a very big slip in WWXIII. It's not at all something that should affect leads.

Butterbeer is a delicious beverage from the universe of Harry Potter.

Spoiler

I edited your post to spoiler the image, since it broke the page. Life of a mod.

Anyway, good morning. Let's vote Teal, because he told me to play.

##VOTE: CELEVER

Have you read everything yet?

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